Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1030 Spoilers Discussion

[Strawhats Bible]

The spoilers made it seem like everyone was getting more damage than they actually were. Big Mom is barely damaged by Law at all, it didn't look that much stronger of a impact than Radio Knife for example, Kid and Law seem completely able to continue fighting unlike the spoiler initially implied.
This fight is fr just beginning now.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

How would you react when a normal human make an illusion and and grew extra heads and arms! It’s only natural.

and after zoro cut him he did the same face (and he didn't this face for luffy base coc)

 

[sanjikun]

Why dreaming, your shit doesn´t make any sense.
Why Law should used a weaker attack who drain more stamina if he also could use Gammaknife?
Awakening is his last resort, cry more and accept that awakening>GK.

Wtf are you going on about? Katakuri's finisher was literally a non-awakened move. That's his most lethal attack.

Doflamingo's signature moves (Parasite, Birdcage) are also non-awakened.

Why Law should used a weaker attack who drain more stamina if he also could use Gammaknife?

Because he will use it later? You're making it sound like that was his last attack.

 

[ThatMojaveCourier06]

"..b.but.but Doffy..."

"Doffy >>>>>>>>>Big Mom"

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Wtf are you going on about? Katakuri's finisher was literally a non-awakened move. That's his most lethal attack.

Doflamingo's signature moves (Parasite, Birdcage) are also non-awakened.



Because he will use it later? You're making it sound like that was his last attack.

Their awakenings are different. It's like comparing apples and oranges.

 

[Zowo]

with law awakened def have law>doffy now

 

[ReggieZoldyck21]

Kid's chances of killing BM with his recent move are higher than him doing lasting damage to Marco with it. He survives it with 0 issues whatsoever.

Marco will survive a shit ton of weapons and a giant metal structure collapsing on him and crushing him with 0 issues, when we just saw what a much weaker crushing attack could do to a humans body when Queen snapped a bunch of Sanjis bones? Ok lol. These guys might be super human, but they still have human bodies

 

[sanjikun]

@sanjikun you think this is weaker than gamma knife?

Are you brain dead? This is probably the most basic awakened move he has.

He's still holding on to Gamma Knife, when he's shown Countershock twice. We will see GK later.

 

[Roo]

Bruh i told ya Doffy wankers really be putting him at Yonko level

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Wtf are you going on about? Katakuri's finisher was literally a non-awakened move. That's his most lethal attack.

Doflamingo's signature moves (Parasite, Birdcage) are also non-awakened.



Because he will use it later? You're making it sound like that was his last attack.

no mate
unlike katakuri , law has implied his awakened moves are last resort, stronger moves but likely extremely exhausting as a cost
more so than his abilities without it
e.g his regular gamma knife.

its a stronger attack.....

 

[Peroroncino]

with law awakened def have law>doffy now

Law stomps doffy now

 

[MarineHQ]

He needs to have higher AP than what we have seen from Big Mom at least to put him down lol. Do you think he has that? Do you think Marco will land 1000 blows on Kidd before Kidd beats him?

Why?
Marco equalled a prometheus infused punch, creating a huge explosion due to the Collison.
Big mom no diffed a Kong gun with less.
Marco's AP is entirely sufficient.

Ok? Kidd suplexed a mountain sized Dragon Kaido

Marco won't challenge Kid to arm-wrestling.

Awakening takes care of that issue. “Assign” will probably be very helpful against faster enemies. With this he can pretty much hone in on any enemy by attracting himself towards them or them towards him.

True, but again, what does he do against Marco's regen ?
Like, no matter how hard Kid's attack lands Marco will simply regenerate.

You’re crazy if you think Marco is surviving that Punk Crash attack we saw at the end without significant injuries. His regeneration has limits, he was about to lose to King before Zoro stepped in.

