Future Events Kidd is not soloing Big Mom

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#41
their fruits arent made equal
they wont need half the same things luffy has to be effective.
Except they do.
Laws is useless on big mom he can't even room her
Kidd is just raw physical strength which doesn't do anything to her
She is also 4 vs 2 cause of her homies being able to act accordingly themselves as shown by prometheus folding law this chapter
 
#42
Honestly Kid should get some big ass haki bloom, more than Luffy with all the defeats he suffered in the NW. And he's pretty roughed up right now and is facing a huge obstacle. Isn't that how that works? Or only Luffy allowed to pull this?:endthis:
 
#43
Except they do.
Laws is useless on big mom he can't even room her
Kidd is just raw physical strength which doesn't do anything to her
She is also 4 vs 2 cause of her homies being able to act accordingly themselves as shown by prometheus folding law this chapter
law is standing fine at the end.
with df powerups ,
that could easily change
not everyone needs adv coc
or fs to be effective against the yonkos
 
#49
So in what way are these fruits so effective that they can compensate for the lack abilities like FS, AdCOA and COC attacks?
law's fruit seems capable of internal attacks to some extent (gamma knife) without the need for extensive ryou training luffy had.
what if an awakening gives him greater range

less of an idea for kid
but kid also didnt need the ryou luffy had to hurt kaido
he decided to try and crush him
in terms of raw strength his form here in punk vise has an output similar to g4 . its not a crazy jump and unlike kaido the weakness of big mom's durability might be something totally different.

 
#51
Everyone's damaged him just cause they can't do permanent damage doesn't mean they weren't affecting him.
Taking off single-digit HP doesn't mean shit. There's a reason Kaido hyped CoC attacks and why their attacks weren't working before. And this is not even mentioning how fast Kaido regenerates. So no, that shallow damage was almost about negligible and most, if not all of the other damage was regenerated because none of the other attacks left any kind of scar. Like, even after the Scabbards fight, Kaido was COMPLETELY clean by the time the SNs came on the roof to fight him. Everything regenerated.



the scabbards all did damage
the 5 sns all did damage
The thing is, if they were actually doing any kind of damage other than it being negligible, they would at least leave a minor scar. But what happened was that Kaido was completely clean after their fight. Like not even a scar after some time, it just got regenerated. Now, that regeneration might be taking away his stamina but even that won't really mean anything considering that top tiers like Kaido have the ability to fight for days at length.

Zoro and Yamato are the only ones whose damage really stayed with him for some time due to CoC. Even the Asura attack from Zoro healed up in a chapter or 2 and turned into a scar, probably depleting his strength a little. But the fact that it has already healed and turned into a scar speaks a lot about his regenerative abilities. Even the damage by Yamato's CoC imbued Thunder Bagua mostly healed after a few panels. But they were probably still doing some internal damage so that mostly took away some of Kaido's HP.

when wb went down
oda made sure to highlight the little stab wounds, the gun shots , the cannons that he recieved from fodder
all contributing factors to wearing him down. its the same thing here , the damage kaido has taken accumulates.
Kaido's durability is at a very different level when compared to WB, even more so when we're talking about sick and old WB. You don't need CoC to damage him and almost all attacks on him mostly stayed instead of regenerating like Kaido. The wound by Squard stayed for a considerable time with WB but if that had been Kaido, it would've healed almost immediately, much like the stab wounds from the Scabbards.
 
#53
Now Kid fans are going overboard. This is 50/50 with Law. Impressive feat that puts him over Zoro, but he's still not Top Tier/Yonko level.
I can promise you right now Kidd will take the main role against Big Mom. You can just tell from how things are being written. I would not be surprised if Law ends up out if this fight and fighting CP0 with Drake tbh.
 

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#54
Hopefully Oda will show that haki isn't the only thing in the series:beckmoji:
Of course, all abilities matter. Luffy needed all the haki buffs that he's received so far to tackle Kaido's Devil's Fruit abilities in the first place. I am not saying Kid and Law can't win with their DF abilities; I am questioning if whichever power boost(s) they get compensate for the abilities Luffy has + the auto advantage he has over Kaido due to the damage he's already sustained.

Kid and Law are in an opposite situation to Luffy. The enemy they're fighting is not only equal to Kaido, but she's also relatively fresh. Meanwhile, the duo is already in a fucked up condition. To say the least, their power ups must enable them cover for the disadvantage they're in rn and still more or less replicate equivalent feats of everyone that Kaido's fought so far+current Luffy. That's some dream-like scenario which can't be executed without massive PIS moments that are worse than Luffy's main character moments.
 
#55
I can promise you right now Kidd will take the main role against Big Mom. You can just tell from how things are being written. I would not be surprised if Law ends up out if this fight and fighting CP0 with Drake tbh.
You can't tell anything. Kid got the focus this chapter because of Hawkins. Otherwise it's all been 50/50.

I would not be surprised if Law ends up out if this fight and fighting CP0 with Drake tbh.
LMFAO. You're getting more pathetic than ZKK fanboys now.

Of course, all abilities matter. Luffy needed all the haki buffs that he's received so far to tackle Kaido's Devil's Fruit abilities in the first place. I am not saying Kid and Law can't win with their DF abilities; I am questioning if whichever power boost(s) they get compensate for the abilities Luffy has + the auto advantage he has over Kaido due to the damage he's already sustained.

Kid and Law are in an opposite situation to Luffy. The enemy they're fighting is not only equal to Kaido, but she's also relatively fresh. Meanwhile, the duo is already in a fucked up condition. To say the least, their power ups must enable them cover for the disadvantage they're in rn and still more or less replicate equivalent feats of everyone that Kaido's fought so far+current Luffy. That's some dream-like scenario which can't be executed without massive PIS moments that are worse than Luffy's main character moments.
You're really overthinking it. Law's DF is fucking disgusting. It works against anyone and everyone, at least the non-teleportation stuff.

