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#41
Thematically, Tigers and Dragons are at the top in Japanese Mythos iirc. or something.
I always thought he'd go for the animals on Rusukaina motive.

Was there a tiger or lion? I think Lion.
 
#42
Thematically, Tigers and Dragons are at the top in Japanese Mythos iirc. or something.
Yeah, it's Chinese mythology. Dragon represents heaven (yin), Tiger represents earth (yang).

This is why ZKK people thought Zoro was going to beat Kaido cause his theme. Fair to say that didn't pan out either. Luffy's theme is Monkey

- No Gear: Pistol
- Gear 2: Jet Pistol
- Gear 3: Gigant Pistol
- CoA: Luffy calls put Buso: Kola before he says "Gum Gum Pistol". Not done often anymore, more Fishman Island/PH stuff.
- CoA w/G2: Red Hawk
- CoA w/G3: Elephant Gun
- Gear 4/Boundman: Kong Gun/Culverin (the punch that comes after Python)
- Gear 4/Boundman @ Gear 3 size: King Kong Gun
- Gear 4/Snakeman: Jet Culverin

Then you have

- AdCoA: Roc Gun
- AdCoA w/ G3: Red Roc

Are what we have so far with AdCoA and no names yet for AdCoC. So very clearly the AdCoA imbuement at least involves new names. Aka, KKG will not be what is used here, it will either be a new name or a new form with a new name.
Oh my fucking god dude. Red Roc is just G3 version of Red Hawk. Luffy used Red Hawk with ACoA.



I also don't agree that KKG is the strongest move Luffy has in his arsenal. AdCoA/CoC imbument already surpasses it, because not one G4 move actually hurt Kaido without Haki.
Yeah, that's why Kinemon > King Kong Gun. Please shut up dude.
 

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#43
Lion is King of the jungle where monkey and other animals leave.

It all depends on which motive Oda wants to go for.

If Chinese mythos. Tiger Man.

If King of the Jungle then Lion Man.
 
#44
Yeah, it's Chinese mythology. Dragon represents heaven (yin), Tiger represents earth (yang).

This is why ZKK people thought Zoro was going to beat Kaido cause his theme. Fair to say that didn't pan out either. Luffy's theme is Monkey



Oh my fucking god dude. Red Roc is just G3 version of Red Hawk. Luffy used Red Hawk with ACoA.





Yeah, that's why Kinemon > King Kong Gun. Please shut up dude.
Bro Roc Gun is an entirely new move (from 1036), explain that one.

And your KKG/Doflamingo dick suck nonsense is getting annoying. Oda uses moves when it serves the story.
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KKG would have been used in the initial fight if it was useful. When has Oda ever had Luffy beat multiple opponents with the same move lmao? It's always ALWAYS been a new moves he's never used prior. He's not going to beat Kaido with the same move he used to beat Doflamingo lmao
 
#45
Bro Roc Gun is an entirely new move (from 1036), explain that one..
Roc Gun has no flames and it used CoC. Nothing to do with "ACoA" naming. It's just a smaller version of Elephant Gun.





Elephant Gun is way more massive.

And your KKG/Doflamingo dick suck nonsense is getting annoying. Oda uses moves when it serves the story.
What's annoying is your "prediction" skill. How many times have you been wrong this arc, 17 out of 10?

Luffy was training to use "flow" with King Kong Gun, and we still haven't seen it. That takes priority over your fantasies.



Maybe if you learn to fucking read, you'd realize KKG was literally the pinnacle of Luffy's raw power.



KKG would have been used in the initial fight if it was useful. When has Oda ever had Luffy beat multiple opponents with the same move lmao? It's always ALWAYS been a new moves he's never used prior. He's not going to beat Kaido with the same move he used to beat Doflamingo lmao
Didn't say it's the exact same move. I literally made a thread saying Luffy could even beat Kaido in base form.

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...-vs-kaido-be-a-repeat-of-goku-vs-jiren.20476/

But KKG will KO Kaido. That is guaranteed. Even if he comes back with awakening.
 
#46
Roc Gun has no flames and it used CoC. Nothing to do with "ACoA" naming. It's just a smaller version of Elephant Gun.





Elephant Gun is way more massive.



