Who will beat Kaido now?


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If you think King is above Big Mom in any physical stat apart from speed burst you have mental issues.
Never said that, read my post. Big Mom attack didn't break the floor while King attack sent Zoro through the wall and the skull wall. King has some techniques that have greater power than Big Mom attacks. He may be physically weaker but that doesn't mean he doesn't know how to apply his strength better and produce attacks that have more power.

It's like comparing body builder to a martial artist. Just become one can lift more doesn't mean they could produce stronger attacks.
 
Taking 1 blocked attack (for a split second before being teleported away) and crumbling into 30 pieces is superior to:
Fighting a yonko 1vs1 for 30mins+ second 1vs1, being smashed multiple times with both adv CoC and point blank laser breath, including getting hit with Kaido's STRONGEST attack, unblocked, including one time while physically restrained and unable to block or dodge.

Get some help.
When that one attack is the strongest attack shown in the manga to date, it makes complete sense.
 
So does create non-existing equality b/w characters. Katakuri can't even dream of replicating Zoro's rooftop feats while King went on to dog-walk the guy and needed the same power-up that Luffy needed to fight on equal grounds with Kaido to be beaten. Stop downplaying characters for the sake of it.
Do you not know Katakuri's abilities? Seriously reread what that guy can do...
Zoro's ONE impressive feat above what Katakuri could do was his adv COC asura on a distracted Kaido.
Having better AP, doesn't make you a better fighter.
 
AdvCoC doesn't increase attack speed and Luffy trained his CoA in Udon not his speed
First, Luffy's overall strength with a group more between WCI and Wano.

Second, Luffy started out in Udon training his body by running while carrying those stone blocks. He couldn't use his haki at first because of the collar.

ACoC does increase user speed. That how base Luffy kept up with hybrid Kaido and Zoro blizted King at the end of his fight.
 

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Why people still compare Zoro to Luffy?

Base* CoC Luffy already stronger than Zoro as showed vs Kaido.
With Luffy being the only one capable of giving fun to Kaido.

Zoro has CoC too, but CoC isn't his best Haki as we already know (while Is Luffy's specialty), he barely defeated YC1 King, you can at best scale Zoro to Yamato's level or slightly above her.

Yamato considers herself weaker than base CoC Luffy who splits the sky.
CoC G4 Luffy Is obviously way stronger than base Luffy.
Now Luffy has become Joyboy.

Joyboy > CoC G4 > Base CoC Luffy > Current Zoro.

This being REALLY GENEROUS with Zoro.
So can ZoLo fags just stop with their stupid take of "ZoLo and Luffy are same level" shit?

*base = no G4
Ffs can't you ppl go a day without using slurs???
 
Never said that, read my post. Big Mom attack didn't break the floor while King attack sent Zoro through the wall and the skull wall. King has some techniques that have greater power than Big Mom attacks. He may be physically weaker but that doesn't mean he doesn't know how to apply his strength better and produce attacks that have more power.

It's like comparing body builder to a martial artist. Just become one can lift more doesn't mean they could produce stronger attacks.
King's physical attacks do not have the same force as Big Mom's physical force, or anywhere near it really. it's comparing a 12 year old to a 20 year old.
Comparing peripheral damage is laughable, you only have to see how inconsistently Kaido's attacks shake the whole skull or do some minor damage to the ground.
 
Similar to Sanji transformation?
It sucks even more. There will be no tension since we will always think once he gets that mode again he will win.
Let's say like ichigo hollow, goku ssj3, naruto +4 tails. You know when they use it they are invincible. It's a shonen thing bro so it kinda give some hope for futures arcs because oda showed many PU in this arc lol! All became useless btw ...
 
Scaling distances based on characters' talking distances is about as inaccurate as it can get. Oda's not gonna make them carry speakers and microphones to talk with those at a distance when he wants them to talk.


This is the distance b/w the Shichibukai and WB who were standing right in the middle of the bay. This doesn't even constitute a quarter of the island.
Onigashima skull is much bigger than MF building
 
First, Luffy's overall strength with a group more between WCI and Wano.

Second, Luffy started out in Udon training his body by running while carrying those stone blocks. He couldn't use his haki at first because of the collar.

ACoC does increase user speed. That how base Luffy kept up with hybrid Kaido and Zoro blizted King at the end of his fight.
Luffy can do that pre TS so doing that in Udon would have barely any affect on Luffy.

Any panels of Luffy training only show CoA training.

AdvCoC doesn't increase attack speed only attack power. Pre advCoC Luffy blitzed Kaido several times and King can only attack Zoro when Zoro was distracted by Enma.
 
King's physical attacks do not have the same force as Big Mom's physical force, or anywhere near it really. it's comparing a 12 year old to a 20 year old.
Comparing peripheral damage is laughable, you only have to see how inconsistently Kaido's attacks shake the whole skull or do some minor damage to the ground.
One couldn't break the ground while the other defeated Zoro's clash and sent him through two different walls. Stop making excuses. Being a Yonko doesn't mean they are greater at everything in every area then someone who's not. If that was true King wouldn't be more durable than her or Kaido.
 
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