Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1039 Spoilers Discussion

[Ssg super suit coby]

Manga suggests you NEED ACoC for King? So Rooftop Luffy would lose to King? Law and Kid would lose to King?

Your King wank has reached new levels of stupid.

Kidd would lose though since again king would just burn all of his metal to cinders. No metal means no attack from kidd. Dont know why that's complicated to understand

 

[Gol D. Roger]

I don’t understand why you’re acting like King is anywhere close to BM

I said literally nothing about King in that post.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Why's Shock Wille more devastating than COC attacks? They both do literally the same thing with the exception being that Luffy's attacks force their way through Kaido's defense, which is no longer an issue due to COC's inclusion. Kaido's durability is indeed on another level to Big Mom. I don't even understand why people are acting like Big Mom is as durable as Kaido.

I thought Kaido's durability was entirely tied to his Oni species. Yamato clearly has the same durability too combined with her ice armor.

I agree that BM was never noted for having the same Tenacity/durability as Kaido. Her iron balloon defense has nothing to do with soaking damage once it's bypassed. Kaido on the otherhand has constantly been bloody since 986 and continues to fight.

 

[S.W317]

Current Law and Kidd are stronger than Zoro

 

[Monkey D Theories]

king would just burn all of his metal to cinders

metal doesn't work that way

also Kid's been fighting Linlin for all this while and she was even spamming explosions last chapter and yet she never melted his metal. Which means kid's invisible haki is likely strong enough to protect his metal.

 

[park_min young]

The entire Whitebeard Pirates lose to King. They have no ACoC.

These are the same idiots that makes Oda need to write “BM broke her bones” panels to make sure Kidd did damage lmfao. Reading a kid’s manga is like calculus for some people

 

[HA001]

I thought Kaido's durability was entirely tied to his Oni species. Yamato clearly has the same durability too combined with her ice armor.

I agree that BM was never noted for having the same Tenacity/durability as Kaido. Her iron balloon defense has nothing to do with soaking damage once it's bypassed. Kaido on the otherhand has constantly been bloody since 986.

They beat her with what ? 6 on panel attacks ?

She ain't comparable to kaido

 

[Franosuke]

Manga suggests you NEED ACoC for King? So Rooftop Luffy would lose to King? Law and Kid would lose to King?

Your King wank has reached new levels of stupid.

I don't think you specifically need ACoC to deal with King.

You need either genuine top tier AP or a way to properly bypass his flame-on defense.

As far as pre-ACoC Luffy goes, I don't see how he would be able to damage flame-on King. It seemed like his internal destruction proficiency was either not good enough to properly damage Kaido...whether or not it would work on King is debatable

I stand by what I've said about King before:

He is fodder for top tiers to deal with, but nearly impossible for high tiers

 

[Paperchampion23]

They beat her with what ? 6 on panel attacks ?

She ain't comparable to kaido

That's what I said

 

[Monkey D Theories]

That's what the manga suggests. Not even the attacks that worked on Kaido didn't work on King. Blame Oda for it.

because Zoro attacked king when his flames were up

 

[ShishioIsBack]

They are definitely much closer than you estimated them to be in the past. Luffy, Law, Kid, and Zoro are grouped together by Oda in that they are the only ones to have these near death fights with top tiers(and actually be successful).

Maybe the only thing is when it comes to world wide achievements Luffy got to beat Kaido Law and Kidd got to have half a role each in beating Big Mom and Zoro only got to beat King.

Despite taming Enma, scarring Kaido, unlocking advCoC, king of hell, when it's all said and done world would only remember who he beat.

Would his bounty mention him blocking Hakai?? Scarring Kaido??

Would be nice if for once Zoro got the achievements rather than just feats

 

[HA001]

That's what I said

Lies. You love bbws.

 

[sanjikun]

I don't think you specifically need ACoC to deal with King.

You need either genuine top tier AP or a way to properly bypass his flame-on defense.

As far as pre-ACoC Luffy goes, I don't see how he would be able to damage flame-on King. It seemed like his internal destruction proficiency was either not good enough to properly damage Kaido...whether or not it would work on King is debatable

I stand by what I've said about King before:

He is fodder for top tiers to deal with, but nearly impossible for high tiers

All your arguments about King can be applied to Bartolomeo.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Zoro literally mutilated King without even using Ashura or Sanzen Sekai.

Even a basic Sanzen Sekai or Ashura would have KOed him without taking off his wing.

Yeah, you know Zoro's attacks better than Zoro.

 

[sanjikun]

Yeah, you know Zoro's attacks better than Zoro.

"basic" = no ACoC

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Would be nice if for once Zoro got the achievements rather than just feats

Zoro's like jon snow

he's meant to serve, not to rule, however he still has qualities of a king

 

[HA001]

"basic" = no ACoC

Hes not beating King with no acoc. Lmfao that was the whole point

 

[Paperchampion23]

Lies. You love bbws.

Only if the booty counts

 

[The White Crane]

I’ve seen some other people say this too. Where are y’all getting this from? I’m actually curious. Where was it said or even implied that Laws attacks are doing anything more than just damaging Big Mom? I don’t understand where this whole “Law is weakening Big Mom and making her vulnerable for Kidd” is coming from.

While I see your point, I think there is at least a solid ground to be made here to accept that Law's damaging Meme's internal organs made it easier for Kidd to break her bones via blunt force, which ordinarily wouldn't have been possible. After all, any damage to internal organs will always directly affect the stability of your health, especially in a high-risk situation like this fight.

Then again, I see this fight as a combo of Law's internal damages + Kidd's external damages, anyway, so if you think differently, that is also understandable.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

because Zoro attacked king when his flames were up

Zoro never hurt him without COC when his flames were off. Oda needed to make King lose his defense to make him lose even against COC Zoro when pre-COC Zoro was threatening BM and Kaido. That should make a point.