Future Events Sanji will fight both Kizaru and Greenbull?!

Will Sanji fight Kizaru and Greenbull at some point?


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#41
Zoro's also the only strawhat named by anyone as first mate in the story, but no the colour spread is infinitely more significant than one set of panels. Every person in that spread is first mate, barring shiryu potentially since we haven't seen BB's full lineup yet, so safe to assume first mate == first commander. If you think Sanji's first mate you're delusional.
delusional. We know bb first titanic commander and it's not shiryu
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There's an SBS answer where Oda heavily implies that the other two admirals (Sakazuki and Borsalino) were even stronger than Kuzan.
Link?
 
#45
Very compelling argument man, shame you ignored the rest of the colour spread. Debunk Rayleigh, Beckman and the rest and you're well on your way to refuting Zoro as the clear first mate. Still need a less hilarious argument in Sanji's favour, though.
Bruh it's in the manga. Idk what more you want. Canon>>>a color spread

We know who bb 1st titanic captain is. And it isn't shiryu. So unless you're making a distinction between 1yc and first mate then you are wrong.
 
#46
Bruh it's in the manga. Idk what more you want. Canon>>>a color spread

We know who bb 1st titanic captain is. And it isn't shiryu. So unless you're making a distinction between 1yc and first mate then you are wrong.
Even if we go with manga-only material, like I said, Zoro's been called the first mate by two people off the top of my head. If there're any Sanji mentions let me know.
 
#47
Even if we go with manga-only material, like I said, Zoro's been called the first mate by two people off the top of my head. If there're any Sanji mentions let me know.
Lmao they said it's surprising he's not captain and Barto said he's the vice captain of the shs.

Those outside the sh don't dictate what goes on. We've seen side characters say stuff that wasn't true plenty of times throughout the series.

Thats like queen calling sanji the 2nd strongest of the crew. It's not reliable as info

Manga and odas super intentional and clear parralels especially with his paneling>>>your headcanon
 
#48
Imo, Kizaru will be reserved for Luffy. This will happen first, ideally with Vegapunk, Kuma and the Marine Science Division/SSG. This way like how Luffy fought a YC before Sanji and Zoro did, he will fight an Admiral before Zoro and Sanji do with Fuji and Ryokugyuu while he fights Akainu
 
#49
Lmao they said it's surprising he's not captain and Barto said he's the vice captain of the shs.

Those outside the sh don't dictate what goes on. We've seen side characters say stuff that wasn't true plenty of times throughout the series.

Thats like queen calling sanji the 2nd strongest of the crew. It's not reliable as info

Manga and odas super intentional and clear parralels especially with his paneling>>>your headcanon
Your willful ignorance is crazy to me. Oda chooses panelling like he decides on what characters say. You're acting that Oda didn't have Urouge call Zoro first mate out loud. Those outside the strawhats don't decide sure, Oda does. Oda hasn't made this close at all. Zoro's matchups almost always have close relationships to Luffy's, third strongest don't compare. Then there's the fact that Zoro has qualities of a captain to the point that others mistake him for one, his parallels with Rayleigh, the fact that he the only other SH with conqueror's haki. lmao why would Zoro fight King while the first mate who ranks higher than him fights the one named Queen? If it were the other way around you'd be adamant that Sanji's first mate.

Was there a chapter where those inside the crew decided on the first mate? No? Then we go by the most likely candidate, which is obviously Zoro.
 
#50
Imo, Kizaru will be reserved for Luffy. This will happen first, ideally with Vegapunk, Kuma and the Marine Science Division/SSG. This way like how Luffy fought a YC before Sanji and Zoro did, he will fight an Admiral before Zoro and Sanji do with Fuji and Ryokugyuu while he fights Akainu
I think Kizaru is saved for Blackbeard in all fairness. Blackbeard needs to prove himself above the admiral on his crew.
 
#52
Imo, Kizaru will be reserved for Luffy. This will happen first, ideally with Vegapunk, Kuma and the Marine Science Division/SSG. This way like how Luffy fought a YC before Sanji and Zoro did, he will fight an Admiral before Zoro and Sanji do with Fuji and Ryokugyuu while he fights Akainu
I like this theory, though I guess Oda would have to find a way to make Fujitora a bad guy again.
 
