General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet
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The problem with you Yamato fan is that you keep thinking that because Yamato choose something on her own (that doesn't fit your narrative) it means that she loses her freedom. And you don't understand why I call this mindset.. pretty toxic.
Let's count:
- How many time did Yamato SAID that she would sail with Luffy ? 3 times
- How many time did Yamato ACTED as a protector of Wano and Momo? 4 times and one is coming soon.
Acts > Words
Add that to the perspective of Carrot discovering the true nature of the dawn and the desire to follow into Pedro's steps and you get everything that Carrot needs.
This was done early by putting Carrot at the look-out post. Something no character ever did beside her mentor who died to actually protect her and the strawhats. This is unique in the story and a clear indication of Carrot joining the crew.
For a few minutes and Luffy was frusrated most of the time. This is not what I call "an interaction" and I wouldn't compare that to every interactions Carrot had with Luffy or with the entire MONTH she spent with him on the ship.
This is an argument for the Carrot fans actually. Those are not picture of Luffy "not caring" those are picture of Luffy not being "bothered" by Carrot's shenanigans. It's all part of the comedy. You twisted your interpretation here.
Wrong again. That's called composition. Framing and perspective are part of this composition. And "Show don't tell" is a rule not a composition principle. And here you can clearly see it in action.
This panel do show Carrot as more important. Precisely because of THAT composition. If that wasn't the case, Oda would've inverted the perspective and the placement of the characters. Visual Storytelling MATTERS. You can't just ignore it.
Oda doesn't write the story because of his fans.
Because Sanji and Chopper knew that Zoro was in bad posture and ZOro looks like he is DEAD.
And then it was undermined by her being on the ship and Usopp did the job you claim is so important
the minks know what the dawn is Carot is the only one (or at least the only one who is at the forefront) who doesnt, discovering what the dawn is can be resolved by jusat asking Neko, and to that point the Mink are not the bringers of the Dawn it is more in line with the Kouzuki, the minks are simply there to assist in bringing it
So by your reasoning, it makes more sense to for Carrot to stay in Wano with Momo and the Dukes to further that important plot line
it doesnt matter what you call an interaction, they interacted and got to know each other, Luffy has never shown concern or interest in Carrot when she wasnt with his crew, they have never had a conversation that would lead Luffy to seeing her as so interesting that he would want her on his crew, not even in that ENTIRE MONTH she spent on HIS ship
regardless of comedic standing, it still furthers my point of that Luffy shows no interest in her, in or outside of comedic points
No one is ignoring the visuals im pointing out that your are over analyzing to further your point when all the panel shows is the group moving to a safer location and showing the urgency in which they are doing so
If it was shown that Carrot was already running ahead of Neko and Wanda with Neko telling Wanda to hurry, you wouldve spun that in a way to go along with your dialog, if Carrot was truely as important as you are trying to make us believe , then she shouldnt go from a duo fighting Pero to an observer of his defeat
AND THEN BE THRUSTED BACK INTO PROTAGONIST ROLE AFTER PERO IS ALREADY DEFEATED
the minks know what the dawn is Carot is the only one (or at least the only one who is at the forefront) who doesnt, discovering what the dawn is can be resolved by jusat asking Neko, and to that point the Mink are not the bringers of the Dawn it is more in line with the Kouzuki, the minks are simply there to assist in bringing it
So by your reasoning, it makes more sense to for Carrot to stay in Wano with Momo and the Dukes to further that important plot line
it doesnt matter what you call an interaction, they interacted and got to know each other, Luffy has never shown concern or interest in Carrot when she wasnt with his crew, they have never had a conversation that would lead Luffy to seeing her as so interesting that he would want her on his crew, not even in that ENTIRE MONTH she spent on HIS ship
regardless of comedic standing, it still furthers my point of that Luffy shows no interest in her, in or outside of comedic points
No one is ignoring the visuals im pointing out that your are over analyzing to further your point when all the panel shows is the group moving to a safer location and showing the urgency in which they are doing so
If it was shown that Carrot was already running ahead of Neko and Wanda with Neko telling Wanda to hurry, you wouldve spun that in a way to go along with your dialog, if Carrot was truely as important as you are trying to make us believe , then she shouldnt go from a duo fighting Pero to an observer of his defeat
AND THEN BE THRUSTED BACK INTO PROTAGONIST ROLE AFTER PERO IS ALREADY DEFEATED
Lol okay u want Yamato to shout and say I am destroy the bomb and fighting kaido so he can't kill everybody mean while carrot hasn't done shit than being a background character
I know but it's hurt to see someone who can't read u know what he put in his theory about carrot she need to join the crew because she can jump high 😅🤣🤣🤣 like wtf
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I know but it's hurt to see someone who can't read u know what he put in his theory about carrot she need to join the crew because she can jump high 😅🤣🤣🤣 like wtf
Usopp did the job of a sniper first. This undermine nothing ;)
No. We don't know what the dawn is, the minks only knows taht it's coming not really how it will come. Pedro was the only was knowing that Luffy would be the one to bring it.. And know Carrot might be the only one with the tool to realize it to.
