Speculations Realistically, how can ZKK occur at this point?

Pirate King means you find the last Island that no one has been able to do. What pirate king is =/= what is means to luffy. Couldn't beat Garp or Whitebeard though. You might wanna reread the story yourself akhi:suresure:
To find the last island means you have to defeat every obstacle on ur way. Meaning Roger and Garp defeated arguably the Strongest to ever exist and his OP crew. Meaning Luffy is gonna defeat The Worlds Strongest Creature, The Worlds Strongest Ever BlackBeard, The Worlds Strongest Marine Akainu, and Imu.

If that doesnt make Luffy the Strongest of all then idk :kayneshrug:
 
Of course, Luffy needs a win against Kaido first before ZKK, but I'm pretty sure the Evil Cook plotline is done, though.
its very odd coz sanji literally got every boost except for that.. and his faint was never reinforced with him actually looking fatigue as hell or even exclaiming so.

and besides it'd be rendering his dialog with zoro redundant.. which would be a bummer for the moment.. wouldn't be nice narrative wise as well.
 
its very odd coz sanji literally got every boost except for that.. and his faint was never reinforced with him actually looking fatigue as hell or even exclaiming so.

and besides it'd be rendering his dialog with zoro redundant.. which would be a bummer for the moment.. wouldn't be nice narrative wise as well.
the CP0 will not lose vs Apoo and X-drake. I feel Sanji need to safe Nico Robin this time. It is a nice call back to Nico Robin if Sanji can safe this time Nico Robin. They both know their limits, Sanji with a female and Nico Robin vs CP0.
 
the CP0 will not lose vs Apoo and X-drake. I feel Sanji need to safe Nico Robin this time. It is a nice call back to Nico Robin if Sanji can safe this time Nico Robin
but wouldn't that take away from the SN's gains and motives i mean it will be pretty cool for sanji but that would render the SN's plot and worth fruitless.. and a SN subordinate doing that... ehm ehm

atm he looks down even tho granted he didn't take much or anything significant at all.. from Queen.. be didn't even sound that busted from his dialog... but i digress

it can be that Drake builds hype for himself by defeating the masked folk..

it does seem like we have been severely overestimating them for what its worth anyway.
 
its very odd coz sanji literally got every boost except for that.. and his faint was never reinforced with him actually looking fatigue as hell or even exclaiming so.

and besides it'd be rendering his dialog with zoro redundant.. which would be a bummer for the moment.. wouldn't be nice narrative wise as well.
Wouldn't it feel contrived, though? I mean, Cook's focus should be bailing Robin out of Onigashima to make up for his previous mistake, not turning evil.
 
but wouldn't that take away from the SN's gains and motives i mean it will be pretty cool for sanji but that would render the SN's plot and worth fruitless.. and a SN subordinate doing that... ehm ehm

atm he looks down even tho granted he didn't take much or anything significant at all.. from Queen.. be didn't even sound that busted from his dialog... but i digress

it can be that Drake builds hype for himself by defeating the masked folk..

it does seem like we have been severely overestimating them for what its worth anyway.
I think that CP0 has to win, there is no way that the elite force of the world government is stop by 2 SN. Sanji need to repay Nico Robin for the previous action that happen vs Black Maria.
 
I can see a scenario where Luffy has already defeated Kaido who rises once more and Zoro puts him down for good.

Perhaps Kaido tries to boro breath Momonosuke and behind him the flower capital, Luffy rescues Momonosuke whilst saying "Zoro.." who strikes down Kaido and cuts the fire. Somewhat similar to Zoro cutting down Axe Hand Morgan. Wanos citizens see it, Luffy (Joy Boy) and Zoro (New Sword God) get statues similar to Dressrosa.
 
To find the last island means you have to defeat every obstacle on ur way. Meaning Roger and Garp defeated arguably the Strongest to ever exist and his OP crew. Meaning Luffy is gonna defeat The Worlds Strongest Creature, The Worlds Strongest Ever BlackBeard, The Worlds Strongest Marine Akainu, and Imu.

If that doesnt make Luffy the Strongest of all then idk :kayneshrug:
No you don't lmao. Just like Roger ran into Big Mom's territory and ran bag out straight after, never having fought her. To become the pirate King is to find the last Island, and can be done which ever way and not just through strength. You can't be the strongest if you need help defeating said current strongest, come on man:suresure:. Defeating the world's Strongest creature (after said creature fought 15 other people) will not make Luffy the world strongest creature, that would still be Kaido (if he is left alive) as luffy ain't a creature/zoan. Luffy defeating blackbeard is headcanon, anything can happen and he's not the world's strongest ever either. Headcanon again on defeating Akainu and Imu. And who says Imu can fight?

