Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1043 Spoilers Discussion

Who will beat Kaido now?

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Sword God Ryuma

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Monster Luffy said:
Doesn't matter. It is not as if Luffy got carried for hours. Kaidou is too heavy to carry and no one is there to carry him. :josad:
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Lol Kaido didn't need carrying thats the difference. Those Fodders would of stabbd Luffy all over with his trash ass. While Kaido gets up and gives out free Baguas
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Monkey D Theories said:
Zoro would probably get overwhelmed by snakeman. Albeit I think asura would probably force Luffy to change strategies and use boundman.
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Luffy arm my get cut off playing around with Zoro like that
 
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Gol D. Roger said:
Except he did push himself against Kamazou. Zoro already canonically pushed himself against Kaido and left a scar on him. If you still wanna talk about Kamazou's stab then you're essentially saying the damage from Hakai plus Kaido Thunder Bagua is less than his stab—good luck proving Luffy's little punches from WCI can deal more damage than Thunder Bagua, forget about Hakai. Or we can just approach this the realistic way and agree that even pre-TS Zoro endured worse attacks than Kamazou's way back in Arlong Park and kept on fighting. You won't be able to support your stance either way.
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Still fainted though Snakeman won't wait Zoro Snakeman will keep attacking Zoro .

Kaido didn't use FS so that Kaido was much slower than Snakeman so his feat against Kaido won't help him against Snakeman.

Zoro blocked Hakai for 1 second.

Took Tb to his stomach not his head like Kuri Luffy did so that's not durability feat for Zoro.

I can support my stance since Zoro didn't tank Hakai and he took Tb to his stomach. 6.300+ Jet CUlverins on Zoro would murder him.

Gol D. Roger said:
It just needs a stance to take. Let's not act like he needs to charge for an hour or something, it takes less than an instant:

He is more than capable of enduring a few punches to take the stance.
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Congratulation for showing nothing. Zoro posed before he launched Tatsumaki and no Jet CUlverins would mess up Zoro pose and knock him back he wont be able to perform Taatsumaki. Continue to get punched 6.300+ times until Zoro collapses.

Gol D. Roger said:
He overpowered G3 by augmenting his attack via his DF ability—that's not raw power. He never tanked G4, he endured the damage and so can Zoro. Zoro can do worse than making Boundman go white-eyed without having to hit its weak spots. Kaido KO'ed Luffy in one hit back in Kuri if you're not aware—don't compare current Luffy with WCI Luffy.
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Katakuri told Luffy he's better than him in power and strength. When Luffy used G3 Katakuri said so it's strength contest huh so it's his own physical strength. He took G4 to the face though.

Katakuri's feat is not applicable to Zoro he needs to have feat tanking attack comparable with Boundman no need to give Katakuri feat to Zoro when you hate Katakuri so much lol. It's never stated white part is non hakified part. When Luffy turned into Boundman he covered his body with CoA and Katakuri white eyed Boundman.

Kaido used TB his strongest attack. His advCoC didn't KO Luffy while Katakuri copy mochi made Luffy almost passed out. Dura wise Luffy didn't get any boost from WCI to Wano. Luffy took advCoC from Kaido without haki protection.

Gol D. Roger said:
He muscles thorough more than ample of Snakeman punches:

Zoro doesn't need FS to hit Luffy in Snakeman. Luffy becomes a sitting duck in G4 when his arms are extended. That's why he couldn't avoid attacks when attacking. He can't even dodge Dragon Kaido, who in turn can't escape Tatsumaki.
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Katakuri used FS to match the speed of Snakeman if it were Zoro, Jet Culverin would hit Zoro multiple times before Zoro can match the speed of Snakeman.

He needs FS otherwise Zoro is sitting duck to Snakeman. Ch. 1042 shows FS is necessary to counter Snakeman. Not amount of coping would change this. Current Zoro has no answer to Snakeman.

ANd lol Dragon Kaido who bit Luffy in Snakeman mode used FS. Dragon Kaido didn't use FS when he was hit by Tatsumaki nice try though.
 
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Monkey D Theories said:
idk about that

Snakeman gives Luffy better speed on top of his already better CoO. The only people who've bested snakeman were katakuri, a CoO master, and kaido, who not only has FS but is also one of the fastest characters in one piece.

And on the topic of katakuri, Luffy is much stronger now than he was back then. Not merely due to his power ups.
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Luffy no doubt has far faster attacks in Snakeman but it's major weakness is Luffy himself can't move around quickly while spamming attacks. That's something no one seems to notice:

Luffy saw Doffy coming at him when he uses Culverin but he couldn't move away.
Luffy saw Cracker coming at him but he couldn't move away.
He saw Kuri dancing around Snakeman but couldn't move.
He saw Kaido coming at him but couldn't move.

Luffy is essentially a sitting duck in G4 when he attacks.
 
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