Luffy never show concern before he forced Franky to join to.. so that's not a good argument. Luffy consider CArrot as a close friend, this was cleared by the story:
- With the fact that Luffy is actually sharing food with her
- With the fact that Luffy is actually naming her correctly
- With the fact that Luffy counts on her like anyone else
- With the fact that Luffy gets angry when you hurt her.
Luffy considering Carrot as a friend is undeniable. On the other hand it not that obvious with Yamato.
No, you are just twisting your interpretation of a panel that's all.
I would be overanalysing by making statement about the future of Carrot regarding that panel. I'm not doing that, I'm only extrapolating and I'm just analysing the composition. This is no rocket science, you should understand that easily. And I'm not making a big analysis here, I'm just saying that Oda is still considering Carrot as worthy of attention. This is undeniable once again, BECAUSE of the composition of this panel. No over analysis is. Just basic visual storytelling.
No. We don't know what the dawn is, the minks only knows taht it's coming not really how it will come. Pedro was the only was knowing that Luffy would be the one to bring it.. And know Carrot might be the only one with the tool to realize it to.
Luffy never show concern before he forced Franky to join to.. so that's not a good argument. Luffy consider CArrot as a close friend, this was cleared by the story:
- With the fact that Luffy is actually sharing food with her
- With the fact that Luffy is actually naming her correctly
- With the fact that Luffy counts on her like anyone else
- With the fact that Luffy gets angry when you hurt her.
Luffy considering Carrot as a friend is undeniable. On the other hand it not that obvious with Yamato.
No, you are just twisting your interpretation of a panel that's all.
I would be overanalysing by making statement about the future of Carrot regarding that panel. I'm not doing that, I'm only extrapolating and I'm just analysing the composition. This is no rocket science, you should understand that easily. And I'm not making a big analysis here, I'm just saying that Oda is still considering Carrot as worthy of attention. This is undeniable once again, BECAUSE of the composition of this panel. No over analysis is. Just basic visual storytelling.
A sniper needs to be able to find, or lookout if you will, his targets. Carrot could have acted as a spotter, but she seemed just fine standing around doing nothing. Viola on the other hand actually did act as a spotter, at least until Usopp developed his Observation Haki.
He also said that Inuarashi and Nekomamushi must survive as they will be needed for the Dawn. I'm also curious what you consider the tool that Carrot, and only Carrot, has that makes her necessary for Luffy bringing the Dawn.
1) Luffy has shared plenty of food with others, especially during all of the post-arc parties.
2) I guess Luffy didn't consider Chopper a friend since he never said his actual name once during Drum Island arc.
3) I wouldn't really consider roll call the height of counting on someone, even more so when Brulee was also on that list. Hell, he counted on Brulee more during Whole Cake than he did Carrot, and Brulee was even instrumental in his victory against Katakuri.
4) That's true of people Luffy barely even met. He was ready to throw down against Foxy when he shot a horse he met 2 seconds ago.
Luffy barely acknowledged Carrot even in Whole Cake. Luffy has shown more concern about Yamato in this one arc than he has for the entirety of Carrot's existence, and Yamato showed that she cared about what Luffy thought of her more than Carrot has. Luffy told Yamato to hold back when she was gung-ho about fighting Kaido, entrusted her with protecting Momo and Shinobu (which she was ecstatic to take on a task for Luffy and prove herself to him), and Luffy was happy to see Yamato had stalled Kaido and that she was letting him take over the fight. I actually think the last time Luffy spoke to Carrot was when he was doing roll call, which does not speak much of their relationship. And that was him just saying her name, I can't recall the two having an actual 1-on-1 dialogue at all in the entire series.
It's another panel where Carrot shows no actual drive or introspection of her own, just following orders of her fellow minks. It would mean something if she got an actual thought bubble of literally anything, let alone some concern of something like "I hope the Straw Hats are okay."
He also said that Inuarashi and Nekomamushi must survive as they will be needed for the Dawn. I'm also curious what you consider the tool that Carrot, and only Carrot, has that makes her necessary for Luffy bringing the Dawn.
1) Luffy has shared plenty of food with others, especially during all of the post-arc parties.
2) I guess Luffy didn't consider Chopper a friend since he never said his actual name once during Drum Island arc.
3) I wouldn't really consider roll call the height of counting on someone, even more so when Brulee was also on that list. Hell, he counted on Brulee more during Whole Cake than he did Carrot, and Brulee was even instrumental in his victory against Katakuri.
4) That's true of people Luffy barely even met. He was ready to throw down against Foxy when he shot a horse he met 2 seconds ago.
