Powers & Abilities Enma is just a training wheel.

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Jo_Ndule

Luffy - trains his CoA mastery to get stronger

Zoro - trains his CoA mastery and swordsmanship to get stronger

Sanji - gets an armor gifted because he is useless
Forgot to mention Zoro was gifted a sword as an exchange.
Like he has been getting gifted swords before.

The only one who came up with his own powers post ts is Luffy (g4)
Zoro didnt create any PU except got new PU as gift in wano same way Sanji got RS.
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Enma as a sword didn't worked out like i first imagined it to be. Still it helped Zoro train his Haki, and his words were he would be stronger once he master/get used to the new sword. So overall it is still a PU.
It is because You are comparing Oden who mastered and tamed Enma before turning 18
And using prime Oden to say Enma isn't what I expected.

Oden (39 y.o) has 21 + years using Enma casually with no drawbacks, he is a natural freak.

Dont compare master to a beginner.

About it being a PU, i agree with you.

A PU having a drawback doesnt change the fact it is a PU .
pre ts Gear 2 3 anf g4 has drawbacks but still a PU.
 
Moe liking your own comments is not healthy.
You tell me. Your boy ZoroGang tried to do it and got caught. Are your accounts legit or just you using alts as badly as him.
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Forgot to mention Zoro was gifted a sword as an exchange.
Like he has been getting gifted swords before.

The only one who came up with his own powers post ts is Luffy (g4)
Zoro didnt create any PU except got new PU as gift in wano same way Sanji got RS.
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It is because You are comparing Oden who mastered and tamed Enma before turning 18
And using prime Oden to say Enma isn't what I expected.

Oden (39 y.o) has 21 + years using Enma casually with no drawbacks, he is a natural freak.

Dont compare master to a beginner.

About it being a PU, i agree with you.

A PU having a drawback doesnt change the fact it is a PU .
pre ts Gear 2 3 anf g4 has drawbacks but still a PU.
Sanji got more power actually and we haven't seen his full potential in a fight since after timeskip. We probably going to see his full power in the war and after his training.
 

Jiihad

Survivors Guilt
So Enma is a Magic Sword....is Sandai Kitetsu a magic sword as well? It’s cursed to bring bad fortune to its wielder and Zoro himself said tha Sword is a Problem Child. Not to mention it is bloodthirsty and wants to cut everything

Ame no Habikiri(according to its creator) can slice through tha heavens. That don’t sound like Magic to y’all?

Nidai Kitetsu, exactly like tha Sandai Kitetsu. Is cursed is that not magic?

So if Enma is a Magic Sword these fall under that category as well. I do have a question for those who think Enma allows it’s wielder to use more Haki and cut better. Why? Enma doesn’t give its wielder more Haki, it uses what it’s wielder already has(jus all of it, instead of what tha user wants to use). It’s literally tha users own Haki jus used all at once lol. What’s tha difference in what Enma does and tha user jus pouring all of their Haki into an attack/tha blade
 
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Jo_Ndule

So Enma is a Magic Sword....is Sandai Kitetsu a magic sword as well? It’s cursed to bring bad fortune to its wielder and Zoro himself said tha Sword is a Problem Child. Not to mention it is bloodthirsty and wants to cut everything

Ame no Habikiri(according to its creator) can slice through tha heavens. That don’t sound like Magic to y’all?

Nidai Kitetsu, exactly like tha Sandai Kitetsu. Is cursed is that not magic?

So if Enma is a Magic Sword these fall under that category as well. I do have a question for those who think Enma allows it’s wielder to use more Haki and cut better. Why? Enma doesn’t give its wielder more Haki, it uses what it’s wielder already has(jus all of it, instead of what tha user wants to use). It’s literally tha users own Haki jus used all at once lol. What’s tha difference in what Enma does and tha user jus pouring all of their Haki into an attack/tha blade
Enma draws out haki and maximizes the output to cut anything without limit.

Not even any supreme blade has this.

Other blades have their properties but none is like Enma
 
Stop talking utter nonsense. You wank know no bounds.
"luffy has no plot amor
he bends reality to his will with coc "
"mogura scars kaido in luffy's hands"


same dude
your wank knows no bounds.
:myman:
lack of self reflection is amazing.
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Enma draws out haki and maximizes the output to cut anything without limit.

Not even any supreme blade has this.

Other blades have their properties but none is like Enma
a few cursed blades cut a lot more than zoro wanted . going back prets, one of his first blades was a problem child because it was extremely boodthirsty cutting more than intended. regardlless , taming enma means it doesnt cut more than he wants as you see with the tree. meaning at the end that point is mute .
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This isnt rocket science.
saying it isnt a powerup is a bit false. It forces to user to grow stronger nd zoro recognizes that so it is a powerup, it just isnt a handed down one. so why did zoro adjust so quickly to it?
as oda explained he had been fighting with a blade that made him compatible wado that quickened his progress.
anyone that thinks its a magic blade should toss ame no habakiri in there as well cause it matched enma's feat. according to the swordsmith
enma , ame no habakiri and shusui are said to be on the same level. neither one is said to be superior to the other. anything else saying which one is better is headcanon. zoro potential with either is arguable but I would bet he would grow more using enma due to its nature.
 
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Jiihad

Survivors Guilt
Enma draws out haki and maximizes the output to cut anything without limit.

Not even any supreme blade has this.

Other blades have their properties but none is like Enma
What's tha difference between Enma doing it. And tha Sword wielder doing it themselves?

