Who will be the next Strawhat


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I am sorry but Jesus burgress will disarm Yamato and beat her with secret wrestling moves until Jinbe save her.

I believe Jinbe is better than both.
I don't think Yamato needs saving. You're talking about character who spar with her father countless times. You're also talking about same character who had sea stone cuffs mind you that clash with a rookie level ace. A character snuck up knock out ulti for short while. Knock out oars like creature not that long ago that even Franky was shocked by. You also have same character who fought against Luffy who uses gear second and gear third with haki didn't even flitch.
 
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A character who can match Kaido's thunder bagua doesn't need to be saved by Jinbei, no matter how strong he is. I hope you're not implying that Carrot would fare better against Burgess.
What are talking about ? I am saying Jesus burgress will beat Yamato and someone like jinbe save her. Remember Jesus burgress is Blackbeard pirates and you will regret undermining Jesus burgress. He will be stronger than you thought.

Kinemon, law, zoro, Kidd, and luffy can take thunder bagua.
‘Don’t cry when Yamato feel helpless against Blackbeard pirates. Beside she is yonko commander level like king, queen, and jack.
 
The goal post was never the name, but the correction of the name from the character. There is no occurence of Luffy calling a strawhat something else that their name when said strawhat demands correction.

Yamato asked for a correction and Luffy did nothing.

Creating therefore the same direspect for Luffy over Yamato than Luffy over Law or Luffy over Kid. Luffy does not care what Yamato thinks and this, is a fact.
Ah, so that's the new goalpost. First it was "Luffy has never given a strawhat a nickname". We posted panels of "reindeer meat" and the goalpost was shifted to "Luffy has never given a strawhat a nickname once he knows their name". Now we've shown panels of exactly that happening with Franky and Brook, and the new goalpost is "Luffy never called a strawhat a nickname for a second time after they correct him". You can pretend it's not moving the goalpost all you want, but we all know what you and Dizzy said, and the argument gets weaker every time you do it.

Edit: sorry for the accidental double post. I thought we had auto merge here.
 
What are talking about ? I am saying Jesus burgress will beat Yamato and someone like jinbe save her. Remember Jesus burgress is Blackbeard pirates and you will regret undermining Jesus burgress. He will be stronger than you thought.

Kinemon, law, zoro, Kidd, and luffy can take thunder bagua.
‘Don’t cry when Yamato feel helpless against Blackbeard pirates. Beside she is yonko commander level like king, queen, and jack.
Dude have you seen Yamato this is not shirahoshi, pudding, Viola, Hiyori, rebecca or vivi situation. It's pretty different from your avenge one piece princess.
 
What are talking about ? I am saying Jesus burgress will beat Yamato and someone like jinbe save her. Remember Jesus burgress is Blackbeard pirates and you will regret undermining Jesus burgress. He will be stronger than you thought.

Kinemon, law, zoro, Kidd, and luffy can take thunder bagua.
‘Don’t cry when Yamato feel helpless against Blackbeard pirates. Beside she is yonko commander level like king, queen, and jack.
This post makes no sense.

Besides we already know there is one spot left
 
Ah, so that's the new goalpost. First it was "Luffy has never given a strawhat a nickname". We posted panels of "reindeer meat" and the goalpost was shifted to "Luffy has never given a strawhat a nickname once he knows their name". Now we've shown panels of exactly that happening with Franky and Brook, and the new goalpost is "Luffy never called a strawhat a nickname for a second time after they correct him". You can pretend it's not moving the goalpost all you want, but we all know what you and Dizzy said, and the argument gets weaker every time you do it.

Edit: sorry for the accidental double post. I thought we had auto merge here.
Oh well. You replied to someone who yesterday claimed “Carrot fans know when there is a chance to be wrong. I don’t see it on Yamato stans”.

And there he goes, still trying to prove himself right and Yamato stans wrong. What an irony
 
What are talking about ? I am saying Jesus burgress will beat Yamato and someone like jinbe save her. Remember Jesus burgress is Blackbeard pirates and you will regret undermining Jesus burgress. He will be stronger than you thought.