Countershock has done equal damage to Vergo, Doffy and Big Mom. That should show you how well it scales.
 
#56
You can't tell anything. Kid got the focus this chapter because of Hawkins. Otherwise it's all been 50/50.



In the same chapter:







Look who’s lined up with who:

Just watch lol. You’re delusional if you can’t see that Kidd is being portrayed as the leader in this Big Mom fight.

“Kid” vs “Mom”
LMFAO. You're getting more pathetic than ZKK fanboys now.


Guess who’s after Robin right now....
You really think Law isn’t going to have an interaction with Drake in this raid and that he isn’t connected to SWORD in anyway? Lol call me pathetic all you want. Law has no history with Big Mom and he isn’t a conquerer like Kidd and Big Mom. You better hope he leaves the fight and gets his own plotline against CP0 or you’ll be watching him react to Kidd and Big Moms CoC clash instead lol
 
#57
Taking off single-digit HP doesn't mean shit. There's a reason Kaido hyped CoC attacks and why their attacks weren't working before. And this is not even mentioning how fast Kaido regenerates. So no, that shallow damage was almost about negligible and most, if not all of the other damage was regenerated because none of the other attacks left any kind of scar. Like, even after the Scabbards fight, Kaido was COMPLETELY clean by the time the SNs came on the roof to fight him. Everything regenerated.




The thing is, if they were actually doing any kind of damage other than it being negligible, they would at least leave a minor scar. But what happened was that Kaido was completely clean after their fight. Like not even a scar after some time, it just got regenerated. Now, that regeneration might be taking away his stamina but even that won't really mean anything considering that top tiers like Kaido have the ability to fight for days at length.

Zoro and Yamato are the only ones whose damage really stayed with him for some time due to CoC. Even the Asura attack from Zoro healed up in a chapter or 2 and turned into a scar, probably depleting his strength a little. But the fact that it has already healed and turned into a scar speaks a lot about his regenerative abilities. Even the damage by Yamato's CoC imbued Thunder Bagua mostly healed after a few panels. But they were probably still doing some internal damage so that mostly took away some of Kaido's HP.


Kaido's durability is at a very different level when compared to WB, even more so when we're talking about sick and old WB. You don't need CoC to damage him and almost all attacks on him mostly stayed instead of regenerating like Kaido. The wound by Squard stayed for a considerable time with WB but if that had been Kaido, it would've healed almost immediately, much like the stab wounds from the Scabbards.
"Taking off single-digit HP doesn't mean shit"
incredibly false
how much hp did apoo take from luffy and zoro before zoro got worried about getting worn out...


"Kaido was COMPLETELY clean by the time the SNs came on the roof to fight him. Everything regenerated."

am curious you talk of kaido having regeneration
marco has no scar
marco has better regeneration than kaido
what was the state of marco when we last saw him? he didnt look any weaker right?



how many scars did wb have from the guns , cannons in marineford?
were those single hp hits contributing factors to his death?



I want you lo took at these pages and tell me these damages just cause kaido has the endurance to keep fighting
and all of a sudden when he cant control his flame clouds we act like all of this damage is irrelevant cause you dont see an open wound on panel .
these attacks didnt need to leave scars to wear kaido down .....










"Kaido's durability is at a very different level when compared to WB, even more so when we're talking about sick and old WB. You don't need CoC to damage him and almost all attacks on him mostly stayed instead of regenerating like Kaido. The wound by Squard stayed for a considerable time with WB but if that had been Kaido, it would've healed almost immediately, much like the stab wounds from the Scabbards"
irrelevant since the attacks here did bypass his durability so they did damage him
and because they did damage him
they are contributing factors to why he is weaker . this regeneration btw which the manga never spoke of in regards to kaido doesnt mean he comes back fresh as ever. zoro got cut in the chest by apoo
I didnt see blood across his chest anymore , he must have regenerated.
 
#59



In the same chapter:







Look who’s lined up with who:

Just watch lol. You’re delusional if you can’t see that Kidd is being portrayed as the leader in this Big Mom fight.

“Kid” vs “Mom”



Guess who’s after Robin right now....
You really think Law isn’t going to have an interaction with Drake in this raid and that he isn’t connected to SWORD in anyway? Lol call me pathetic all you want. Law has no history with Big Mom and he isn’t a conquerer like Kidd and Big Mom. You better hope he leaves the fight and gets his own plotline against CP0 or you’ll be watching him react to Kidd and Big Moms CoC clash instead lol
I dont think Law is connected to SWORD. Drake was found and trained bh Sengoku and he treated Law as a pirate
 
#60



In the same chapter:







Look who’s lined up with who:

Just watch lol. You’re delusional if you can’t see that Kidd is being portrayed as the leader in this Big Mom fight.

“Kid” vs “Mom”



Guess who’s after Robin right now....
You really think Law isn’t going to have an interaction with Drake in this raid and that he isn’t connected to SWORD in anyway? Lol call me pathetic all you want. Law has no history with Big Mom and he isn’t a conquerer like Kidd and Big Mom. You better hope he leaves the fight and gets his own plotline against CP0 or you’ll be watching him react to Kidd and Big Moms CoC clash instead lol
*Gives panel of Big Mom punching Kid*

*Leaves out the fact that Law threw off the island*



Kid is not going to solo Big Mom. Even Luffy didn't do that. Kid/Law will take credit for BM, like Luffy/Law took credit for Doffy.

You need 2 Top Supernovas when BM was nowhere near nerfed as Kaido.
 
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