What's annoying is your "prediction" skill. How many times have you been wrong this arc, 17 out of 10?

Luffy was training to use "flow" with King Kong Gun, and we still haven't seen it. That takes priority over your fantasies.



Maybe if you learn to fucking read, you'd realize KKG was literally the pinnacle of Luffy's raw power.





Didn't say it's the exact same move. I literally made a thread saying Luffy could even beat Kaido in base form.

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...-vs-kaido-be-a-repeat-of-goku-vs-jiren.20476/

But KKG will KO Kaido. That is guaranteed. Even if he comes back with awakening.
Lol when Luffy beats Kaido with "not KKG" ill be right here to remind you that he never wins with the same move twice lol.

And I've had a pretty decent track record on how I've thought this arc would go down. You guys keep bringing up the 2 weeks of arguments people had with me over Jinbe and Franky's quick victories over the F6, to which I LITERALLY MADE A THREAD THAT SAID IF 1022 SHOWS THEY WIN THEN THATS IT.

Like holy fuck:seriously:
 
#47
Lol when Luffy beats Kaido with "not KKG" ill be right here to remind you that he never wins with the same move twice lol.

And I've had a pretty decent track record on how I've thought this arc would go down. You guys keep bringing up the 2 weeks of arguments people had with me over Jinbe and Franky's quick victories over the F6, to which I LITERALLY MADE A THREAD THAT SAID IF 1022 SHOWS THEY WIN THEN THATS IT.

Like holy fuck:seriously:
Did you read what I said? I never said Luffy would WIN with KKG. But KKG is strong enough to KO Kaido for some time (for him to use awakening).



King Kong is like 100 times stronger than that ^.
 
#48
Did you read what I said? I never said Luffy would WIN with KKG. But KKG is strong enough to KO Kaido for some time (for him to use awakening).



King Kong is like 100 times stronger than that ^.
Nope, I don't agree and dont care to argue. There is a reason internal destruction Haki exists. KKG isn't going to do anything to Kaido without the right imbuement, hence why only AdCoA and AdCoC works. And with the right imbuement, it's going to be a different name.

Not one other G4 move made Kaido bleed during the 1000-1003 fight. KKG isn't on this entirely different magical plane that you are imagining.
 

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#50
Hmm, I want to say yeah, but I still prefer Tiger.
Yeah, Tiger sounds better if you say it to urself a few times "Lion Man, Lion Man", "Tiger Man, Tiger Man".

If I had to pick, I'd say Oda will go for Tiger since it's the whole theme of this arc. Tigers, Dragons, birds, and shit.
 
#51
Nope, I don't agree and dont care to argue. There is a reason internal destruction Haki exists. KKG isn't going to do anything to Kaido without the right imbuement, hence why only AdCoA and AdCoC works. And with the right imbuement, it's going to be a different name.

Not one other G4 move made Kaido bleed during the 1000-1003 fight. KKG isn't on this entirely different magical plane that you are imagining.
I don't understand wtf you're going on about. Is Luffy not coating every move in CoC? I didn't say KKG is not going to have CoC. Who gives a fuck what he calls it. He called it King Kong Gun in training with ACoA thats why I'm stick to that.



You're arguing about random crap which has nothing to do with the topic of this thread: Is he going to use Tiger Man?
 
#52
Yeah, Tiger sounds better if you say it to urself a few times "Lion Man, Lion Man", "Tiger Man, Tiger Man".

If I had to pick, I'd say Oda will go for Tiger since it's the whole theme of this arc. Tigers, Dragons, birds, and shit.
But still, I'd rather this happened. Yes yes, I'm just saying this, not trying to start anything.
 
#54
So one piece colourspread collaboration with Toshio Asakuma( the same ones whose statues are in Odaโ€™s desk) is Odaโ€™s own choice? As far as I remember Oda has only referred Zoro as shark and Luffy as monkey. In Japanese fandom, Tiger is associated with Law too because of his name (Tora)
 
#55
You guys are overcomplicating the shit out of this. There's a power form and a speed form. Just like G2/G3 you have Boundman/Snakeman. Tankman is just Fuusen.

