World War 3

[Reborn]

You can blame Putin for invasion and rightly so but you also have to blame the West for triggering it


From past few decades US continuously expanded military bases near Russian Border.

NATO continuously expanded to Russian Border.


Which country would like to be encircled like this? No one. I am sure US would make hell lot of fuss if Russia or China would have military bases in US neighbours.

Would you like to have such things around your house? Definitely not.

Russia continuously asked west not to do so but to no avail.


But things changed in last two decades
Russia not only continued to become militarily advanced but also got a strong, decisive leader Putin while US lacked the strong leadership.

Second, china being ally with Russia literally puts west on backfoot because China is not only military advanced but also World's second largest economy.

Infact, if you look closely that Russia for past one year continuously objected Ukraine being considered as part of NATO.

But US didn't address it.

Even from past one month, Russia tried to negotiate while building up forces. Yet, ignored.


Putin could be a mad man. But it's west who brought the tipping point.

 

[MonsterKaido]

You can blame Putin for invasion and rightly so but you also have to blame the West for triggering it


From past few decades US continuously expanded military bases near Russian Border.

NATO continuously expanded to Russian Border.


Which country would like to be encircled like this? No one. I am sure US would make hell lot of fuss if Russia or China would have military bases in US neighbours.

Would you like to have such things around your house? Definitely not.

Russia continuously asked west not to do so but to no avail.


But things changed in last two decades
Russia not only continued to become militarily advanced but also got a strong, decisive leader Putin while US lacked the strong leadership.

Second, china being ally with Russia literally puts west on backfoot because China is not only military advanced but also World's second largest economy.

Infact, if you look closely that Russia for past one year continuously objected Ukraine being considered as part of NATO.

But US didn't address it.

Even from past one month, Russia tried to negotiate while building up forces. Yet, ignored.


Putin could be a mad man. But it's west who brought the tipping point.

100% Right

 

[Konstantis]

Well I found statistics for USA soldiers on iraq war by years

https://www.statista.com/statistics/263798/american-soldiers-killed-in-iraq/

I don’t know If there is any better data for USA soldiers death than this.

I agree both media may not tell numbers how many soldiers died in this conflict/war

I don‘t except Ukraine and Russia people to have sympathy as lion to have sympathy on me . I don’t .

You can blame Putin for invasion and rightly so but you also have to blame the West for triggering it


From past few decades US continuously expanded military bases near Russian Border.

NATO continuously expanded to Russian Border.


Which country would like to be encircled like this? No one. I am sure US would make hell lot of fuss if Russia or China would have military bases in US neighbours.

Would you like to have such things around your house? Definitely not.

Russia continuously asked west not to do so but to no avail.


But things changed in last two decades
Russia not only continued to become militarily advanced but also got a strong, decisive leader Putin while US lacked the strong leadership.

Second, china being ally with Russia literally puts west on backfoot because China is not only military advanced but also World's second largest economy.

Infact, if you look closely that Russia for past one year continuously objected Ukraine being considered as part of NATO.

But US didn't address it.

Even from past one month, Russia tried to negotiate while building up forces. Yet, ignored.


Putin could be a mad man. But it's west who brought the tipping point.

That is not working like that, muslims played terrorist role for a long time in USA, they burn people and buildings. So they was trying to find nuclear bomb that could burn USA, case Iraq leader was acting like a mad man.
Now tell me when ukranian soldiers invade Russia and burn some people, or was hunting on people in Russia.
Right now it is obvios that Russian troops was fighting against ukranian in Eastern part of Ukraine, but in much smaller numbers, which is right now obvius thing, while they was saying that is not true. So technically we could say that war between Russia and Ukraine started much earlier. But finally Russia now is using official russian army to fight against Ukraine.
Also yes, you can blame USA, but if I'm not wrong Ukraine wanted to join NATO only because of Russia actions.
SO yet again all this was PUTIN'S FAULT.

 

[BakiDou]

You can blame Putin for invasion and rightly so but you also have to blame the West for triggering it


From past few decades US continuously expanded military bases near Russian Border.

NATO continuously expanded to Russian Border.


Which country would like to be encircled like this? No one. I am sure US would make hell lot of fuss if Russia or China would have military bases in US neighbours.