Kinemon, law, zoro, Kidd, and luffy can take thunder bagua.
‘Don’t cry when Yamato feel helpless against Blackbeard pirates. Beside she is yonko commander level like king, queen, and jack.
My comment has nothing to do with Burgess. His eos power level will probably depend on what devil fruit he gets, so I can't really powerscale him yet. My objection was to your comment that Jinbei would save her. Jinbei is definitely not stronger than Yamato.
 
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What are talking about ? I am saying Jesus burgress will beat Yamato and someone like jinbe save her. Remember Jesus burgress is Blackbeard pirates and you will regret undermining Jesus burgress. He will be stronger than you thought.

Kinemon, law, zoro, Kidd, and luffy can take thunder bagua.
‘Don’t cry when Yamato feel helpless against Blackbeard pirates. Beside she is yonko commander level like king, queen, and jack.
You serious? :suresure:

Yamato was able to stall one of the 4 emperors of the sea while Burgess got his ass kicked by Sabo. Unless you're implying that Burgess can go toe to toe with Kaido and Sabo is Pirate King tier, there is no universe where Burgess beats Yamato.
 
Ah, so that's the new goalpost. First it was "Luffy has never given a strawhat a nickname". We posted panels of "reindeer meat" and the goalpost was shifted to "Luffy has never given a strawhat a nickname once he knows their name". Now we've shown panels of exactly that happening with Franky and Brook, and the new goalpost is "Luffy never called a strawhat a nickname for a second time after they correct him". You can pretend it's not moving the goalpost all you want, but we all know what you and Dizzy said, and the argument gets weaker every time you do it.

Edit: sorry for the accidental double post. I thought we had auto merge here.
There is no "new" goal post. Go BACK into the discussion, that as ALWAYS been our problem. Sigran, I will respect you, but you really have to be careful now. This is not a good argument.

The argument still stays strong. Luffy called Yamato YamaO, this is one he does with ally like Law or Kid. Yamato corrected him and Luffy didn't listened showing here a CLEAR sign that Luffy ONLY consider Yamato as an ally and nothing more.

You can blame the story if you want, (don't do it) but those are the fact, plain and simple.
 
In her stead? Well that's very presumptuous I must say xd There is no obligation or rule set by Oda that someone absolutely must leave Wano with Luffy I believe. And if we are talking about purposes, Yamato's purpose looks as one of the most generic ones anyway, half of OP characters wants to go to the sea and have adventures. Tama and Carrot wants the same, idk why (or maybe I do actually lol) but Oda doesn't put much effort in there recently and just goes with ctrl+s ctrl+v motivation. Like what, he couldn't came up with something more unique rather than hop on a ship and have fun without any specific purpose? And that actually bugs me a little regardless the next SH discussion.
I was just comparing to the panel you posted, those are very different in every sense so not sure why you posted it. She keeps repeating it, when she met Luffy, after she found out about Momo, the scabbards, during her scrimish with Kaido. Things change but her desire remains. So either she changes her mind (unlikely since she is so dead set on it), Luffy rejects her (why would he, i need to hear a good reason), she dies (lol), or she indeed sets sail with the SHP.

Tama and Carrot dont want the same, Carrot said once she wants to go on a adventure, which already happened. Totoland is her wonderland, thematically she fits there and thats more than eniugh for her. Tama is intriguing but the last we heard of her is she wants to see a Wano with Momo as shogun, Luffy said he will make Wano so that she can eat delicious food every day, and her desire to leave was more about not wanting to say goodbye to Ace than actual adventuring. Yamato is different, shes been waiting for Luffy since Ace mentioned him, and she has enough set up to further build on her character. Its not a simple yaaay, lets have fuun, unlike Carrot
 
Don't talk about mental gymnastics, Mr. Carrot is going to leave the sunny to hunt all the ponegliffs in the world!
Yeah, that was clearly giving her too much credit, she’ll just slink into being Neko’s subordinate at this rate.

So the daughter of an emperor that is nicknamed the "oni princess", is in fact not the princess of Onigashima..?

Garp...you're a treasure.
Man, not really getting that the “arc princess” role is really a damsel-in-distress role featuring characters, some of whom aren’t royalty, like Nami, Conis, Robin, Vivi, Shirashoshi, Rebecca etc?

And that Yamato is far too strong a figure to be included in this category, while Hiyori fits it to a tee and is the actual princess of the arc? it’s the Wano arc, not the Onigashima arc.