"No, but this is 73% of the way between Boundman and Snakeman in power, but is's 37% of the way between Snakeman and Tankman in speed"





Hyogoro stated Boundman looks like a Guardian Deity (as Kaido is stated to be for Wano), and was training KKG for him. Boundman will fight Kaido.
Oda is giving Luffy a new Gear 4 or new gear as a whole
He's used boundman lots of times vs kaido and failed so no need for it to win now.
Oda is giving him something new we haven't seen.
Btw Tankman isn't just fuusen, you are confusing it with "full version" he used against Cracker

Boundman is a balanced mode : power + speed + defence :
Boundman is based on Kong (gorilla) per the named moves (KG , Kong gatling, Kong rifle & KKG) It's a balanced mode!
Luffy used 3 other named moves which never made sense for a "Kong" mode : Python, Leo bazooka and Rhino scheider. These 3 moves gave us hints to future g4 modes
Snakeman is based on snakes ( named moves: python, black mamba, cobra) a reptile. Its a speed mode.
Tankman is based on Crocodile , Rhino & Hippo, Tanky mammals. I think normal Tankman uses named moves like rhino schneider, etc... a Tanky mode
Tigerman/lionman will have big cats named moves : leo bazooka, ... Power mode

G3 uses elephant named moves...now time Adcoa/adcoc it has Mythical bird moves : Roc!
Red Roc is g3 version of red hawk. Still has "roc" though
The new Gear with AdCoc will have "roc" prefix or some other but the finisher will have "King" prefix to it coz Every Gear 4 mode has "King" move as finisher.

Boundman for Doffy
Tankman for Cracker
Snakeman for Kata
Tigerman to finish Kaido
Awakened Gear to defeat Teach

Oda won't have Boundman defeat any major villain again. Maybe Akainu if he ever fights him.
It failed many times so why make it win vs Kaido?
Oda has been making Strawhats use new loves to win : Sanji got IJ, didn't win with HM or DJ, Zoro didn't win with ashura or Sanzen sekai, he got En'Ou, Jinbei used a new secret move.
Imagine thinking Luffy won't use a new Gear or new "King " move to beat Kaido
 
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#57
He ragdolled Zooan Kaido with ACoA Boundman. Wtf are you smoking?



Just because he can't defeat a relatively fresh Kaido in 30 mins, it doesn't mean he "failed". No one can defeat Kaido in 30 mins. Not even Roger and Whitebeard.
He failed !
He didn't KO Kaido there and g4 ran out
In fact he didn't even infocit real damage to weaken kaido.
You can right whatever you like
Fact remains that Boundman with our without Ryuo failed vs Kaido

Boundman failed vs Cracker, so Oda made tankman win
Boundman failed vs Kata, so Oda made snakeman win
Same thing here will happen, Boundman fails and new Gear 4 will do the job
 
#58
He failed !
He didn't KO Kaido there and g4 ran out
No form of Luffy's is going to KO a fresh Kaido in 30 minutes. I don't care what animal you think he's using or what Haki he's imbuing.

By your logic even the "new form" would fail. Big Mom "failed" 400 times over then.



ACoA Luffy did WAYYYYY better than Big Mom. Some failure.
 
#59
No form of Luffy's is going to KO a fresh Kaido in 30 minutes. I don't care what animal you think he's using or what Haki he's imbuing.

By your logic even the "new form" would fail. Big Mom "failed" 400 times over then.



ACoA Luffy did WAYYYYY better than Big Mom. Some failure.
:milaugh:
You compared 1v1 to a group fight where kaido was in zoan mode not being serious?
We know he blocks, dodges and counterattack in 1v1 against someone who's strong enough.

1v1 Kaido oneshotted G4, 1v1 Kaido beat Luffy twice on the rooftop

Base/hybrid kaido has 3 Ws over Luffy in their 1v1
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You been salty for years
Boundman can't beat anyone skilled or way powerful
Doffy was just too weak... your live for doffy has blinded you to wank Boundman like Luffy
 
#60
I would love Luffy Tigerman to have rubber claws hardened by haki scarring Kaido just to see the reaction in this forum.

:suresure:

Luffy Tigerman Claws vs En-Ou Sanyoryu leszgooooooo.

:steef::steef:
 
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