Powers & Abilities Sanji, raid suit and invisibility

[Hiragaro]

Each Vinz kid has an ability exclusive to them. For Niji it’s electricity & for Sanji it’s invisibility.

And Sanji has Fire on top of that.
So 2 abilities, why is it impossible for any other vinsmoke?
I mean they even all have an exoskeleton. An ability shared by all of them.

 

[WesMidnight]

But it was called STEALTH god damn it!!!

Is Sanji screaming stealth when he transforms in the raid suit?
Occam's razor is that Oda just liked the english word stealth and re-used it when he came up with the idea for stealth black, he didn't turn invisible, he just disappeared from sight due to speed. If it was invisibility it would have been hyped more at the time.
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And Sanji has Fire on top of that.
So 2 abilities, why is it impossible for any other vinsmoke?
I mean they even all have an exoskeleton. An ability shared by all of them.

The fire PREDATES the modifications awakened by the raid suit, by 600 chapters.

 

[Hiragaro]

True ^^. My bad, missed that 🙏🏿
Fu can mean speed but it is not exclusive to speed. Here from the text it seems to be referring to Absalom vanishing.

What exactly is the argument tho.
The sfx that is common across all the invisibility users when they are phasing out is ‘su’ so what’s the problem?

Fast movement was always showcased like that, it was even the same when Niji had the RS on which would make him even faster.

But appereantly he can move so fast that there isn't even this typical "shadow" left and simply disappear, as if he went invisible? Not even Luffy in Snake Man could do that and i highly doubt Niji is faster than Snake Man. Even with his RS Niji couldn't speed blitz Oven.

 

[PuckTheGreat]

But it was called STEALTH god damn it!!!

So stealth doesn’t work in the context of Speed?
Again nothing in the story including Niji’s Vivre card supports the notion of Niji being able to use invisibility. The only argument you can give to support that notion is his technique name called ‘stealth’ an argument which that Anime already debunks. Whereas, there are several strong logical arguments you can make against that notion.
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And Sanji has Fire on top of that.
So 2 abilities, why is it impossible for any other vinsmoke?
I mean they even all have an exoskeleton. An ability shared by all of them.

Sanji is not like every other vinsmoke tho? He was a failed experiment and was capable of using fire even before his awakening

 

[Hiragaro]

The fire PREDATES the modifications awakened by the raid suit, by 600 chapters.

So you are telling me it's impossible that the Fire abilities somehow "leaked" thru Sora's drug? I mean his appereance, his eyebrows, were changed despite his modifications not being active. So the modifications left a "foot print"/"leaked" there despite of Sora's drug.

 

[WesMidnight]

So you are telling me it's impossible that the Fire abilities somehow "leaked" thru Sora's drug? I mean his appereance, his eyebrows, were changed despite his modifications not being active. So the modifications left a "foot print"/"leaked" there despite of Sora's drug.

His eyebrows were swirled in the unmodified direction until his modifications became fully active this chapter though.

 

[Hiragaro]

His eyebrows were swirled in the unmodified direction until his modifications became fully active this chapter though.

What i mean is his eyebrows are not a normal thing, his Mother didn't had those eyebrows and Judge most likely didn't either. So they were changed because of the modifications.

 

[WesMidnight]

What i mean is his eyebrows are not a normal thing, his Mother didn't had those eyebrows and Judge most likely didn't either. So they were changed because of the modifications.

I mean it is possible, but it is possible they inherited it as part of genetic recombination.
Duval has them, and they were just a character quirk before the idea of Sanji being genetically modified super soldier was a thing.

 

[Kishido]

Sarcasm is hard

 

[Zoro the badass god]

Evil sanji=big clown

 

[Rootbeer]

Think for once in your life, if CoO could not spot invisibility Shiryu could just cheap shot Zoro any way he pleased. There are only a few alternatives such as another sense or reflexes but that's just mental stretching.

At least basic CoO can't detect invisibility, but unconcious dodging that Sanji did WCI could and of course future sight.. The Question is if Zoro would have enough speed and reflexes to block in time..

 

[Finalbeta]

Evil sanji=big clown

 

[Rootbeer]

I love how people.still think that Niji can go invisible... It makes no sense plot, power and comic wise

Its basic features of their genes modification, exoskeleton and invisibility, the main dish is spark, electricity and fire.. Yonji is a dud in that regard

 

[Sir Yasheen]

But it was called STEALTH god damn it!!!

It’s likely that it’s a technique he can use to erase his presence from CoO due to his lack of emotion combined with his speed.

 

[Kishido]

Its basic features of their genes modification, exoskeleton and invisibility, the main dish is spark, electricity and fire.. Yonji is a dud in that regard

So the Vinsmokes are dumb Stealth Black is a fluke

 

[Rootbeer]

Yeah and not only that, sanji fire powers are powered by his emotions so how being awakened like his brothers with no emotion will give him fire powers, that's contracting.

The drug let him keep his emotions and supressed his mutation, now he can awaken his genes and retain his feelings because he has grown..
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So the Vinsmokes are dumb Stealth Black is a fluke

There was no Stealth Black when Vito was speaking of the comic strip and recalling images.. The comic strip isn't an identic representation of the vinsmokes in One Piece, Sora is dead and she's a woman, the mother of the villains in the comic.. In the comic Ichiji is Orange and Judge is Red, unlike his children Judge has no powers..

 

[Zaretball]

If Niji had invisibility, the manga or vivre card or even Judge would have mentioned it, it's probably just super speed.

 

[Kishido]

The drug let him keep his emotions and supressed his mutation, now he can awaken his genes and retain his feelings because he has grown..
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There was no Stealth Black when Vito was speaking of the comic strip and recalling images.. The comic strip isn't an identic representation of the vinsmokes in One Piece, Sora is dead and she's a woman, the mother of the villains in the comic.. In the comic Ichiji is Orange and Judge is Red, unlike his children Judge has no powers..

We only have seen 2 kids in Vitos recalling... Just saying...
But I doubt Law talked out if his ass.

Still Niji hasn't invisibility. Period

 

[Kalimotxo]

Invisibility is not a power up

 

[Rootbeer]

We only have seen 2 kids in Vitos recalling... Just saying...
But I doubt Law talked out if his ass.

Still Niji hasn't invisibility. Period

We see one Orange and Judge red..
I don't think Law lied either, he simply knows what he knows, the comic strip aren't aware that all vinsmokes can use invisibility since it differ from the original.. Stealth Black is the hero Sanji would have been if he lived as Germa but ended up dying like Judge made it up that way, but since he chose a different path he will not be Stealth Black, he will of another color that's not in Germa's history or the comic strip.. In power rangers, sentai and such there are multiple generations with sometimes different shades..

Why it bothers you so much that all vinsmokes have invisibility just like exoskeleton and a special colored power for their main..