Would you like to have such things around your house? Definitely not.

Russia continuously asked west not to do so but to no avail.


But things changed in last two decades
Russia not only continued to become militarily advanced but also got a strong, decisive leader Putin while US lacked the strong leadership.

Second, china being ally with Russia literally puts west on backfoot because China is not only military advanced but also World's second largest economy.

Infact, if you look closely that Russia for past one year continuously objected Ukraine being considered as part of NATO.

But US didn't address it.

Even from past one month, Russia tried to negotiate while building up forces. Yet, ignored.


Putin could be a mad man. But it's west who brought the tipping point.

``You can blame Putin for invasion and rightly so but you also have to blame the West for triggering it``- Wheeeeee, wheeeeee, big bad ``west`` triggered Putin, and he is now a terrorist wheee wheee.
Dude you sound so stupid it is funny, if Ukraine wants to join UE, whats Putins problem? What is your problem?

 

[Pantheos]

You can blame Putin for invasion and rightly so but you also have to blame the West for triggering it


From past few decades US continuously expanded military bases near Russian Border.

NATO continuously expanded to Russian Border.


Which country would like to be encircled like this? No one. I am sure US would make hell lot of fuss if Russia or China would have military bases in US neighbours.

Would you like to have such things around your house? Definitely not.

Russia continuously asked west not to do so but to no avail.


But things changed in last two decades
Russia not only continued to become militarily advanced but also got a strong, decisive leader Putin while US lacked the strong leadership.

Second, china being ally with Russia literally puts west on backfoot because China is not only military advanced but also World's second largest economy.

Infact, if you look closely that Russia for past one year continuously objected Ukraine being considered as part of NATO.

But US didn't address it.

Even from past one month, Russia tried to negotiate while building up forces. Yet, ignored.


Putin could be a mad man. But it's west who brought the tipping point.

Sorry Reborn, but this is like your spoilers, nonsense.

Little countries put themselfes together in a non violent contract and you try to claim it is an attack on russia? Its a defence-contract. Its not like they provocate russia at all. Never had.
But you no try to compare non violence / defence contract between countrys with an invasion including missle attacks on the civil population.

But there are some infos you are missing, China doesnt want to help russia here, like Kazachstan. Russia asked for troops from these countries and for help, they denied. Additionally russia has a huge morality problem inside of their troops, already shown in Ukrain and in the civil population.

In my opinion, Putin got some issue with his ego and goes nuts now. But he is burning his hands and the backslash will ruin all he build up on reputation.

 

[Reborn]

Sorry Reborn, but this is like your spoilers, nonsense.

Little countries put themselfes together in a non violent contract and you try to claim it is an attack on russia? Its a defence-contract. Its not like they provocate russia at all. Never had.
But you no try to compare non violence / defence contract between countrys with an invasion including missle attacks on the civil population.

But there are some infos you are missing, China doesnt want to help russia here, like Kazachstan. Russia asked for troops from these countries and for help, they denied. Additionally russia has a huge morality problem inside of their troops, already shown in Ukrain and in the civil population.

In my opinion, Putin got some issue with his ego and goes nuts now. But he is burning his hands and the backslash will ruin all he build up on reputation.

First, the non violent contract involves two important clause

1) it's for security of North Atlantic Region. Yet, Nato expanded eastward


2)It involves collective defense clause


In international relations, Balance of power is key concept. By expanding eastward, NATO has always tried to tilt Balance of Power in their favour.

Imagine you live in a house. And, a mile away there is someone whom you consider hostile. You two are far away but what if that person buys a home right next to you. Won't you feel concerned?


Second, read what I said. I never justified Russia's invasion. I said even west has to shoulder the responsibility as well.


Third, I am here for the discussion. You and me have no say in the matter and can only exchange views or debate.

Next time,. Don't begin the post with "Nonsense kind of thing" because it makes me feel replying to you isn't worth my time.

 

[AkainuTheGrimReaper]

Maybe I should stop posting to debate because my views might trigger both sides.

 

[Kiiro]

Here's the official teams list for WW3

Mexico doesnt fight, he just helps with aids.

