General & Others The Great Debate - Will Luffy Solo Kaido this Arc?
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He is. Luffy stated he wants Kaido and beat himself. Nah Zoro respect Luffy own fights and shouldn't be babysitter to save him. Luffy fight his own fights. Zoro got no business there. Talking about characters' personality and plus it's a War and Zoro will have his hands full with others.
Then guess Momo is cutting Kaido too since Oden use both blades, not one. He emphasize them both.
Zoro not touching him and will get knockout the moment he try it as Kaido won't be taken lightly as last time.
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Then guess Momo is cutting Kaido too since Oden use both blades, not one. He emphasize them both.
Zoro not touching him and will get knockout the moment he try it as Kaido won't be taken lightly as last time.
Zoro will never beat Sanji with anything less than high diff. That's the way it's always been. Sanji got no diffed by Doffy. Saying Zoro was "Y1C" in Dressrosa is absolute nonsense.
Luffy was Y1C as seen by his match with Katakuri. Zoro was never on that level until Enma. It's absurd to suggest otherwise.
You mean this Zoro?
This is Zoro's level
Zoro's next fight IS King. Some of you late comers to this that have 0 clue how to power scale, that denied this shit to begin with, come around and spew nonsense.
Luffy was Y1C as seen by his match with Katakuri. Zoro was never on that level until Enma. It's absurd to suggest otherwise.
You mean this Zoro?
This is Zoro's level
Zoro's next fight IS King. Some of you late comers to this that have 0 clue how to power scale, that denied this shit to begin with, come around and spew nonsense.
WCI Luffy: I want to surpass you I want to surpaas you I want to surpass you (you = Katakuri / YC1 level -> I want to surpass YC1)
Sanjikun: DR Luffy was YC1.
Based on the fact that Momo refused the sword he was given he won't be cutting Kaido. You have no argument there.
You think that Zoro it's going to play around with Kaido like he did with Killer and not take all surrounding threat serious. We saw what happened when Kappa attacked him while he was distracted fighting. That was pre Emna training. Zoro still has become the second coming Ryuma. Zoro won't go down easy he never has and never will.
You think that Zoro it's going to play around with Kaido like he did with Killer and not take all surrounding threat serious. We saw what happened when Kappa attacked him while he was distracted fighting. That was pre Emna training. Zoro still has become the second coming Ryuma. Zoro won't go down easy he never has and never will.
I think it will effectively be a 1v1 in that no other character, except for maybe Zoro, will be able to actually do anything to Kaido and that any help Luffy gets with kaido won't actually be other characters putting in work against kaido but rather them simply stalling kaido so that luffy can regain his haki.
Also I don't think that Zoro will do nearly as much damage as Oden did to kaido. Given that he's yet to have a solid 1v1 in the new world, I think most of Zoro's endeavor's in wano will be against king.
Also I don't think that Zoro will do nearly as much damage as Oden did to kaido. Given that he's yet to have a solid 1v1 in the new world, I think most of Zoro's endeavor's in wano will be against king.
Tho tbh, I don't see what it so implausible about Luffy having a legitimate 1v1 with Kaido. Yes, he was 1 shot, but I don't see why this is such a big deal. The whole "luffy is becoming too strong too fast" argument doesn't really work because Luffy has consistently defeated people who were twice his age.
Luffy was 1 shot 2 weeks ago and by every single indicator, he is far stronger now. Current Luffy is legitimately 5th emperor. Given how much ACoA has been hyped , with Hyogoro thinking that Luffy could block Big Mom's punches in base form with this ability mastered, I can see luffy even being stronger than base Kaido, albeit that might be stretching it a bit.
ACoA+improved FS+ improved base strength should make Luffy a low top tier.
Given that there is so much of wano left to uncover, Its very possible that Luffy could get a second power up. If this happens, Luffy will undoubtedly be able to 1v1 kaido.
I feel like the only reason Oda gave Kaido the whole "always bet on Kaido in a 1v1" thing was specifically so that Luffy could beat him 1v1.
also, I don't think this ruins the rest of One piece because IM and Blackbeard could easily be FAR stronger than Kaido.
Luffy was 1 shot 2 weeks ago and by every single indicator, he is far stronger now. Current Luffy is legitimately 5th emperor. Given how much ACoA has been hyped , with Hyogoro thinking that Luffy could block Big Mom's punches in base form with this ability mastered, I can see luffy even being stronger than base Kaido, albeit that might be stretching it a bit.
ACoA+improved FS+ improved base strength should make Luffy a low top tier.
Given that there is so much of wano left to uncover, Its very possible that Luffy could get a second power up. If this happens, Luffy will undoubtedly be able to 1v1 kaido.
I feel like the only reason Oda gave Kaido the whole "always bet on Kaido in a 1v1" thing was specifically so that Luffy could beat him 1v1.
also, I don't think this ruins the rest of One piece because IM and Blackbeard could easily be FAR stronger than Kaido.
