its not the plan of russian army to go straight... they move one step forward than half step back and go around... they dont want to massacre anyone... people seem to forget that generals of both armies studied in same places... most of them are people tha know one another... they strategy isnt full blown conflict... but you will see how they will prevail... it only took 3h to take out skys over ukraine, all planes there are russian now
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That is clown post. Russia said that no one died, while truth is that you can find video on you tube not from oficial sources. Russian sources is a joke like when you hear from officials that Russians are fighting against "bandermobile" which never existed, you will learn how truthfull this source is. While ofc Ukraine is trying to say that russians died in much bigger numbers then in reality, but Putin lose a lot of man, this is why his elites Kadirov called for help from Putin, and this is why Putin decided to talk about nuclear weapon.
Truth is that a lot of people from elite millitary group died, there are video like this:
imagine losing 800 soldiers on few day of invasion to small country Ukraine ?
It is like Russian is different than Soviet Union in military fight.
It is like big meme get embarrassed by Kidd and law over again
@Blackbeard big meme embarassing moment is officially real now.
Truth is that Ukranian never gived up to Hitler army, they was fighing to end, and they won. This is happening in Ukraine, case russians fighing for money, while ukranian army fighing for their land. Like ukranian can die just to blow up the bridge and stop russian army, with heroic death. This is something that russian army can't do at all. This is why this fight is between technology most advanced army and army who is fighting for theirs homeland, which is known by fact that they stand till last man alive.
Truth is that a lot of people from elite millitary group died, there are video like this:
imagine losing 800 soldiers on few day of invasion to small country Ukraine ?
It is like Russian is different than Soviet Union in military fight.
It is like big meme get embarrassed by Kidd and law over again
@Blackbeard big meme embarassing moment is officially real now.
Well sky superiority alone doesn't give you the victory and being of the same school doesn't mean having the same tactics and strategies, everyone has different personalities and preferences.
And it's extremely difficult to fight in cities where guerilla warfare can be used, and to submit a population that is largely hostile to what they see as foreign invaders and are motivated to resist.
And it's extremely difficult to fight in cities where guerilla warfare can be used, and to submit a population that is largely hostile to what they see as foreign invaders and are motivated to resist.
Aha. So Ukraine facists killing their own people and russians for 8 years is not an agression? Are you retarded? So you ignore all of that shit, because after 8 fucking years of no progress talking to the West, Russia decides to finaly do something? I am not a supporter of War, but what do you recommend? Talking with the west that didn't lead to anything for 8 fucking years? And instead of doing something to calm the situation down, the West send weapons to Ukraine, but blame Russia at the same time that they appereantly didn't do anything to calm the situation. Double standard at it's finest. And now they do the same shit again, sending weapons to Ukraine instead of forcing them to start negotiating, which Russia told them multiple times already.
So you use sanctions to find out who is in the right and who is in the wrong? You do realise USA/NATO/EU are on the same side and never sanction each other? And those are exactly the ones putting sanctions on Russia everytime. Use your last 10 Brainsells to figure out why.
The USA was bombing Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, Yugoslavia, Libya, Indonesia, Cuba, Vietnam, Iran, Syria and many many more. Not a single sanction. So based on your logic, them killing 100s of thousands if not even millions of people was the right thing to do, ''sInCe NoBoDy PuT sAnCtIoNs On ThEm''. It's because the EU has nothing to say here. USA even threatens EU countries with sanctions when they don't agree on sanctioning other countries that the USA told them to do - even if it would hurt them more then the country they have to sanction.
Syria:
USA and NATO start bombing the country without permission of the Syrian Government. That is an invasion. Yet no Sanctions.
Russia gets asked for help by the Syrian Government and give them permission to assist them in fighting the Terrorists. USA and NATO sanction Russia for that.
Now please explain me this logic.
So you use sanctions to find out who is in the right and who is in the wrong? You do realise USA/NATO/EU are on the same side and never sanction each other? And those are exactly the ones putting sanctions on Russia everytime. Use your last 10 Brainsells to figure out why.
The USA was bombing Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, Yugoslavia, Libya, Indonesia, Cuba, Vietnam, Iran, Syria and many many more. Not a single sanction. So based on your logic, them killing 100s of thousands if not even millions of people was the right thing to do, ''sInCe NoBoDy PuT sAnCtIoNs On ThEm''. It's because the EU has nothing to say here. USA even threatens EU countries with sanctions when they don't agree on sanctioning other countries that the USA told them to do - even if it would hurt them more then the country they have to sanction.