#53
I think Kizaru is saved for Blackbeard in all fairness. Blackbeard needs to prove himself above the admiral on his crew.
Imo I don't think Blackbeard needs to take out other characters and villains. He gained notoriety by his actions on a grander scale. He became a Yonko purely by stealing WBs power and knowing his territories.

He doesn't need to prove he's above anyone except Luffy when the time comes. What will probably make him more dangerous than Kaido will be his 3rd DF in combination with the others, along with what I believe is Pluton that he's going after.

No need to have him kill off Shanks or Admirals who deserve bigger screentime than that
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I like this theory, though I guess Oda would have to find a way to make Fujitora a bad guy again.
I don't think "Bad" is really the right term for certain fights tbh. He's just going to do his military duty and serve as an obstruction. In 956, he was still very clear with Akainu about wanting to take down Pirates, since he believes the SSG are perfect for it.

Fujitora likes Luffy for sure, but it doesn't mean he won't stand in their way when the time comes.
 
#54
Imo I don't think Blackbeard needs to take out other characters and villains. He gained notoriety by his actions on a grander scale. He became a Yonko purely by stealing WBs power and knowing his territories.

He doesn't need to prove he's above anyone except Luffy when the time comes. What will probably make him more dangerous than Kaido will be his 3rd DF in combination with the others, along with what I believe is Pluton that he's going after.

No need to have him kill off Shanks or Admirals who deserve bigger screentime than that
I mean the point of Blackbeard (in my opinion) is to draw a foil to Luffy. As such watching his rise to fame and grow in power is very important as such seeing Blackbeard defeat an admiral (especially a blander one like Kizaru) and an emperor (especially one with such a connection to Luffy) is important in the story
 
#55
I think Sanji wont fight Kizaru

Im 99% sure that Zoro will fight Fujitora, and Sanji will fight Greenbull, especially given their "duo/rivalry" dynamic that Oda likes to stick with Zoro and Sanji's opponents.

I bet Oda has other plans for Kizaru, and i think it will have something do to with fighting Teach.

Sakazuki will be the only one remaining from the Old Admiral Trio because Oda wants to make him much more "special" compared to the rest (quite clearly), especially cuz he is going to fight Luffy
 
#56
I mean the point of Blackbeard (in my opinion) is to draw a foil to Luffy. As such watching his rise to fame and grow in power is very important as such seeing Blackbeard defeat an admiral (especially a blander one like Kizaru) and an emperor (especially one with such a connection to Luffy) is important in the story
I don't agree lol. I don't think seeing BB perform combative feats matter outside of battling Luffy. Like it literally does not service the story until we see him just wrecking Luffy anyway. It's not like we needed to see Kaido/BM do this. And at most with Shanks, we got him clashing with others or stopping wars.

Blackbeard does not need to take out characters in the plot to stay powerful or relevant.

But we'll see i guess. Right now he's going after something, not someone.
 
#57
I don't agree lol. I don't think seeing BB perform combative feats matter outside of battling Luffy. Like it literally does not service the story until we see him just wrecking Luffy anyway. It's not like we needed to see Kaido/BM do this. And at most with Shanks, we got him clashing with others or stopping wars.

Blackbeard does not need to take out characters in the plot to stay powerful or relevant.

But we'll see i guess. Right now he's going after something, not someone.
Shanks Kaido and Big Mom aren’t foils to Luffy. Blackbeard is.

It’s not combat feats, it’s Blackbeard’s growth in his power in his bounty and in his importance in the world till he became a the final obstacle for Luffys dream of being the pirate king
 
#58
Shanks Kaido and Big Mom aren’t foils to Luffy. Blackbeard is.

It’s not combat feats, it’s Blackbeard’s growth in his power in his bounty and in his importance in the world till he became a the final obstacle for Luffys dream of being the pirate king
Let's just agree to disagree because I do not believe Blackbeard needs to do anything outside of finding Pluton or performing some big event to be dangerous. I don't believe he needs to take out other characters in the story.
 
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