Saying “Yamato is the arc princess“ is as dumb as saying Smoothie is. Or Aladdin’s mermaid wife. Technically true, but not at all getting what the role actually entails.
This is news to you, not me.
Nah, I quite understand that. I can also understand the difference between a statement that will happen and one that won’t.

Yamato saying she’ll sail with Luffy being an example of the former. As safe a bet as Luffy saying he’ll be the Pirate King.

That would your lack of basic understanding of what the story of OP is about.
Adventure, freedom, breaking the chains that bind people and the world, found family, etc, etc.

All the things that will lead to Yamato sailing with Luffy like she wants to do.

It's from reading the story and applying basic analysis. Momo's entire character has been about his personal development into a leader and recognising that it's ok to accept help from others. Yamao's character is about wanting to be Oden. Someone who protected Wano, adventured around the world, and was loved by all.

The WG is threatening not only Wano, but the entire world in a great cleansing. So it makes perfect sense for Yamao and Momo to go together to rally the nations of the world to finally come together. Momo demonstrating what he learnt about working with others as well as his growth as a leader in organising such a huge allied force. Yamao demonstrating that she can be friends with humans and become someone respected the world over, like Oden.
So Yamato wants to be like Oden and sail the seas with the future Pirate King, which is, according to you, not going to happen, and instead she is going to… be like Oden and make friends with people, which is something that can be accomplished entirely with the Strawhats who have already spent the entire series doing the things you’re suggesting she do.

What an argument this is.

We already know that Wano had to be shut to protect it from a "great external force", (i.e. the WG).
Yes, but we don’t know why. The entire world needs protection from the World Gov, they’re insane.

What makes Wano so special, that makes everyone want it. It surely can’t just be the gold that Ryuma was protecting, and even the Road Poneglyph doesn’t seem enough.
So why is Carrot the one that has a plot about her coming to this realisation? And you're wrong that everyone else also needs to realise this. The straw hat's importance is something that is already known to them. Inu and Neko showing the ponegliffs to the crew, Marco saying they're the real stars. Kin emon declaring that Luffy will stand at the top of the seas...This is all something that's known. Yet Carrot is the only one Oda had go through the process of needing to learn exactly why they're important. That's huge set up. Why you think she'll finally understand this after hundreds of chapters of travelling with them as close friends, and then decide to just go off and do her own thing, I have no idea.
Great, you’ve listed a bunch of characters more important than Carrot who already know that the Strawhats are important. Not giving me much reason to think she’ll stick around.

And it’s not a huge set up. It’s a minor plotline to be wrapped up. If it was a huge plotline Oda would bother to actually use Carrot more than as a background character once in a blue moon.

If you're in fact talking about this scene then I can't think of a better example to illustrate the decline in your reading comprehension.
Shows how ”memorable” this amazing interaction with Luffy was, doesn’t it? It is meant to be this one, I’m assuming, cause I can’t think of anything else.
 
I was just comparing to the panel you posted, those are very different in every sense so not sure why you posted it. She keeps repeating it, when she met Luffy, after she found out about Momo, the scabbards, during her scrimish with Kaido. Things change but her desire remains. So either she changes her mind (unlikely since she is so dead set on it), Luffy rejects her (why would he, i need to hear a good reason), she dies (lol), or she indeed sets sail with the SHP.

Tama and Carrot dont want the same, Carrot said once she wants to go on a adventure, which already happened. Totoland is her wonderland, thematically she fits there and thats more than eniugh for her. Tama is intriguing but the last we heard of her is she wants to see a Wano with Momo as shogun, Luffy said he will make Wano so that she can eat delicious food every day, and her desire to leave was more about not wanting to say goodbye to Ace than actual adventuring. Yamato is different, shes been waiting for Luffy since Ace mentioned him, and she has enough set up to further build on her character. Its not a simple yaaay, lets have fuun, unlike Carrot
The build up is a little bit different but at it's simple core their dreams are the same and quite generic: to travel and have adventures. I have no idea why you wrote me a wall of text to make it sound like they aren't. I didn't even say it might prevent someone from joining the crew. How about switching off the defensive mode about literally everything related to Yamato? It's becoming tiresome.
 
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