Syria:
USA and NATO start bombing the country without permission of the Syrian Government. That is an invasion. Yet no Sanctions.
Russia gets asked for help by the Syrian Government and give them permission to assist them in fighting the Terrorists. USA and NATO sanction Russia for that.
Now please explain me this logic.
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Putin's claims of Ukraine being run by fascists or genocide being commited on Russians in Ukraine is baseless, he provided no evidence and it was clearly just an excuse to invade
It's pretty telling when most of the planet agree that Russia is in the wrong, even Russia's absolute allies in China haven't supported Russia and instead just remained neutral, which is hilarious because China would do the exact same to Taiwan given the chance.
Why would the west "force Ukraine to negotiate" when Ukraine's the ones being attacked? The west is sending weapons and aid because Ukraine is the victim, not Russia.
I don't use sanctions to find out who is in the right and wrong, I use my brain, unlike you I have zero reason to be biased, this war doesn't affect me even in the slightest.
Of course from your standpoint it seems natural to want to defend your country and justify their wrongs but that isn't right.
What the US etc did in the middle east was heavily criticized but trying to compare bombings to a full blown invasion like what Russia is doing to Ukraine is faulty at best.
I'm not American nor am I defending America, as I already said, every country has done evil shit if you just go back far enough, but that doesn't give Russia an excuse.
It's pretty telling when most of the planet agree that Russia is in the wrong, even Russia's absolute allies in China haven't supported Russia and instead just remained neutral, which is hilarious because China would do the exact same to Taiwan given the chance.
Why would the west "force Ukraine to negotiate" when Ukraine's the ones being attacked? The west is sending weapons and aid because Ukraine is the victim, not Russia.
I don't use sanctions to find out who is in the right and wrong, I use my brain, unlike you I have zero reason to be biased, this war doesn't affect me even in the slightest.
Of course from your standpoint it seems natural to want to defend your country and justify their wrongs but that isn't right.
What the US etc did in the middle east was heavily criticized but trying to compare bombings to a full blown invasion like what Russia is doing to Ukraine is faulty at best.
I'm not American nor am I defending America, as I already said, every country has done evil shit if you just go back far enough, but that doesn't give Russia an excuse.
Okay you say this lying propaganda . Okay, so how many Russian soilders actually died in Ukraine 2022 conflict ?
As mentioned Vietnam war, USA is actually winning battle . William Sherman style spamming. We got sent troop back to home because how unpopular the war is. Anti war protesters, anti draft , anti American, pro -communism, etc. That is how we lose in Vietnam war.
Now I agree about Russia , nato , and Ukraine issue . I believe we should find comprise somewhere. I support USA to not get involved in other world anymore . I stop support USA foreign policy since 2013-2014.
If you don’t want to bomb building , fine, don’t complain why you losing many soldiers, as getting killed by civilian. ( I don’t believe civilians are innocents- what if Russian solider kill civilian turn out this civilian is murder or rapists or did crime before , so much innocent civilians).
War is about winning and rules only apply to loser (we should not have war rules in first place ).
Btw I am not going complain Russian bombing building , school, etc. cause it is war, not rainbows and sunshine . When war start, except your house get destroyed as result and defend your house , land, etc.
Yes I agree Ukraine have fascists which they literally have nazi symbol before. I know this before since Obama president era .
yes, war is cruel, brutal, ruthless, and no redefinition will change this.
Well, that is my opinion.
PS: I hope this war/conflict will get over sooner as possible. No I don’t support nato .
The reason is no one use nuclear weapon because it can destroy economy, environment, etc and literally turn entire world against you.
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I disagree with you, I think you will change your view point when China invade Russia when putin is out of office.
As mentioned Vietnam war, USA is actually winning battle . William Sherman style spamming. We got sent troop back to home because how unpopular the war is. Anti war protesters, anti draft , anti American, pro -communism, etc. That is how we lose in Vietnam war.
Now I agree about Russia , nato , and Ukraine issue . I believe we should find comprise somewhere. I support USA to not get involved in other world anymore . I stop support USA foreign policy since 2013-2014.
If you don’t want to bomb building , fine, don’t complain why you losing many soldiers, as getting killed by civilian. ( I don’t believe civilians are innocents- what if Russian solider kill civilian turn out this civilian is murder or rapists or did crime before , so much innocent civilians).
War is about winning and rules only apply to loser (we should not have war rules in first place ).
