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Luffy > kid and law
Wth is happen, MC got suddenly power up even his last class got overwelm.
Cant wait till the end of this arc, i still csnt believe luffy will win fighting kaido.
I hopw zoro is alright and got new power after defeat the shinigami lol.
 
Bruh, Luffy is defeating a Yonko who has sustained a massive amount of damage already. That's a far cry from Big Mom, who has suffered barely a handful of attacks that caused any real significant damage. The gap between Kaido and Big Mom is not that huge. Luffy is far and above the strength of current Law and Kid, and he still hasn't even showcased his new abilities in G4, outside of one attack from Snakeman.

You really believe that Law and Kid, who are pretty much on deaths door at the moment, are going to be capable of reaching G4 + AdCoC, +AdCoA + AdCoO status, in order to beat Big Mom, with their awakening?

What kind of shit would that be? Oda puts Kaido through the ringer by 20 different characters, but relatively fresh going into the 2v1 Big Mom gets beaten by two characters, and a handful of awakening attacks?
That’s your fault for severely underestimating Kidd and Law. Kaido went through dozens of characters but they were pretty much fodder to him. Scabbards and Yamato did negligible damage, Kidd and Law‘s attacks are way deadlier. Law is a given hax, and Oda is portraying Kidd to have comparable AP.

Kaido is the stronger yonko, and Luffy by the time he beats Kaido is a certified top tier. Whatever new form he has and more mastery of aCoC means Big Mom will present no threat to the Straw hats anymore. Big Mom is fresh but let’s not act like Kaido’s AP has depleted. His haki was even getting stronger confirmed, and Luffy has been matching that AP. Big Mom will definitely go down this arc, plain and simple. Kid and Law are supernovas and semi-main characters, do you really expect them to lose this?
 
Bruh, Luffy is defeating a Yonko who has sustained a massive amount of damage already. That's a far cry from Big Mom, who has suffered barely a handful of attacks that caused any real significant damage. The gap between Kaido and Big Mom is not that huge. Luffy is far and above the strength of current Law and Kid, and he still hasn't even showcased his new abilities in G4, outside of one attack from Snakeman.

You really believe that Law and Kid, who are pretty much on deaths door at the moment, are going to be capable of reaching G4 + AdCoC, +AdCoA + AdCoO status, in order to beat Big Mom, with their awakening?

What kind of shit would that be? Oda puts Kaido through the ringer by 20 different characters, but relatively fresh going into the 2v1 Big Mom gets beaten by two characters, and a handful of awakening attacks?
The gap between kaido and big mom is not that huge, but they have different stats. Kaido is a mythical zoan, stamina/durability/endurance is his forte.

their awakenings have dominated Linlin every time they used them, they have done serious damage and they have forced linlin to sacrifice her lifespan to power up and even still she couldn't defeat them. They are 1 power up away from beating her. If awakening alone could do this much to linlin, they would destroy her if they were to awaken ACoA.

This fight is a high diff for linlin and I cannot think of a single time when an antagonist was pushed to high diff by an ally, towards the finale of the arc, and the ally just loses. Maybe it happened in marienford, I wouldn't really count that.
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"You know what maybe I'll just stall Big Mom until Kaido is defeated."
he never even said that lmao

this just one more of a host of anti-kid arguments that are nonsensical. If linlin doesn't fall, the allies lose. It literally makes no difference if they stall her until kaido is defeated only to ultimately lose in the end.
 
Nothing against Kid but:

Kid: "I'm going to defeat Shanks>>>>"Ok screw Shanks, I'm going to defeat Kaido.>>>>"Kaido is a bit too much and Luffy is handling him, so I'm going to defeat Big Mom instead.">>>>"You know what maybe I'll just stall Big Mom until Kaido is defeated."
once you said "but " I knew you werent going to rate him
at the very least the fight should be allowed to finish before judgement .
talking a whole lot of trash and being overly confident is something both he and luffy share ;I have come to look at kidd as a more realistic outcome of the pair .
 
That’s your fault for severely underestimating Kidd and Law. Kaido went through dozens of characters but they were pretty much fodder to him. Scabbards and Yamato did negligible damage, Kidd and Law‘s attacks are way deadlier. Law is a given hax, and Oda is portraying Kidd to have comparable AP.