So far luffy defeating Kaido, eventually is the only correct thing you've said.
Luffy will only hold the title of Pirate King and that's it
 
No you don't lmao. Just like Roger ran into Big Mom's territory and ran bag out straight after, never having fought her. To become the pirate King is to find the last Island, and can be done which ever way and not just through strength. You can't be the strongest if you need help defeating said current strongest, come on man:suresure:. Defeating the world's Strongest creature (after said creature fought 15 other people) will not make Luffy the world strongest creature, that would still be Kaido (if he is left alive) as luffy ain't a creature/zoan. Luffy defeating blackbeard is headcanon, anything can happen and he's not the world's strongest ever either. Headcanon again on defeating Akainu and Imu. And who says Imu can fight?

So far luffy defeating Kaido, eventually is the only correct thing you've said.
Luffy will only hold the title of Pirate King and that's it
Nah we know for a fact the next villains will be stronger than kaido the story has always progressed like that. You can't deny that blackbeard will be the strongest either since he has WB (the previous ws) df and 1 more that is OP as well he might even get a 3rd and tbh i wouldn't be surprised if he had Adv Coc.

Luffy is gonna be the strongest of all stop denying it. It's not like it'll take away from zoro. Zoro will be the WSS wich is very plausible. No reason to underrate Future Luffy
 
Nah we know for a fact the next villains will be stronger than kaido the story has always progressed like that. You can't deny that blackbeard will be the strongest either since he has WB (the previous ws) df and 1 more that is OP as well he might even get a 3rd and tbh i wouldn't be surprised if he had Adv Coc.

Luffy is gonna be the strongest of all stop denying it. It's not like it'll take away from zoro. Zoro will be the WSS wich is very plausible. No reason to underrate Future Luffy
Yes I can deny that, he had whitebeard's fruit and his crew yet still ran from Shanks and Akainu. Him being the strongest ever is just your assumption so far. Until he wins a 1 v 1 fight on his own, I personally won't count him as the strongest anything.

Luffy won't be the strongest ever, your assumption again. Nothing to do with Zoro at all. Zoro will be the strongest swordsman, the strongest ever swordsman? Who knows. The same with Luffy, he will he the pirate King, and just like the pirate King before he had equals and was not the strongest of all
 
If kaido rises again that means luffy never won the fight in the first place
They don't care about that
Yes I can deny that, he had whitebeard's fruit and his crew yet still ran from Shanks and Akainu. Him being the strongest ever is just your assumption so far. Until he wins a 1 v 1 fight on his own, I personally won't count him as the strongest anything.

Luffy won't be the strongest ever, your assumption again. Nothing to do with Zoro at all. Zoro will be the strongest swordsman, the strongest ever swordsman? Who knows. The same with Luffy, he will he the pirate King, and just like the pirate King before he had equals and was not the strongest of all
You know Roger was fighting Prime Whitebeard when he was terminally ill right? And the fight was a draw
BB ran away because he wasnt ready he just got the devil fruit, did you expect hed master it so frikkin quickly? Yeah no
Dont worry about the 1v1 BB will defeat Shanks. :zehaha:

All love akhi
 
I think that CP0 has to win, there is no way that the elite force of the world government is stop by 2 SN. Sanji need to repay Nico Robin for the previous action that happen vs Black Maria.
Lol just coz they are elite on what level in Cp0 we don't know and you want them to win doesn't mena that they won't go down lol unless you have basis pertaining to the story but their defeat would mark the uprise of Sword in the navy..

the navy will then disassembled into 2 factions

so that whole drama seems intriguing especially knowing that there will be drama in bulk regarding the revolutionaries and navy post-wano

Being honest.. Queen vs Sanji was lack luster from queen's end and him fainting doesn't really add up with how much resistance Queen offered and
didn't live up to his epithet "The plague"

idk honestly gotta wait for the next chapter.
i rated this one a 5 coz of zoro but feels like a 4 due to Queen or a 4.5....

sanji i hope is up coz

-got all germa PU's except for emotionslessness

-him fainting doesn't add up

-Queen is catching air

-a commander shouldn't be taking a nap on a woman's lap during a war Lmao (ok this one's a but too jest)

- The dialog he had with zoro



I'm not a fan of Queen flying off unconscious with how incomplete he was in his showings.. even if it makes sanji seem just THAT powerful.. nah fam i'd rather have sanji have multiple powerup's to defeat him than the fight feeling incomplete and Queen having this less weight in terms of combat and competency.
 
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