What has awakened that the Gorosei are talking about?


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Luffy took a Magical Nap and then went on to beat the shit out of Crocodile therefore Alabasta had zero tensions
If you want to play dumb fair enough, but don't expect others be like that. Talking about Arabasta you missed few points that Wano is lacking already:
1. Four kings guard was really killed by Croc with no coming back;
2. Case of civil war a lot of people died there, civillain and millitary and there is no prove of othervise;
3. Luffy losed to villain for the first time in series;


If you really want to compare Wano to other arc try Skypia, that people called most weak, bad arc that has a lot of false hype and really low pay off. More to that even compared to Skypia Eneru was shown much better then Kaido, who was hyped from 400+ chapters. Eneru defeated all SH except Luffy. So in the end Kaido was shown worser then god who can't kill anyone.
 

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"He's just using a stronger move"

Exactly, means he wasn't before, which means he didn't take the fight seriously. "Weakened" is subjective when he's multitasking holding an island up while also fighting Luffy. You guys act like he got 60-80% weaker the moment it became a 1v1 with Luffy lmao.

The fact that he's taking the fight "seriously" now should tell you all you need to know about this.


Edit: you guys also act like Luffy is still at 100% too. Baffling really
How is being weakened subjective? He's been weakened to the point that he can't lift the island. He's been at this nonstop while Luffy got treated and had months' worth of food. Him taking the fight seriously doesn't change that he's been weakened from fighting 1v15.
 
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Tbh, not judging the arc. Just the process of reaching the conclusion.

And almost all of the users I have interacted with here agree that Oda includes foolish and unnecessary stuff, but it can be argued that it is his way of telling the story. Personally, I don't like 1) Tama plot 2) Gathering Samurais plot 3) Big Mom 4) Big Mom kids/pirates in Wano 5) Momo getting captured and fake deaths of Kanjuro 6) Wasted chapters in Ringo 7) X-Drake and Queen plot
Then you just don’t like oda and should drop the series. Your complaints are all very unrealistic requests. These things give the arc meat and substance
 

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It's cringe that Zoro fanboys are trying so hard to downplay Kaido because Luffy's keeping him at bay in base, but let's not act like Luffy fanboys aren't getting nightmares every time Zoro does something semi-impressive and do everything in their power downplay the guy.

To both the fandoms: If you do something bad to others, don't expect them to act reasonably when it's their turn to pay back.
 
It's cringe that Zoro fanboys are trying so hard to downplay Kaido because Luffy's keeping him at bay in base, but let's not act like Luffy fanboys aren't getting nightmares every time Zoro does something semi-impressive and do everything in their power downplay the guy.

To both the fandoms: If you do something bad to others, don't expect them to act reasonably when it's their turn to pay back.
I can understand how some might have issues with Luffy matching Kaido but when a fraction of those people also have no issues with ZKK or stuff like wanting Kid to take down BM you know it's just fanbase wars, the ultimate state is recognizing Luffy > Zoro and also supporting ZKK because it would be cool and has reasonable setup.
 

Gol D. Roger

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Basically kaido told Yamato I'ma take you seriously while trolling at the same time :milaugh:
The context makes it blatantly obvious he was trying to beat her into submission and make her the Shogun of Wano. He's never had any intention of killing Yamato even though he said he would. With that being said, he wasn't holding back against her but he wasn't going all out either.
 
It's cringe that Zoro fanboys are trying so hard to downplay Kaido because Luffy's keeping him at bay in base, but let's not act like Luffy fanboys aren't getting nightmares every time Zoro does something semi-impressive and do everything in their power downplay the guy.

To both the fandoms: If you do something bad to others, don't expect them to act reasonably when it's their turn to pay back.
true....but 6 out of 10 times it starts from zoro fans and Luffy fans react and then Zoro fans react.....it became a cycle....lol.....
idi modati adyayam matrame....asalu katha ippude modalayindi.....even bigger wars going to happen....:pepecorn:
 
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