Who has the best Onigashima PU?


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Anyways, @ShishioIsBack I don't know why you downplay ACoC so much when Zoro has also showed it.
Well I am not downplaying him, I am taking it for what it is, it is a massive boost to AP so essentially a buffed up version of CoA.

But just like CoA Base AP matters alot hence why Luffy and Yamato were doing tickle job to Kaido while Oden and Zoro were nearly sending him to grim reaper in single attacks.

Big Mom has ACoC just like Kaido but that doesn't give her a win over Zoro when he has God like endurance, he's much faster and has far far greater damage output.
 
chances are, Kid's going to get ACoC to beat big mom

We haven't seen the actual panels so idk how it goes, but at least from the summary, it seems like Law, and not Kid, was the one to do serious damage to big mom. However, Law's awakening is probably his ultimate attack as it drains a lot of stamina.

This fight will ultimately turn into big mom vs kid, and Kid obviously can't win by just throwing trash at her. So far we're yet to see Kid use CoC, despite the fact that we know he has it. I'm betting oda will give him a haki bloom.
Well see how it goes but honestly I don't even think Big Mom is defeated this arc but who knows.

But I am just saying replace Kidd with Zoro and have Law attacks Big Mom from inside and the same time Zoro Ashura her and Big Mom is done for.

That's the difference between Zoro and Zoros cheerleader.
 
Because the odds of Oda reusing a final/finishing move twice in an arc, less than twenty chapters apart seems very low. Especially considering he’s been keeping Asura on the downlow all timeskip. Is it possible? Sure, anything is. Is it likely? Nah.
He could use it with it simply not being the final move but whether he actually uses it or not idk im personally not really for or against it either way tbh
Well, because King is strong. But how strong is yet to be seen. All the feats point in Zoro’s favor as the rooftop with his bonafide top tier attack power and amazing endurance. No one is going into this fight excepting Zoro to lose, it’s just a matter of what difficulty King can give Zoro.
Having better feats is alot less relevant when a character with not as many is the one overwhelming the other. Like if some random character came out of the blue beating luffy's ass using luffy's previous gears to say why he should win dont make much sense.

Zoro is obviously going to beat king we just don't know how yet. Whether king gives zoro (no assumed power ups) an extreme diff or even low diff fight doesn't change kings standing and portrayal compared to the other yonko right hands.
If zoro low diffs it just tells us hes way beyond king and their league
If zoro extreme diffs it tells us hes still comparable to king and the others
this largely comes from your perception of Zoro being much weaker than he is. Because if King can pressure and give Zoro a high diff fight, he’s likely beating FS Luffy.

Portayal, there’s nothing putting any of them above each other. It’s down to feats now
King pushing zoro high diff doesn't automatically put him over fs luffy, katakuri, or any of the other right hands. Katakuri is at worst on the same level as king

Portrayal wise luffy beat a "1yc" and zoro hasnt yet. Luffy beating katakuri is a better accomplishment than zoro has shown so far untip he actually shows massive superiority over king whichll automatically make him likely stronger. Or just beats king and then depending on how he does it it will let us decide how debatable it it
 
He could use it with it simply not being the final move but whether he actually uses it or not idk im personally not really for or against it either way tbh

Having better feats is alot less relevant when a character with not as many is the one overwhelming the other. Like if some random character came out of the blue beating luffy's ass using luffy's previous gears to say why he should win dont make much sense.

Zoro is obviously going to beat king we just don't know how yet. Whether king gives zoro (no assumed power ups) an extreme diff or even low diff fight doesn't change kings standing and portrayal compared to the other yonko right hands.
If zoro low diffs it just tells us hes way beyond king and their league
If zoro extreme diffs it tells us hes still comparable to king and the others

King pushing zoro high diff doesn't automatically put him over fs luffy, katakuri, or any of the other right hands. Katakuri is at worst on the same level as king

Portrayal wise luffy beat a "1yc" and zoro hasnt yet. Luffy beating katakuri is a better accomplishment than zoro has shown so far untip he actually shows massive superiority over king whichll automatically make him likely stronger. Or just beats king and then depending on how he does it it will let us decide how debatable it it
You are back to being as bad at power scaling as you were on Oro Jackson

Here is the truth of things
Roof Top Zoro > Current Luffy based on feats hype and portrayal
 

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He could use it with it simply not being the final move but whether he actually uses it or not idk im personally not really for or against it either way tbh

Having better feats is alot less relevant when a character with not as many is the one overwhelming the other. Like if some random character came out of the blue beating luffy's ass using luffy's previous gears to say why he should win dont make much sense.

Zoro is obviously going to beat king we just don't know how yet. Whether king gives zoro (no assumed power ups) an extreme diff or even low diff fight doesn't change kings standing and portrayal compared to the other yonko right hands.
If zoro low diffs it just tells us hes way beyond king and their league
If zoro extreme diffs it tells us hes still comparable to king and the others

King pushing zoro high diff doesn't automatically put him over fs luffy, katakuri, or any of the other right hands. Katakuri is at worst on the same level as king

Portrayal wise luffy beat a "1yc" and zoro hasnt yet. Luffy beating katakuri is a better accomplishment than zoro has shown so far untip he actually shows massive superiority over king whichll automatically make him likely stronger. Or just beats king and then depending on how he does it it will let us decide how debatable it it
Deluded. Absolutely deluded
Luffy beat kata and got negged by base kaido zoro has feats with hybrid kaido
Kata and wci luffy are bums
 
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