Post automatically merged: Feb 28, 2022

And as president of a nation, it is hard to take decisions. No matter what, Putin what he did since he saw it was the best way, that is how hard was the situation he was facing.

 

[Finalbeta]

i highly doubt Putin pull nuclear blast on country. It is all bluff He is not stupid to use nuke .

I can have a weapon to destroy earth in one second just for buff threat

I wonder how many people getting arrested in his own country for protests will Putin's Government ignore

 

[Gol D. Roger]

You're being naïve if you think anyone is "right" here. NATO's expansions aren't just small countries wanting to be friends with their neighbors and Russia's invasion(s) isn't just Russia wanting to defend itself from the West. Like it or not, it's a fact the big countries control the world, and the entire cluster fuck of things that we're facing today stem from the fact that the so-called big countries want the world to operate on their terms. Small countries aren't always free to choose whatever they want—the big boys dictate what you can and cannot do. And you get punished every time you upset one of them.

Some of these big brothers use "fear" to expand their influence while others do it with money. The US baited Ukraine with money while Russia tried and is trying to control it with fear. So, naturally, they sided with the US as it is more beneficial, and no one can blame them for taking the West's side because that's the only way small countries can survive and flourish these days.

However, they made one big mistake, they overestimated the lengths the West is willing to go to help them against Russia, and they kinda got carried away, so Russia, being Russia, is showing them fear now. No one including Ukraine is innocent here but I think all of us can agree that they don't deserve what they're getting now. Innocent people are dying rn. The least we can do for them is to not mock their deaths because their leaders made stupid mistakes. Ukraine isn't the first of its kind and it won't be the last either.

 

[Adam 🍎]

Does anyone know what Ja Rule thinks of this?

 

[Blother Fertitta]

It might be unfolding as we speak while we're on our phones/computers talking about it on a forum dedicated to a japanese comic.

What a time to be alive.

Ain’t that a fact

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

You can blame Putin for invasion and rightly so but you also have to blame the West for triggering it


From past few decades US continuously expanded military bases near Russian Border.

NATO continuously expanded to Russian Border.


Which country would like to be encircled like this? No one. I am sure US would make hell lot of fuss if Russia or China would have military bases in US neighbours.

Would you like to have such things around your house? Definitely not.

Russia continuously asked west not to do so but to no avail.


But things changed in last two decades
Russia not only continued to become militarily advanced but also got a strong, decisive leader Putin while US lacked the strong leadership.

Second, china being ally with Russia literally puts west on backfoot because China is not only military advanced but also World's second largest economy.

Infact, if you look closely that Russia for past one year continuously objected Ukraine being considered as part of NATO.

But US didn't address it.

Even from past one month, Russia tried to negotiate while building up forces. Yet, ignored.


Putin could be a mad man. But it's west who brought the tipping point.

This is part of American propoganda and obsession over russiophobia that is ingrained since 40s.

Sleepy Joe unfortunately doesn't count to be president . We need new leaders not the old guards who brings nothing on table.

Did US ever made honest attempt to have good relations eith russians which they never did? People talk about how evil putin is. But American govt propoganda war machine destroyed libya, Iraq ,Vietnam . Need to check when bush was tried for war crimes ?

Post automatically merged: Mar 1, 2022

100% Right

Putin is not mad man he is ex kgb spy and carefully made this decision.

I definitely dont think it was right decision. No one wants war but when your enemy decides to station bombs near your home ? He took this extreme deciaion which i still think he overeacted.

Putin probably took this solution. I definitely think he could have msde Ukraine their friends without using hostality .

Also i think putin should have left long back . Medvedev was far more capable he would have brought peace in slavic region.

 

[Konstantis]

Putin is not mad man he is ex kgb spy and carefully made this decision.

I definitely dont think it was right decision. No one wants war but when your enemy decides to station bombs near your home ? He took this extreme deciaion which i still think he overeacted.

Putin probably took this solution. I definitely think he could have msde Ukraine their friends without using hostality .

Also i think putin should have left long back . Medvedev was far more capable he would have brought peace in slavic region.