Btw I am not going complain Russian bombing building , school, etc. cause it is war, not rainbows and sunshine . When war start, except your house get destroyed as result and defend your house , land, etc.
Yes I agree Ukraine have fascists which they literally have nazi symbol before. I know this before since Obama president era .
yes, war is cruel, brutal, ruthless, and no redefinition will change this.
Well, that is my opinion.
PS: I hope this war/conflict will get over sooner as possible. No I don’t support nato .
The reason is no one use nuclear weapon because it can destroy economy, environment, etc and literally turn entire world against you.
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I disagree with you, I think you will change your view point when China invade Russia when putin is out of office.
Even @AkainuTheGrimReaper knows the Ukraine has Nazis - one of the reason why donetsk and luhansk split away from Ukraine, because they are not gonna support facism.
So Putin has no evidence and it was baseless?
What do you think about that? Were you living under a rock? Even the West Media was reporting about it. Wake up already.
So Putin has no evidence and it was baseless?
What do you think about that? Were you living under a rock? Even the West Media was reporting about it. Wake up already.
That is pretty nationalism pride in Europ nowadays. Look it up on YouTube videos
‘They are called far-right parties in Europe.
Bit they are not like Christian parties. It is secular parties, or neo pagan/pagan parties .
Oh same nazi are bunch pagan wannable (Hilter praise Ancient Rome, others want go back pre-Christian Europe, they think dark ages of Europe is real).
-They dislike Christianity, I saw YouTube comment on European nationalism pride since 2013-2014. They are very salty over fact that Christianity destroyed European pagan stuff. Similar to ace fans hated to akainu
oh they hate Jews pretty much.
‘They are called far-right parties in Europe.
Bit they are not like Christian parties. It is secular parties, or neo pagan/pagan parties .
Oh same nazi are bunch pagan wannable (Hilter praise Ancient Rome, others want go back pre-Christian Europe, they think dark ages of Europe is real).
-They dislike Christianity, I saw YouTube comment on European nationalism pride since 2013-2014. They are very salty over fact that Christianity destroyed European pagan stuff. Similar to ace fans hated to akainu
oh they hate Jews pretty much.
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Ofc there are, but when did you see them openly protest and shit like in ukraine?
Have you even watched the videos? In the videos it is said they are involved in politics and even some of them have high ranks in military lol
I can post a video of ukranians (most likely those nazis) shooting at Civilans trying to leave the city. Not sure if it is allowed here or not.
Have you even watched the videos? In the videos it is said they are involved in politics and even some of them have high ranks in military lol
I can post a video of ukranians (most likely those nazis) shooting at Civilans trying to leave the city. Not sure if it is allowed here or not.
I'm not going to trust a random video you link, your second post was criticizing me for apparently believing the "media's lies", but you want me to believe your media, you don't see the problem with that?
Nazi's existing within Ukraine isn't a justification for an invasion, Nazism is something that exists everywhere in every country, but there's no evidence whatsoever that the leaders of Ukraine are in support of Nazism, in fact, the president of Ukraine has shown that he's heavily against Nazism and publicly refuted Putin's claims.
Nazi's existing within Ukraine isn't a justification for an invasion, Nazism is something that exists everywhere in every country, but there's no evidence whatsoever that the leaders of Ukraine are in support of Nazism, in fact, the president of Ukraine has shown that he's heavily against Nazism and publicly refuted Putin's claims.
I don't post video links from media but actual footage of people filming it themselfs idiot.
That is not the only reason...
They exist in every country, but there is a huge difference when it's a small group that is never seen and have no power or when they participate in politics and military. Nazis should never be giving any political power ever again. Have you not learn from WW?
Oh so if he is so much against it then how the fuck is the AZOV batalion of nazis in ukrain that fights Donezk and luhansk stil a thing??? Why are nazis having high ranks in the military? Huh? The whole media knows it, but he doesn't or what?
The number doesn't matter, Nazis shouldn't be given any power ever again. With time they will get only more if you don't stop it.
That is not the only reason...
They exist in every country, but there is a huge difference when it's a small group that is never seen and have no power or when they participate in politics and military. Nazis should never be giving any political power ever again. Have you not learn from WW?
Oh so if he is so much against it then how the fuck is the AZOV batalion of nazis in ukrain that fights Donezk and luhansk stil a thing??? Why are nazis having high ranks in the military? Huh? The whole media knows it, but he doesn't or what?
The number doesn't matter, Nazis shouldn't be given any power ever again. With time they will get only more if you don't stop it.