Kaido is the stronger yonko, and Luffy by the time he beats Kaido is a certified top tier. Whatever new form he has and more mastery of aCoC means Big Mom will present no threat to the Straw hats anymore. Big Mom is fresh but let’s not act like Kaido’s AP has depleted. His haki was even getting stronger confirmed, and Luffy has been matching that AP. Big Mom will definitely go down this arc, plain and simple. Kid and Law are supernovas and semi-main characters, do you really expect them to lose this?
There is nothing to underestimate. They simply aren't at that level yet, and Oda giving them awakening doesn't change that.

Not to mention Oda has not setup up a single plotline to where Big Mom falling here is detrimental to the Story moving forward, like every other Villain under the sun gets.

I honestly don't see how people could accept Big Mom falling as some random side character after we had to sit through two years of antagonistic buildup of her character to the Straw Hats on WCI. All that hype and build up of the Straw Hats one day liberating WCI, tossed down the drain because people want to get their rocks off over Kid and Law beating Big Mom here and now.
 
Pretty much, Kid has said multiple times that he wants to defeat Kaido and then suddenly he changes his mind and goes after Big Mom and says he wants to defeat her, and now in this chapter it seems like instead of defeating her he just wants to stall her and prevent her from going to the roof.
:goyea: BM will be stalled, because Kidd and Law dnt have much left in the tank to defeat her. Im surprised they can keep going, but Im sure that was their last hoorah. No senzu medicine for those two
 
There is nothing to underestimate. They simply aren't at that level yet, and Oda giving them awakening doesn't change that.

Not to mention Oda has not setup up a single plotline to where Big Mom falling here is detrimental to the Story moving forward, like every other Villain under the sun gets.

I honestly don't see how people could accept Big Mom falling as some random side character after we had to sit through two years of antagonistic buildup of her character to the Straw Hats on WCI. All that hype and build up of the Straw Hats one day liberating WCI, tossed down the drain because people want to get their rocks off over Kid and Law beating Big Mom here and now.
Do you never get tired of being wrong on this over and over? You made the same arguments about commanders.

“Do you really think Queen is going to be defeated like that?” Yes, yes. I do.

This is the Yonko Saga and it’s been 140 chapters long. Guess what happens in the Yonko Saga? Yonko get defeated. Big Mom is irrelevant after Kaido and so is her crew. Hawkins already predicted her downfall and Kid/Law reiterated it.
 
Do you never get tired of being wrong on this over and over? You made the same arguments about commanders.

“Do you really think Queen is going to be defeated like that?” Yes, yes. I do.

This is the Yonko Saga and it’s been 140 chapters long. Guess what happens in the Yonko Saga? Yonko get defeated. Big Mom is irrelevant after Kaido and so is her crew. Hawkins already predicted her downfall and Kid/Law reiterated it.
Yeah sure. Irrelevant when her entire backstory, and a bulk of her character arc during WCI was dedicated to having an unfinished history with Elbaf. Oda just threw that in there for shits and giggles.
 
I really hope you guys aren't setting up yourselves for disappointment. The dude is about to take 2x damage from the drug after taking damage from 2 Yonko and King already.
Again if oda wanted to portray that he would not have zoro subconsciously fight a grim reaper. Its literally the personification of zoro fighting through his overdose of pain. If oda wanted to portray zoro being done have him fully unconscious and give zero focus oh him going further
 
Yeah sure. Irrelevant when her entire backstory was dedicated to having an unfinished history with Elbaf. Oda just threw that in there for shits and giggles.
Dude no one gives a fuck about Elbaf because with Odas timeline it won’t be a Wano-type arc. Oda said 5 years, years ago. It’ll be a side arc at the best, related to Raftel. We don’t have another 4 years to spend on Elbaf. Maybe a Davy back fight with Shanks’ crew for Usopp to get his shine.

In Wano, the old Gen of Rox falls to the new Gen of Supernovas. That’s the entire point.
 
Again if oda wanted to portray that he would not have zoro subconsciously fight a grim reaper. Its literally the personification of zoro fighting through his overdose of pain. If oda wanted to portray zoro being done have him fully unconscious and give zero focus oh him going further
There is zero indication he's fighting anyone. He literally can't move. There is strong indication the Shinigami has to do with him being close to death and the fire festival revealing spirits. It's really not that complicated
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Dude no one gives a fuck about Elbaf because with Odas timeline it won’t be a Wano-type arc. Oda said 5 years, years ago. It’ll be a side arc at the best, related to Raftel. We don’t have another 4 years to spend on Elbaf. Maybe a Davy back fight with Shanks’ crew for Usopp to get his shine.

In Wano, the old Gen of Rox falls to the new Gen of Supernovas. That’s the entire point.
Watch Elbaf be another 100 chapter arc:rosismile:
 
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