He is mad man, just look on this, this is one of cities that he come to protect, if I'm not wrong this is city Volnovaha in Eastern Ukraine and it was turned into ruins:

Basically, this...right now just found video where girl from that city! is calling for help(basically she just posted it) case people are there without food and water. Part of them was hiding underground, but was overwhelmed with ruins so now they are trapped there, she said that number of those people is like 10.000 or more, case no one know real number.

You know this man, PUTIN is CRAZY, and his army are commiting war crimes everyday. This is amazing that Ukraine is able to stop this dogs and kill them, but this has to be stopped. Madman has come to save people, while he is just burning cities to the ground, russians language speaking cities.

 

[VersusPhD]

Putin is not mad man

Yeah...... I don't know about that.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

He is mad man, just look on this, this is one of cities that he come to protect, if I'm not wrong this is city Volnovaha in Eastern Ukraine and it was turned into ruins:

Basically, this...right now just found video where girl from that city! is calling for help(basically she just posted it) case people are there without food and water. Part of them was hiding underground, but was overwhelmed with ruins so now they are trapped there, she said that number of those people is like 10.000 or more, case no one know real number.

You know this man, PUTIN is CRAZY, and his army are commiting war crimes everyday. This is amazing that Ukraine is able to stop this dogs and kill them, but this has to be stopped. Madman has come to save people, while he is just burning cities to the ground, russians language speaking cities.

Well i didnt expect it go this bad. War is definitely brutual .
This issue could have been solved in peaceful manner.

 

[Konstantis]

Well i didnt expect it go this bad. War is definitely brutual .
This issue could have been solved in peaceful manner.

Problem is that he said, that he come to save those people...
I don't think that anyone is going to be saved. And we talking about right now people who probably supported him, while what will happen with other cities, where live people who hate him. He is playing savior role like Hitler, while it seems no one even feel to be saved. Putin just found excuse for invading Ukraine with all his might, and all those words about saving someone was hypocrisy from the begining. Also as my friends said Volnovaha was second city that was burn to the ground in this few days. Another city was Schastye, and it was totally destroyed. Right now my friends said that Maryupol is next, and probably whole city will be burn, while only yestarday that city prosper. Again this is just repeating of history when Grozniy was destroyed and burned. But all those war crimes was committed in Russian Federation teritory, while right now Putin and his dogs just attacked another country, which change everything.
So yes, MADMAN has to be stopped.

 

[Finalbeta]

Looks like Putin won't stop a little for now.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

You can blame Putin for invasion and rightly so but you also have to blame the West for triggering it


From past few decades US continuously expanded military bases near Russian Border.

NATO continuously expanded to Russian Border.


Which country would like to be encircled like this? No one. I am sure US would make hell lot of fuss if Russia or China would have military bases in US neighbours.

Would you like to have such things around your house? Definitely not.

Russia continuously asked west not to do so but to no avail.


But things changed in last two decades
Russia not only continued to become militarily advanced but also got a strong, decisive leader Putin while US lacked the strong leadership.

Second, china being ally with Russia literally puts west on backfoot because China is not only military advanced but also World's second largest economy.

Infact, if you look closely that Russia for past one year continuously objected Ukraine being considered as part of NATO.

But US didn't address it.

Even from past one month, Russia tried to negotiate while building up forces. Yet, ignored.


Putin could be a mad man. But it's west who brought the tipping point.

And the Europe are encircled for nuclear bombs from Russia. Russia remove his nuclear weapons and we will do the same

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Problem is that he said, that he come to save those people...
I don't think that anyone is going to be saved. And we talking about right now people who probably supported him, while what will happen with other cities, where live people who hate him. He is playing savior role like Hitler, while it seems no one even feel to be saved. Putin just found excuse for invading Ukraine with all his might, and all those words about saving someone was hypocrisy from the begining. Also as my friends said Volnovaha was second city that was burn to the ground in this few days. Another city was Schastye, and it was totally destroyed. Right now my friends said that Maryupol is next, and probably whole city will be burn, while only yestarday that city prosper. Again this is just repeating of history when Grozniy was destroyed and burned. But all those war crimes was committed in Russian Federation teritory, while right now Putin and his dogs just attacked another country, which change everything.
So yes, MADMAN has to be stopped.

Bro, are you from Ukraine?

P.S. If you are, stay safe, man. I hope everything's fine.