General & Others Long Time One Piece Readers: Has the One Piece fandom ever been this much in shambles?

Is the One Piece fandom in the worst state it has ever been?

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Indigo

#81
#81
Jet Pistol said:
Are you saying Chopper and Brook would have survived if Pedro didn't kill himself?

I guess Chopper should've deserved death for invading Big Mom territory.
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No, they would've died and that would be Perospero's choice / fault, then it would make sense to go after him.

But he wasn't the one that killed Pedro or forced him to kill himself, Pedro could've stopped Perospero with whatever way he decided, but he was the one that chose suicide / explosion, not Perospero.
 
Jet Pistol

Jet Pistol

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#82
#82
PizzaBread said:
No, they would've died and that would be Perospero's choice / fault, then it would make sense to go after him.

But he wasn't the one that killed Pedro or forced him to kill himself, Pedro could've stopped Perospero with whatever way he decided, but he was the one that chose suicide / explosion, not Perospero.
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:okay:
 
Monkey D Theories

Monkey D Theories

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#83
#83
Punk Rotten said:
The problem with your debate is that this is based on your own preference. I agree things are long but that’s the point of the series. Trying to be the magnum opus of adventure shonen manga as a whole. It’s grand like this intentionally. Now whether it’s always done well by Oda, the grandiose story telling is another thing altogether.
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This whole magnum opus idea plays into the "Goda" talk. Basically people presume that One Piece's length isn't due to Oda's financial incentive but rather because he's some super smart genius and that all of this is part of his plan. irl, the vs Yonko saga should have been the meat of the post skip and Oda wasted 6 years on set up arcs before arriving at the saga. At which it was evident that there were a lot of things about the vs yonko saga that was poorly thought out.

fishman island came out on the heels of marineford, which was when one piece was at its peak. Oda saw how high the sales were and thought that he could legitimately do this forever.
 
Paperchampion23

Paperchampion23

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#87
#87
It really hasn't gotten worse than ZKK and Zoro vs Sanji arguments.

I'm actually afraid for this fandom if ZKK doesn't actually happen. The amount of "shit writing" "oda is a hack" "fuck this manga" cope posts are going to be off the wall bad.
 
shanksisevil111

shanksisevil111

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#88
#88
I think a big part of the controversy stems from Oda's announcement that One Piece is almost over, ending in only 5 years.
Sure, we've heard it will end soon before, but we never really believed it until now where Oda is taking the initiative.
I think in a way both sides of the controversy surrounding OP's quality are coming to terms with the fact that the series are ending.

Also, OP not being the top dog sales wise is a first in a while.
 
kom5

kom5

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#90
#90
Oda hyped the yonko since water 7 now he dropped 15 years if hype in a few years

The readers dropped the manga that's the decline

If he would at least make it like OPM the sales would be at 20 million range

The merchandising would sale better


Also the anime is a bad point it's like whinnie poh animation poorly animated the sequences aren't fluently

To think the juggernaut OP would end this way its a pity
 
shanksisevil111

shanksisevil111

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#91
#91
Does anyone who can read japanese explain how wano is being recieved in Japan? We don't have anything to go off besides sales, and I think a lot of people would be curious.
 
Jet Pistol

Jet Pistol

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#92
#92
Paperchampion23 said:
It really hasn't gotten worse than ZKK and Zoro vs Sanji arguments.

I'm actually afraid for this fandom if ZKK doesn't actually happen. The amount of "shit writing" "oda is a hack" "fuck this manga" cope posts are going to be off the wall bad.
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Yamato already punctured their little bubble. And then Law and Kidd. Sanji never had it good so his fans can still enjoy the story. But Zoro fans' situation is entirely different ball game.

Some times I wonder if I am reading same manga these guys reading. :catcry:
 
Bepo

Bepo

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#94
#94
The OP community has reached insane levels of cuckoldery in the last couple of years. I remember reading Dressrosa weekly when people were still criticizing and being honest about the series. If you were to look at the OP community on Reddit or YT now it seems like the fans have elevated this series to an insane degree, some going as far as seeing that OP is the peak of fiction.
Just look at someone like Sawyer7mage, someone who rarely criticizes OP, let alone any other series. A couple of years ago he made a video bashing MHA but took it down due to the backlash from the community, it shows just how little backbone he has. Gladly it was reuploaded by someone else;

:milaugh:
 
sprolololo

sprolololo

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#96
#96
I recall more people, myself included, outright quiting the series during Dressrosa.
I think Punk Hazard might have been all-around more hated by different websites.
 
Rednick

Rednick

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#97
#97
People things are much simplier than they seem. In reality one piece is in exact same position as star wars. Lucas recently said that star wars was always meant for kids. So the kids of the 80ties loved star wars bc it was written for them. These kids grew up though and when episode 1 was first released they were under the minsonception that George Lucas' still targeted their group. But lucas' targeted group was always the same. Meaning kids. So these grown up fans rejected the prequels as they thought they were bad films. In reality though they were just kid movies and was nothing bad about them. And i realised at some point that i loved the prequels as a kid but not anymore.
The same is happening with one piece right now. The only difference is that oda's targeted group is not kids but teens. And that its not gonna change. So we ll never see things like many deaths bc thats not oda's plan and it ll never gonna be. The writer isnt going to change his writing style after 25 years. So instead of complaining, we should accept one piece as it is, with all its flaws bc in the end of the day its still a really good story.
 
Monkey D Theories

Monkey D Theories

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#98
#98
Rednick said:
People things are much simplier than they seem. In reality one piece is in exact same position as star wars. Lucas recently said that star wars was always meant for kids. So the kids of the 80ties loved star wars bc it was written for them. These kids grew up though and when episode 1 was first released they were under the minsonception that George Lucas' still targeted their group. But lucas' targeted group was always the same. Meaning kids. So these grown up fans rejected the prequels as they thought they were bad films. In reality though they were just kid movies and was nothing bad about them. And i realised at some point that i loved the prequels as a kid but not anymore.
The same is happening with one piece right now. The only difference is that oda's targeted group is not kids but teens. And that its not gonna change. So we ll never see things like many deaths bc thats not oda's plan and it ll never gonna be. The writer isnt going to change his writing style after 25 years. So instead of complaining, we should accept one piece as it is, with all its flaws bc in the end of the day its still a really good story.
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Oda deadass tries to appeal his manga to 12 year olds. I see no other reason why he is this hesitant to kill characters when other shonen do it all the time.
 
sprolololo

sprolololo

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#99
#99
Like many of the previous posters have said, there is a generational divide in the OP community. I think the older fans of the series are very burnt-out compared to fans who started reading 10+ years ago. I love One Piece, but I have been reading it for 13 years. It’s difficult not to be critical of its low-points.
I assume a good number of Worsgen users lurk or post in the 4ch and 5ch OP generals and threads. Wano is not well-liked among those crowds. It is not even well-liked from the limited number of I’ve seen about it on girl 4ch.
Anything from an anonymous imageboard should be read with a grain (or large grain) of salt, but I tend to trust the overall consensus for older fans on those websites a little more than Reddit or Twitter.
There are many fans on Reddit and Twitter who sped-read the series during COVID quarantines and lockdowns, which might attribute their lack of burnout and criticism. Also, I think it is worth pointing out that some newer fans don’t actually read the entire series up to Wano. Instead, they listen to or read summaries of previous arcs. Since the series is so long, this is pretty understandable. However, it makes newer readers less critical of the current story arc.
Interestingly, I have encountered a similar trend among the ASOIAF community on Reddit and Tumblr.
 
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