What has awakened that the Gorosei are talking about?


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ConquistadoR

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Q: I read the manga and watched the anime and noticed that after Luffy uses Gear 4, he not only can’t use Haki for 10 minutes but it also carries the tradeoff (risk) of being so fatigued that he can’t move. However, in Ch 885 he is moving totally normally right? Why isn't that tradeoff there anymore? P.N. BUSHI
Oda: The tradeoff of not being able to move that you’re referring to never existed in the first place. If he wanted to move but couldn’t use Haki during that time, he could still run from place to place to hide. In Dressrosa, after using Gear 4, he coincidentally ran into his allies and supporters so he could preserve his energy while they carried him to the next fight. If those people weren’t there then Luffy would just have to do his best!
That means that Luffy was injured. Whether that injury comes from Bellamy is not specified.

He literally fought Doffy's awakening but sure Bellamy did more damage to him 🤡
 
Luffy is using Baseo form becuase Gear 4 us fundemntally flawed. It drains haki constantly. Which is why Rayleigh wanted Luffy to away with it. Which for the most oart he hae since training his bsee with seasone anfd gaining 3 advanced haki's.
This man gets it. This is what I been telling people. Luffys is going to have a fruit awakening. His fruit awakening is going to be him maintaining and using gear 4 without needing haki. Dont forget luffy needs to use armament haki to tighten his muscles after he inflates it with air. He is constantly externally and internally using armament haki to even use gear 4 hence why he runs out of haki so damn fast and has a long wait time. His awakening can help with this by being able to tighten his muscles without the need to generate haki to do so. So he wouldn't have to waste an absurd amount of haki in just sustaining the form
 
Luffy is using Baseo form becuase Gear 4 us fundemntally flawed. It drains haki constantly. Which is why Rayleigh wanted Luffy to away with it. Which for the most oart he hae since training his bsee with seasone anfd gaining 3 advanced haki's.
That isn't fundamentally flawed, staying in it for extended periods because you are otherwise outclassed is the problem.

Using it as a quick change weapon like he did against the ship, the number and in snakeman quickly against Kaido is fine. In, attack, out, unless you are 100% sure of victory.

Zoro can't stay in adv CoC mode without draining his life force, but it's still a good trump card, Law and Kidd can't control their awakenings properly etc.
 
That means that Luffy was injured. Whether that injury comes from Bellamy is not specified.

He literally fought Doffy's awakening but sure Bellamy did more damage to him 🤡
Dude I said i miswrote that. I meant to say that Doffy’s dialogue with Luffy implies that Bellamy = gamma knife while Oda implied that Luffy would win without assistance in the SBS.
 
The fighting scene sounds amazing, Kaido's haki and stats are stronger yet Luffy seems to be pulling ahead, I think it just shows even though Kaido is stronger on paper, Luffy is just a BETTER fighter, more skilled, superior instincts etc.

Kaido=BM agenda is now deep in the mud

Notice how Luffy never brings up Kaido's injuries as potential excuse for his loss, he and Kaido know they're equally injured, Luffy bringing up the excuse stuff proves he believes winning here means he has surpassed Kaido
Kaido's dialogue sounds hilarious as fuck too


He is obviously talking about their predecessors

This chapter murders the theory that the Gorosei members are some Void Century people.

They're regular old men, only Imu is immortal
Just goes on to show how these One Piece YouTubers lie about theories for some views. Recently, Mr. Morj delcared Marineford arc as biggest arc of all time. Just licking OP and milking the audience.
 
Nah Luffy is absolutely admiral level right now.
He's not Admiral level. He's Top Tier as in the pinnacle of the OP world. He's currently going toe to toe with the strongest Yonkou. To say Luffy isn't Yonkou level is absolutely retarded.

Kaido confirmed himself that he takes current Luffy more serious than he did BM when she came to Onigashima despite declaring that he'll kill her.

But yeah, Post Wano Luffy is probably beating the Three Admirals.

I'll still hold off on that opinion since Oda can clown Luffy pretty good
 
damn drunken kaido, if luffy wins this fight, I actually think luffy might be stronger than bigmom eow
I really think he's currently stronger than BM tbh. Competing against hybrid drunken master Kaidou in base, without even doing a fusion tech of CoC-G2 or CoC-G3, without even any Gear Stacking, without even explicitly showcase Internal Destruction techniques? He's just insanely strong now, now Oda's big homework is for Luffy's mentality. He's like Juggernaut...but with a brat's mentality.

Seriously if he's gonna be this strong currently, imo Luffy should just treat Cracker and Dofla like dis

 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Dude I said i miswrote that. I mean to say that Doffy’s dialogue with Luffy implies that Bellamy = gamma knife while Oda implied that Luffy would without assistance in the SBS.
Once again, Doffy only said that Luffy was injured. He never said that Luffy was as injured as him.

Unless you believe Gamma Knife = Bellamy's AP
 
Based on the context, it's pretty clear that the DF that the Goserei and Zuinesha (i'm butchering the Japanese names but whatever) is linked
As much as it seems obvious to us, Lance must be questioning it based on the paneling. I agree that it probably means they are linked, but its interesting to see how far it goes. Is it literally Zunisha? Or is it a fruit user on the island?
 
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