Luffy is not yet at the level where he can 1vs1 an actual top tier and a yonko at that, it would be outright bad writting to have him get completely overwhelmed PHYSICALLY and one shot at his STRONGEST and then beating that same person a few days later. It would be fairy tail level of asspulery.
now youre reaching, this isnt dbz. The power ceiling has been established in one piece pretty early on with WB. And i dont see primebeard anything less than very high diffing Kaido. Youre telling luffy will do what other top tiers couldnt? Come on now. The prophecy is litterally telling you that its a team battle, thriller bark foreshadowed that. There are many people with a grudge against kaido too. The power of luffy is the fact that he gets people to want to help him and it will show in this arc. Oda said that this war will make marineford look cute, i feel like kaido will get his wish of starting the greatest war in order to die in it. And he will die in an epic fashion, not at the hands of some fodder he one shot a few days ago.
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now youre reaching, this isnt dbz. The power ceiling has been established in one piece pretty early on with WB. And i dont see primebeard anything less than very high diffing Kaido. Youre telling luffy will do what other top tiers couldnt? Come on now. The prophecy is litterally telling you that its a team battle, thriller bark foreshadowed that. There are many people with a grudge against kaido too. The power of luffy is the fact that he gets people to want to help him and it will show in this arc. Oda said that this war will make marineford look cute, i feel like kaido will get his wish of starting the greatest war in order to die in it. And he will die in an epic fashion, not at the hands of some fodder he one shot a few days ago.
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I don't think he will solo him from start to finish,but he will do majority of the damage. (If it was quantifiable let's just say around 70-75%)
I still fancy the Luffy+Kid+Marco vs Kaidou.
Kid will do some kind of damage to Kaidou before he collapses.
Marco will keep Kaidou at bay and be his punching bag thanks to his fruit,till Luffy regains his haki after each G4 session.
I still fancy the Luffy+Kid+Marco vs Kaidou.
Kid will do some kind of damage to Kaidou before he collapses.
Marco will keep Kaidou at bay and be his punching bag thanks to his fruit,till Luffy regains his haki after each G4 session.
In Thriller Bark, all the SHs did face Oars but it was Luffy who finally defeated Moria.
Similarly for final fight this arc to be a tag team fight, and for Zoro/Sanji to face Kaidou even after beating King(+Kyoshiro/Orochi) /Queen, there must atleast be another oppponent for Luffy(there ain't bt BM) and so Luffy must KO Kaidou solo in the end.
Afterall Luffy is the Protagonist of the show and must get the maximum fame out of all this.
Though i wouldn't mind SNs tag teaming Kaidou, they also are supposed to rise Big after this incident, bt it's shame Oda didnt do anything to hype em up for the final fight.
Neither are their opponents clear at this moment, which inclines me to put em against Kaidou or BM in Tag team fight.
I mean King n Queen are out of options, and so is Jack, if Jinbei arrives or Inu/Neko faces him off, which leaves us with only Smoothie n Perospero for the SNs( if Ashura or anyone doesn't face em), who again are good opponents for Drake, Hawkins n Killer bt not for Kidd n Law, given Zoro n Sanji are also facing YCs. Drake n Killer might also tag team Zoro n Sanji against King n Queen.
So Yes for me personally Kidd n Law are indeed up against Kaidou or BM at some stage in the final fight.
(Tho any other opponent can be used as hypetool to build em up for final fight.)
Conclusion, I think Zoro might get to try Cut Kaidou at some point(some chance), bt that's about it is his role with Kaidou and none of the Other SHs are getting any chances with Kaidou.
Other than that it will be Luffy, Kidd n Law mainly against Kaidou. They will all awaken in that moment and Luffy will be the one to land final hit on Kaidou.
Similarly for final fight this arc to be a tag team fight, and for Zoro/Sanji to face Kaidou even after beating King(+Kyoshiro/Orochi) /Queen, there must atleast be another oppponent for Luffy(there ain't bt BM) and so Luffy must KO Kaidou solo in the end.
Afterall Luffy is the Protagonist of the show and must get the maximum fame out of all this.
Though i wouldn't mind SNs tag teaming Kaidou, they also are supposed to rise Big after this incident, bt it's shame Oda didnt do anything to hype em up for the final fight.
Neither are their opponents clear at this moment, which inclines me to put em against Kaidou or BM in Tag team fight.
I mean King n Queen are out of options, and so is Jack, if Jinbei arrives or Inu/Neko faces him off, which leaves us with only Smoothie n Perospero for the SNs( if Ashura or anyone doesn't face em), who again are good opponents for Drake, Hawkins n Killer bt not for Kidd n Law, given Zoro n Sanji are also facing YCs. Drake n Killer might also tag team Zoro n Sanji against King n Queen.
So Yes for me personally Kidd n Law are indeed up against Kaidou or BM at some stage in the final fight.
(Tho any other opponent can be used as hypetool to build em up for final fight.)
Conclusion, I think Zoro might get to try Cut Kaidou at some point(some chance), bt that's about it is his role with Kaidou and none of the Other SHs are getting any chances with Kaidou.
Other than that it will be Luffy, Kidd n Law mainly against Kaidou. They will all awaken in that moment and Luffy will be the one to land final hit on Kaidou.