None that we know of yet, have Enmas property. Nothing is stopping other swords from having exemplery
 
So Enma is a Magic Sword....is Sandai Kitetsu a magic sword as well? It’s cursed to bring bad fortune to its wielder and Zoro himself said tha Sword is a Problem Child. Not to mention it is bloodthirsty and wants to cut everything

Ame no Habikiri(according to its creator) can slice through tha heavens. That don’t sound like Magic to y’all?

Nidai Kitetsu, exactly like tha Sandai Kitetsu. Is cursed is that not magic?

So if Enma is a Magic Sword these fall under that category as well. I do have a question for those who think Enma allows it’s wielder to use more Haki and cut better. Why? Enma doesn’t give its wielder more Haki, it uses what it’s wielder already has(jus all of it, instead of what tha user wants to use). It’s literally tha users own Haki jus used all at once lol. What’s tha difference in what Enma does and tha user jus pouring all of their Haki into an attack/tha blade
You are too technic and smart, those joker probably can't understand what you said lol
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Enma draws out haki and maximizes the output to cut anything without limit.
Not even any supreme blade has this.
Other blades have their properties but none is like Enma
No. Enma only has the side effect when it is used by someone who didnt tame it. Sandai had the same as well as Shusui which it replaced. Go re-read first use of Shusui and tell me what did it do differently compared to Enma? I'll save you the time, nothing different. In both cases, a larger cut happened than intended.

There is no maximising the output on those who tamed it, Oden never shriveled up, not even when cutting Kaido. Enma did nothing different than Ame when it cut Kaido as well as when he clashed with Whitebeard.

Is it a power up? No. Haki training means powering up and thats what Zoro has been doing the entire time skip, training his haki. When not tamed the sword is a liability, when tamed it is normal sword. Containing haki which is the process of taming Enma has yet to be shown as some power up, Zoro didnt have an issue of containing hakj before Enma.

Take Enma away and what Zoro loses? Nothing. His abilities remain the same. Take Raid Suit away from Sanji and what does he lose? Everything that RS provides. See the difference between a gifted power up and training?
 
Enma is a special Magic sword that draws haki automatically from the user allowing the user to cut more than they can on their own. This chapter does not change anything.
That's false
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Panel is small, but seemingly there is not even CoA:Hardening on the swords.
There wasn't hardening on Enma when he was cutting the tree
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Since a lot of people keep claiming that the sword is a power up, what power exactly does the sword give Zoro? I doubt any of these people can answer this simple question
 
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Enma as a sword didn't worked out like i first imagined it to be. Still it helped Zoro train his Haki, and his words were he would be stronger once he master/get used to the new sword. So overall it is still a PU.
the result of the training will be a pu.

enma by itself wasnt.
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Forgot to mention Zoro was gifted a sword as an exchange.
Like he has been getting gifted swords before.

The only one who came up with his own powers post ts is Luffy (g4)
Zoro didnt create any PU except got new PU as gift in wano same way Sanji got RS.
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It is because You are comparing Oden who mastered and tamed Enma before turning 18
And using prime Oden to say Enma isn't what I expected.

Oden (39 y.o) has 21 + years using Enma casually with no drawbacks, he is a natural freak.

Dont compare master to a beginner.

About it being a PU, i agree with you.

A PU having a drawback doesnt change the fact it is a PU .
pre ts Gear 2 3 anf g4 has drawbacks but still a PU.
so did you like skip all the posts from the OP elaborating on this?
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So Enma is a Magic Sword....is Sandai Kitetsu a magic sword as well? It’s cursed to bring bad fortune to its wielder and Zoro himself said tha Sword is a Problem Child. Not to mention it is bloodthirsty and wants to cut everything

Ame no Habikiri(according to its creator) can slice through tha heavens. That don’t sound like Magic to y’all?

Nidai Kitetsu, exactly like tha Sandai Kitetsu. Is cursed is that not magic?

So if Enma is a Magic Sword these fall under that category as well. I do have a question for those who think Enma allows it’s wielder to use more Haki and cut better. Why? Enma doesn’t give its wielder more Haki, it uses what it’s wielder already has(jus all of it, instead of what tha user wants to use). It’s literally tha users own Haki jus used all at once lol. What’s tha difference in what Enma does and tha user jus pouring all of their Haki into an attack/tha blade
getting used to enma = improving haki
 
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Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
Shusui is stronger than Enma.

Forget about Zoro being unable to cut Kaido with his other swords because you ll stay disappointed.

Oda is not making Zoro good because he gathered Enma or else the train would make little to no sense. The sword itself is not the power up.
 
Forgot to mention Zoro was gifted a sword as an exchange.
Like he has been getting gifted swords before.

The only one who came up with his own powers post ts is Luffy (g4)
Zoro didnt create any PU except got new PU as gift in wano same way Sanji got RS.
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It is because You are comparing Oden who mastered and tamed Enma before turning 18
And using prime Oden to say Enma isn't what I expected.

Oden (39 y.o) has 21 + years using Enma casually with no drawbacks, he is a natural freak.

Dont compare master to a beginner.

About it being a PU, i agree with you.

A PU having a drawback doesnt change the fact it is a PU .
pre ts Gear 2 3 anf g4 has drawbacks but still a PU.
You mean gifted the same grade sword? You mean now that we know that other swprds can cut Kaido. So Zoro got gifted the same graded swprd and appearly that made him stronger.:smithnie:
 
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