Oden has a lot of negative portrayal which people like Ndule don't acknowledge because they're scared of the implication it has regarding Laido and LinLin.
-Oden couldn't make a black blade but Mihawk can, and sure Lonko fans will say "b-but neither could Roger or Whitebeard", however Oden comes from Wano, the country of Samurai, and we had a someone who knew him in Kotetsu explicitly mention the possibility of Enma reaching yet another stage if Zoro proves to be up to the task, so that's definitely negative portrayal for Oden.
-Yamato's words after Luffy/Kaido split the skies, Yamato says she read in Oden's journal that the skies would split when WHITEBEARD and ROGER fought, meaning this was something beyond Oden's lvl when he wrote that. Did he reach that level eventually? Probably but that still shows he was nowhere near Roger/WB when he was part of their crews
-Oda never gave any W to Oden. He got clapped by Roger, then is implied to be equal to 39 y.o Kaido but that's it. He could've given him a big W if he wanted to wank him as the top of the top, but nope. Oden's biggest W is Ashura Doji.
-Oden couldn't make a black blade but Mihawk can, and sure Lonko fans will say "b-but neither could Roger or Whitebeard", however Oden comes from Wano, the country of Samurai, and we had a someone who knew him in Kotetsu explicitly mention the possibility of Enma reaching yet another stage if Zoro proves to be up to the task, so that's definitely negative portrayal for Oden.
-Yamato's words after Luffy/Kaido split the skies, Yamato says she read in Oden's journal that the skies would split when WHITEBEARD and ROGER fought, meaning this was something beyond Oden's lvl when he wrote that. Did he reach that level eventually? Probably but that still shows he was nowhere near Roger/WB when he was part of their crews
-Oda never gave any W to Oden. He got clapped by Roger, then is implied to be equal to 39 y.o Kaido but that's it. He could've given him a big W if he wanted to wank him as the top of the top, but nope. Oden's biggest W is Ashura Doji.