Luffy barely acknowledged Carrot even in Whole Cake. Luffy has shown more concern about Yamato in this one arc than he has for the entirety of Carrot's existence, and Yamato showed that she cared about what Luffy thought of her more than Carrot has. Luffy told Yamato to hold back when she was gung-ho about fighting Kaido, entrusted her with protecting Momo and Shinobu (which she was ecstatic to take on a task for Luffy and prove herself to him), and Luffy was happy to see Yamato had stalled Kaido and that she was letting him take over the fight. I actually think the last time Luffy spoke to Carrot was when he was doing roll call, which does not speak much of their relationship. And that was him just saying her name, I can't recall the two having an actual 1-on-1 dialogue at all in the entire series.
It's another panel where Carrot shows no actual drive or introspection of her own, just following orders of her fellow minks. It would mean something if she got an actual thought bubble of literally anything, let alone some concern of something like "I hope the Straw Hats are okay."
when did i ever say “pacing = paneling“?
if youre gonna reply please stop with the bad faith arguements…
they factor in to the pacing but is not the sole reason for pacing problems.
yes there are PLENTY of wasted panels in almost every arc…doesn’t matter if you read it weekly or in bulk…colloseum in dressrosa (for example)will always be known for that Problem.
do you even know what it takes to be a WEEKLY mangaka?
it literally means cramming in filler panels and extra stuff in to make EACH chapter fairly exiting to read. Oda literally said in an interview about how the editors and readers were urging him to make chptr 1000 exciting Rather than than drawing things out how they would naturally go…if he did(like oda said) 1000 wouldve been like any ordinary chapter.
if oda wastes time drawing out fodder instead of focusing on MAIN FIGHTS…yes…that factors in to pacing.
Ive read a few of your posts here and it seems like you honestly just have a huge confirmation bias in favor of carrot.
things like you HYPER ANALYZING that ONE panel of carrot after counless chapters of her absence is very telling…
ill say it like this..
if Oda was buggy you would be the impell down prisoners
its just not that deep
if youre gonna reply please stop with the bad faith arguements…they factor in to the pacing but is not the sole reason for pacing problems.
yes there are PLENTY of wasted panels in almost every arc…doesn’t matter if you read it weekly or in bulk…colloseum in dressrosa (for example)will always be known for that Problem.
do you even know what it takes to be a WEEKLY mangaka?
it literally means cramming in filler panels and extra stuff in to make EACH chapter fairly exiting to read. Oda literally said in an interview about how the editors and readers were urging him to make chptr 1000 exciting Rather than than drawing things out how they would naturally go…if he did(like oda said) 1000 wouldve been like any ordinary chapter.
if oda wastes time drawing out fodder instead of focusing on MAIN FIGHTS…yes…that factors in to pacing.
Ive read a few of your posts here and it seems like you honestly just have a huge confirmation bias in favor of carrot.
things like you HYPER ANALYZING that ONE panel of carrot after counless chapters of her absence is very telling…
ill say it like this..
if Oda was buggy you would be the impell down prisoners
its just not that deep
when did i ever say “pacing = paneling“?
if youre gonna reply please stop with the bad faith arguements…
they factor in to the pacing but is not the sole reason for pacing problems.
yes there are PLENTY of wasted panels in almost every arc…doesn’t matter if you read it weekly or in bulk…colloseum in dressrosa (for example)will always be known for that Problem.
do you even know what it takes to be a WEEKLY mangaka?
it literally means cramming in filler panels and extra stuff in to make EACH chapter fairly exiting to read. Oda literally said in an interview about how the editors and readers were urging him to make chptr 1000 exciting Rather than than drawing things out how they would naturally go…if he did(like oda said) 1000 wouldve been like any ordinary chapter.
if oda wastes time drawing out fodder instead of focusing on MAIN FIGHTS…yes…that factors in to pacing.
Ive read a few of your posts here and it seems like you honestly just have a huge confirmation bias in favor of carrot.
things like you HYPER ANALYZING that ONE panel of carrot after counless chapters of her absence is very telling…
ill say it like this..
if Oda was buggy you would be the impell down prisoners
its just not that deep
if youre gonna reply please stop with the bad faith arguements…they factor in to the pacing but is not the sole reason for pacing problems.
yes there are PLENTY of wasted panels in almost every arc…doesn’t matter if you read it weekly or in bulk…colloseum in dressrosa (for example)will always be known for that Problem.
do you even know what it takes to be a WEEKLY mangaka?
it literally means cramming in filler panels and extra stuff in to make EACH chapter fairly exiting to read. Oda literally said in an interview about how the editors and readers were urging him to make chptr 1000 exciting Rather than than drawing things out how they would naturally go…if he did(like oda said) 1000 wouldve been like any ordinary chapter.
if oda wastes time drawing out fodder instead of focusing on MAIN FIGHTS…yes…that factors in to pacing.
Ive read a few of your posts here and it seems like you honestly just have a huge confirmation bias in favor of carrot.
things like you HYPER ANALYZING that ONE panel of carrot after counless chapters of her absence is very telling…
ill say it like this..
if Oda was buggy you would be the impell down prisoners
its just not that deep
He's small fry though.
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