Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1035 Spoilers Discussion
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People really don't get it. Even if Queen was 25-50 percent weaker than King (Which I doubt) Sanji had a MUCH easier time defeating Queen, than Zoro had defeating King. This means Sanji's cap is not at YC2 tier, as he'd need to be comfortably stronger than Queen to defeat him that easily. This places Sanji closer to Zoro/King, than it does to Queen.
If Sanji struggled equally or more against Queen, that would mean his gap between Zoro/King is larger, but he didn't struggle even half as much.
If Sanji struggled equally or more against Queen, that would mean his gap between Zoro/King is larger, but he didn't struggle even half as much.
This idea was first shared to me by @Gol D. Roger but I'll put it in the form of a proper argument.
Whenever Zoro uses CoC coating, you see that distinct CoC trail and the smoke emanating off of his swords.
And in all the other panels of chapter 1035
But look at this panel.
We can clearly see that it lacks the two things which are constantly present when Zoro uses Advanced Conquerors Haki in this very chapter - the ensuing haki trail on his swords and the smoke on his swords. Whatever it might be, it surely isn't Advanced Conquerors.
Also note how you see lightning go on both sides and not just on one side and the distinct importance given to both Zoro's and King's eyes before the clash.
Where have we seen this before?
What are the chances Zoro just broke out of King's sword's trick mechanism using physical strength and had a basic Conquerors Haki clash with King right there? The next panel, both Zoro and King are pushed back by the wave due to lack of footing.
Did Oda intend to confirm King as a Conquerors Haki user with this? After all the talk about Kingly ambitions.
I'd like to hear your thoughts.
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Whenever Zoro uses CoC coating, you see that distinct CoC trail and the smoke emanating off of his swords.
And in all the other panels of chapter 1035
Also note how you see lightning go on both sides and not just on one side and the distinct importance given to both Zoro's and King's eyes before the clash.
Where have we seen this before?
Did Oda intend to confirm King as a Conquerors Haki user with this? After all the talk about Kingly ambitions.
I'd like to hear your thoughts.
@TheAncientCenturion @Sentinel @Tyki_Mikk @Patryipe @Cinera @Van @Aknolagon @General Duke Hyuo @Hanzo hattori @MonsterKaido @Tejas etc..
Kaku/Jyabura
and
King/Queen
Having direct numerical comparisons very close against each other and being some of their most important fights that happen in parallel is a very close portrayal moment.
Making Zoro/Sanji's bounty 10 mill apart is a very close portrayal moment
Making them have a constant rivalry, is a very close portrayal theme.
Now you can pull out counter examples and mention that Zoro's goal is to be WSS, but from an on panel fight perspective, when both are at their peaks, in the same arc, they are portrayed side by side as Luffy's Right and Left hands fighting the next two strongest guys (both of whom are well below the guy Luffy fights).
Sanji hasn't had a serious 1vs1 in fair conditions against an opponent his level since the time skip until now, that made you underestimate him for some reason.
and
King/Queen
Having direct numerical comparisons very close against each other and being some of their most important fights that happen in parallel is a very close portrayal moment.
Making Zoro/Sanji's bounty 10 mill apart is a very close portrayal moment
Making them have a constant rivalry, is a very close portrayal theme.
Now you can pull out counter examples and mention that Zoro's goal is to be WSS, but from an on panel fight perspective, when both are at their peaks, in the same arc, they are portrayed side by side as Luffy's Right and Left hands fighting the next two strongest guys (both of whom are well below the guy Luffy fights).
Sanji hasn't had a serious 1vs1 in fair conditions against an opponent his level since the time skip until now, that made you underestimate him for some reason.
Tbh, in hindsight it's ultimately not THAT surprising.
For example, after Zoro beat Kaku, Franky and Usopp still rescued Robin and beat Spandam. Tons of captain level fodder was fought at that point. We just happen to have way more moving pieces. Add CP-0, Numbers or BMP (?) And it's kind of the same thing when dealing with Orochi or Fuku or Onigashima.
The fight with Kaido/BM are going to be long as hell, it's appropriate Oda left some additional enemies to be dealt with because of that.
For example, after Zoro beat Kaku, Franky and Usopp still rescued Robin and beat Spandam. Tons of captain level fodder was fought at that point. We just happen to have way more moving pieces. Add CP-0, Numbers or BMP (?) And it's kind of the same thing when dealing with Orochi or Fuku or Onigashima.
The fight with Kaido/BM are going to be long as hell, it's appropriate Oda left some additional enemies to be dealt with because of that.
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