Who is Stronger?


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Assume its fake guys as it's not from a trusted/known provider and it has no source either, never mind a trusted one.
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
No i reckon you can't compare them (not the potency of the attacks used in the 2 occasions coz they differ greatly individually one is blunt other is more fire centered ) since Doffy is blocking and not tanking the attacks.. Blocking would just let you reckon the force of the kick that are powerful to him not its potency when it hits especially with DJ.. so its not similar to Queen saying "your kicks pack a pretty good punch" you can see queen is talking about the potency or efficiency of his kick on him.

so in doffy's case its the matter its the strength of the kicks.. efficiency would vary depending on Doffy's durability compared to Queen.. but i get the comparison generally.

and yea matchups matter as well. Zoro will generally have a pretty easy time since he's a swordsman.. unless he gets choked.
Sanji's attacks would affect more to someone like king who hasn't the durability of Queen but is an enduring combatant
Zoro's combat speed alone is so proficient Doffy will not even see him coming imo
 
not arguing about that. but he's been shown to be move at really fast speeds and his vivre card confirms that.

my point is a being faster than b by a small margin doesn't mean a is stronger than b overall.
I didn’t say that. But sanji is not weak. It is queen that is extremely durable. A durability that Killer doesn’t have. How many kicks of sanji do you think can killer tank? Sanjis CoO and speed give him the edge
 
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im not even kidding but it legit said that shinobu's fruit wouldnt make a living thing grow old and we were shown that its false.
the ancient zoan durability factor was hyped multiple times this arc. the regen is there but it's not like marco's regen like you are insinuating.

queen said that sanji's attacks arent damaging him. sanji said that his attacks aren't damaging queen. that's literally the end of the convo unless you want to do more mental gymnastics.
Im not arguing sanji and queen, i already said in an previous post that sanji without PU or RS cant defeat queen. Im talking about regan ability, not like marco but different from normal people.
I think there are times it was stated in the story or in a vivra card, i can check to make sure.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
I didn’t say that. But sanji is not weak. It is queen that is extremely durable. A durability that Killer doesn’t have. How many kicks of sanji do you think can killer tank? Sanjis CoO and speed give him the edge
killer tanked multiple attacks (indra and fulgora - which opened up the dome of onigashima btw) from big mom. pretty sure he can handle sanji's kicks just fine.

sanji's observation and speed is better but how long before he takes a sonic scythe, which negates all durability and could hurt dragon kaido? im talking strictly about pre powerup sanji btw.

you gotta be blatantly ignoring the manga calling the rooftop 5- the strongest of the rookies and the leaders of the new generation to scale pre powerup sanji over killer.
 

Zolo

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killer tanked multiple attacks (indra and fulgora - which opened up the dome of onigashima btw) from big mom. pretty sure he can handle sanji's kicks just fine.

sanji's observation and speed is better but how long before he takes a sonic scythe, which negates all durability and could hurt dragon kaido? im talking strictly about pre powerup sanji btw.

you gotta be blatantly ignoring the manga calling the rooftop 5- the strongest of the rookies and the leaders of the new generation to scale pre powerup sanji over killer.
Killer is equal to zoro and sanji
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Im talking about regan ability, not like marco but different from normal people.
I think there are times it was stated in the story or in a vivra card, i can check to make sure.
ancient zoans have pretty good regen. not denying that.

sanji's attacks aren't damaging queen and was confimed by both queen and sanji. that's the whole argument right?
 
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Law cannot hurt big mom because her durability is too much not even Gamma Knife helps him.
If this is true then it's an L for Law. Still remember the "Law can just switch *insert enemies weapon* and then kill them", that his fanboys used to say. Maybe he should start eating bread...he needs the strength/energy right about now :myman:
 
My guess is that they will be equals, mainly because of the conquerors. It would be weird to have CoC infusion be so hyped up as this ultimate technique and then have her below someone that doesnt even have conquerors as far as we know, even more so in the EoS if she learns advanced ryo and starts pulling the same shit current Luffy is doing, and of course DF awakening is another possible power

Plus the anime potrayed Oden and Gaban as equals I would say
Equal because they clashed before Oden joined Roger and reached his prime? 💀💀💀
Oden low diffs Gaban. That bum has 0 portrayal or feats
 
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