He looked fine to me. Fighting one opponent is much easier stamina wise than several at once. Marco's stamina would never drain as fast as it did.

remember her bitching Marco out and putting him in a choke hold ready to finish him within a couple of panels of action while Kidd was holding her 1 v 1 for several chapters until Law came.

So by that logic, you’re saying she puts Marco over Luffy too? Just because she called them kids? Lol

She still admitted that it's better to avoid fighting Marco while she wanted all the smoke with Kid.

Yes, the last version of Luffy BM saw was in WCI, so she had Marco higher up them him which is the reason she was so shocked after Luffy dunked on Kaido with Red Roc.

 

[sanjikun]

no mate
unlike katakuri , law has implied his awakened moves are last resort, stronger moves but likely extremely exhausting as a cost
more so than his abilities without it
e.g his regular gamma knife.

its a stronger attack.....

There is more to awakening than just "strength". There's tricks, speed, AoE, spatial manipulation.

You're implying every awakened move > every non-awakened move. That's factually incorrect. There are countless counter-examples. Awakening just opens up the amount of options at your disposal.

 

[Bogard]

As things stands, Kid and Law are lacking something to be truly capable to take down BM. They are already busting out their last ressort mode after being pushed to their limits when BM is yet to get started, and while they managed to surprise her this chapter with their awakening, and that i believe they'd continuously use even stronger and stronger moves, she should gain more knowledge on their awakening the longer they fight, and BM is also a paramecia who has an underling who possess awakening(who stated it was obvious he was awakened), so should have awakening herself.

Even assuming Kid unlocks adcoc, BM already possess her own to counter it. The only scenario where i could see them maybe prevailing is if Law uses an ultimate hax move that end up weakening BM, with Kid taking advantage of this, but the way things are going right now, it looks more like the battle will be stalled, with great feats from both side, BM ending up greatly hurt, but still looking superior unless they receive some help(Killer, Yamato, Marco are the only possibilities atm)

 

[Zowo]

Law stomps doffy now

i trolled law but i really like this awakening of his
he will be the 4th strongest swordsman eos

 

[Raughtale]

Kid and Law still have room to show more, some are getting to hung up on the ''last resort'' aspect and forget G4 was also a last resort move that pushed Luffy's body to his limit but he still can use it for 30 minutes.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Are you brain dead? This is probably the most basic awakened move he has.

He's still holding on to Gamma Knife, when he's shown Countershock twice. We will see GK later.

yeah it makes perfect sense for him to leave awakening as his last resort
when he has attacks without it that are more effective without being as exhausting. .....

"Are you brain dead?"
your question is extremely ironic

 

[Roo]

As things stands, Kid and Law are lacking something to be truly capable to take down BM. They are already busting out their last ressort mode after being pushed to their limits when BM is yet to get started, and while they managed to surprise her this chapter with their awakening, and that i believe they'd continuously use even stronger and stronger moves, she should gain more knowledge on their awakening the longer they fight, and BM is also a paramecia who has an underling who possess awakening(who stated it was obvious he was awakened), so should have awakening herself.

Even assuming Kid unlocks adcoc, BM already possess her own to counter it. The only scenario where i could see them maybe prevailing is if Law uses an ultimate hax move that end up weakening BM, with Kid taking advantage of this, but the way things are going right now, it looks more like the battle will be stalled, with great feats from both side, BM ending up greatly hurt, but still looking superior unless they receive some help(Killer, Yamato, Marco are the only possibilities atm)

I’m 100% sure they’re getting help if the right continues

 

[Peroroncino]

Lol are candies really saying that GK is stronger than anesthesia a movie law confirmed is his trump card and last resort?:cantseeme:

 

[Roo]

Kid and Law still have room to show more, some are getting to hung up on the ''last resort'' aspect and forget G4 was also a last resort move that pushed Luffy's body to his limit but he still can use it for 30 minutes.

Yeah last resort could just be an excuse as to why they didn’t use it before

 

[Brendan Schaub]

sexual tension between law and kid was high in this chapter