Powers & Abilities Oda did a deservice to have Sanji and Zoro jump mutiple tiers.
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It’s that simple lol. All these Zboys can’t get off their high horse and blab mental gymnastics. We have seen Zoro’s Santoryu and it was shit. He only had Ashura left to try and impress. It’s their headcanon in the first place that Zoro should be equal to Luffy when Zoro literally had nothing to show for it. Then they claim that enma, and power creeping only boosted Zoro a little bit 
You can’t give Luffy’s feats to Zoro because of your headcanon that they should be on the same level, or even worse if you think Zoro’s stronger
Stop being stuck on Luffy, and Zoro’s clash in Whiskey Peak lol. Luffy has always been stronger than Zoro in a given arc especially arcs where we see both of them fight and use new moves. I can’t wait for the same mental dances these dunces would use in upcoming years to claim that Wano Zoro was stronger than Kaido lmfao.
DR Doffy was > DR Zoro, anyone with common sense would have figured that out
Peace
You can’t give Luffy’s feats to Zoro because of your headcanon that they should be on the same level, or even worse if you think Zoro’s stronger
Stop being stuck on Luffy, and Zoro’s clash in Whiskey Peak lol. Luffy has always been stronger than Zoro in a given arc especially arcs where we see both of them fight and use new moves. I can’t wait for the same mental dances these dunces would use in upcoming years to claim that Wano Zoro was stronger than Kaido lmfao.
DR Doffy was > DR Zoro, anyone with common sense would have figured that out
Peace
Thread is infested with delusional ztards, stated in vivra card in dressorosa zoro was second to luffy meaning if luffy bearly managed to defeat him zoro most likely couldn't, they lie and live in their bubble denying the fact that enma was a huge pu and he didn't have COC at the time just to prove their shitty point that no one with a brain takes seriously, still sheeps without brains liking the comment thinking that shows them some validation when in reality they are jokes, probably desperate enough to create alts so they think people agree with them because they have more likes, kinda pathetic.
It’s a cult, they will shit on every character when it’s compared to Zoro. Can’t have decent powerscaling in most threads once they gang up lol. Even when it’s clear as day like in DR that Zoro was below Doffy and Luffy. Then again this is WG, and it is known for shit powerscaling and Zoro fanboys with high egos
Sanji literally said he trained off screen
And queen is stronger than doffy
Sanji's genes were straight up confirmed to not be human 200 chapters prior to his power up
Swords being able to absorb haki like enma were only introduced in wano
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Sure, that's why oda had sanji confirm that he was nerfing himself by limiting his flammes and is still doing that
And queen is stronger than doffy
Sanji's genes were straight up confirmed to not be human 200 chapters prior to his power up
Swords being able to absorb haki like enma were only introduced in wano
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Sure, that's why oda had sanji confirm that he was nerfing himself by limiting his flammes and is still doing that
The downplay of Zoro's DR powerlevel stems from;
> the downplay of characters like Pica, Vergo and Doflamingo.
> the delusional belief that Sanji and Zoro are equals or have similar powerlevel
Until that mistake is fixed, we will see continuous coping of how Zoro performed as well as he did in roof piece.
> the downplay of characters like Pica, Vergo and Doflamingo.
> the delusional belief that Sanji and Zoro are equals or have similar powerlevel
Until that mistake is fixed, we will see continuous coping of how Zoro performed as well as he did in roof piece.
I don’t even think it’s Pica it’s just pure Sanji fan cope. They try to stick Sanji and Zoro together as equals or close to equals with outlandish interpretations of the manga.
For example:
Somehow Sanji beating Queen makes him stronger than King. While Zoro beating King puts him in the same tier.
Another example is people saying King and Queen are equal despite Oda stating King is stronger in his Vivre Card.
Most Sanji fans either downplay Zoro or overhype Sanji in an attempt to say they are similar in power. When the manga clearly shows us different.
Zoro has fought the main villain in multiple arcs Sanji has never done it. That’s shows that Zoro is closer to Luffy than he is to Sanji.
For example:
Somehow Sanji beating Queen makes him stronger than King. While Zoro beating King puts him in the same tier.
Another example is people saying King and Queen are equal despite Oda stating King is stronger in his Vivre Card.
Most Sanji fans either downplay Zoro or overhype Sanji in an attempt to say they are similar in power. When the manga clearly shows us different.
Zoro has fought the main villain in multiple arcs Sanji has never done it. That’s shows that Zoro is closer to Luffy than he is to Sanji.
Where and when did he do that? This is exactly what I mean by Sanji fans and their headcannon. We know Zoro trained his haki in Wano off screen because we got glimpses of it same with Luffy.
When did we get anything regarding Sanji training at all in Wano? He fought Page One and wore the RS, then save Tama in the RS which somehow awakened his Germa genetic powers.
The fact that Sanji fans make shit up in order to put him on the level of Zoro actually makes him look weaker.
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It’s a reach. Why would Sanji be the only SH to train off screen in Wano without any clear reference to the training?
When did we get anything regarding Sanji training at all in Wano? He fought Page One and wore the RS, then save Tama in the RS which somehow awakened his Germa genetic powers.
The fact that Sanji fans make shit up in order to put him on the level of Zoro actually makes him look weaker.
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It’s a reach. Why would Sanji be the only SH to train off screen in Wano without any clear reference to the training?
He said if he pairs his exoskeleton with his armament haki training, he should be able to withstand hotter flames. “Armament haki training” could easily mean what he learned from Iva. Like I said, it’s open to interpretation but I think he meant his 2 year training personally so to me, that line doesn’t prove that he trained it in wano
I definitely think Oda could have handled the straw hats progression better. Problem is that for most of post-timeskip he only focused on Luffy's growth. Sanji's first actual fight and W in the New World is against a YC2 (I ain't counting ambiguous off-screen stuff like P1), kind of odd. It would have been nice if Oda let him beat a high level vet fighter like Perospero in WCI.
But the worst offender that will cause a shitstorm in the entire is fandom didn't happen yet.
Imagine if the weaklings manage to take down BB's captains in 1 vs 1 when Oda has been refusing to let them beat anybody above fodder level for the entirety of the post-timeskip, an entire decade.
But the worst offender that will cause a shitstorm in the entire is fandom didn't happen yet.
Imagine if the weaklings manage to take down BB's captains in 1 vs 1 when Oda has been refusing to let them beat anybody above fodder level for the entirety of the post-timeskip, an entire decade.