Current Events Question to ZKK faction: If Zoro beats King and then does ZKK, what will Luffy do aside from beating Kaidou?
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In One piece, a victory is always defined by the last man standing. This is why Luffy technically beat katakuri despite Luffy getting KO'd first. Luffy was the last man standing and hence he won.
If Kaido somehow gets up after Luffy KOs him and Zoro has to finish Luffy's work, then Luffy wouldn't have defeated kaido. ZKK only makes sense if Zoro is literally killing an unconscious kaido.
If Kaido somehow gets up after Luffy KOs him and Zoro has to finish Luffy's work, then Luffy wouldn't have defeated kaido. ZKK only makes sense if Zoro is literally killing an unconscious kaido.
Kaido recovering from his defeat thanks to an ability designed to do that doesn't take away Luffy's feat of defeating him.
Just go back to Impel Down to see how characters view the defeat of awakened zoans.
Chapter 532:
Chapter 544
Yes Bon Clay, you did defeat it!
However, as Crocodile explains, after being defeated, they don't stay down for long!
Luffy defeating Kaido in a 1-on-1 will be proof that Luffy is finally ready to become the Pirate King.
Zoro killing Kaido post-awakening will be proof that Luffy's crew is worthy and dependable for the Pirate King.
Just go back to Impel Down to see how characters view the defeat of awakened zoans.
Chapter 532:
However, as Crocodile explains, after being defeated, they don't stay down for long!
Luffy defeating Kaido in a 1-on-1 will be proof that Luffy is finally ready to become the Pirate King.
Zoro killing Kaido post-awakening will be proof that Luffy's crew is worthy and dependable for the Pirate King.
What?
Since when is the "awakened-version" the "stronger" version?
How do you come up with this?
How do you come up with him recovering "full-health", too?
Awakening isn't some kind of additional Zoan form that's even stronger than Hybrid.
Let me explain...
Luffy will defeat Kaido in a 1-on-1. That will be the biggest feat of this arc.
Kaido will acknowledge Luffy as someone stronger than him and as someone worthy of becoming Pirate King.
Kaido, after his defeat, will recover (thanks to awakening, since one of the uses of awakening, is to make Zoans wake back up after their loss) a small amount to still be a threat.
This is when Zoro steps up and decides to protect everyone in Luffy's absence.
Zoro will most likely get two attacks on Kaido.
One on Oni Kaido (Hybrid or base), where Kaido acknowledges him as the monster samurai of Oden's like.
And a second hit on Dragon Kaido, where he repeats the dragon-slaying feat of Ryuma over the Flower Capital.
This will be a great feat for Zoro.
However, it still won't trump Luffy's feat of defeating the strongest in a 1-on-1.
Zoro's feat will only be possible thanks to the work Luffy accomplished first.
Luffy would have gotten Roger~esque acknowledgement.
While Zoro gets Oden/Ryuma~esque acknowledgement...
Since when is the "awakened-version" the "stronger" version?
How do you come up with this?
How do you come up with him recovering "full-health", too?
Awakening isn't some kind of additional Zoan form that's even stronger than Hybrid.
Let me explain...
Luffy will defeat Kaido in a 1-on-1. That will be the biggest feat of this arc.
Kaido will acknowledge Luffy as someone stronger than him and as someone worthy of becoming Pirate King.
Kaido, after his defeat, will recover (thanks to awakening, since one of the uses of awakening, is to make Zoans wake back up after their loss) a small amount to still be a threat.
This is when Zoro steps up and decides to protect everyone in Luffy's absence.
Zoro will most likely get two attacks on Kaido.
One on Oni Kaido (Hybrid or base), where Kaido acknowledges him as the monster samurai of Oden's like.
And a second hit on Dragon Kaido, where he repeats the dragon-slaying feat of Ryuma over the Flower Capital.
This will be a great feat for Zoro.
However, it still won't trump Luffy's feat of defeating the strongest in a 1-on-1.
Zoro's feat will only be possible thanks to the work Luffy accomplished first.
Luffy would have gotten Roger~esque acknowledgement.
While Zoro gets Oden/Ryuma~esque acknowledgement...
Kaido recovering from his defeat thanks to an ability designed to do that doesn't take away Luffy's feat of defeating him.
Just go back to Impel Down to see how characters view the defeat of awakened zoans.
Chapter 532:
Chapter 544
Yes Bon Clay, you did defeat it!
However, as Crocodile explains, after being defeated, they don't stay down for long!
Luffy defeating Kaido in a 1-on-1 will be proof that Luffy is finally ready to become the Pirate King.
Zoro killing Kaido post-awakening will be proof that Luffy's crew is worthy and dependable for the Pirate King.
Just go back to Impel Down to see how characters view the defeat of awakened zoans.
Chapter 532:
Chapter 544
Yes Bon Clay, you did defeat it!
However, as Crocodile explains, after being defeated, they don't stay down for long!
Luffy defeating Kaido in a 1-on-1 will be proof that Luffy is finally ready to become the Pirate King.
Zoro killing Kaido post-awakening will be proof that Luffy's crew is worthy and dependable for the Pirate King.
Luffy fights his opponent to the point where Luffy himself ends up passing out shortly afterwards. If Luffy knocks out Kaido, and then passes out himself, and Kaido ends up getting back up, while Luffy is still knocked out, then the winner would be Kaido, not Luffy, because they both passed out, but Kaido got back up.
Or are we supposed to believe that Kaido won't be able to push Luffy to that point?
does axe hand morgans have hundreds of chapters building up their defeat by the hands of Luffy?
It takes olympic tier mental gymnastics to believe that Kaido's conflict with zoro is in anyway more important than his conflict with Luffy. Luffy vs kaido has literally been at the core of wano, whereas zoro has basically been Luffy's sidekick
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It takes olympic tier mental gymnastics to believe that Kaido's conflict with zoro is in anyway more important than his conflict with Luffy. Luffy vs kaido has literally been at the core of wano, whereas zoro has basically been Luffy's sidekick