General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[AL sama]

There is a rule with Oda. If a fight don't matter, there is no need to show it. That was the case here with Carrot. Her fight wasn't the focal point of her action. On the contrary, her defeat was, we can see that because of the treatment of that defeat. It has impact, it has value. In that matter, the speech of Perospero is very important because he is a bad guy and Carrot a good one. This must not be ignored. This defeat will come into play in the arc of Carrot, must it be with a simple flashback or something more.

also even if its a rule then that means the fight was important not her defeat

 

[SILVERS000]

The problem is that you think that Yamato is constructed in order to prepare for Carrot.

As I said in my first message on this forum:

Yamato is not constructed as a strawhat AT ALL. So there is no reason to say that if Carrot join, Yamato was build for nothing.

Yamato is an arc character, constructed as an arc character and acting like an arc character. The only reason you guys think Yamato will join the crew is because you projected your need to have someone strong joining the crew on that poor girl. The fact is: She doesn't deserve your "" love "". She deserve more than this.

And Carrot was a face for the mink alliance
An emotional anchor for Pedro's death
And a showcase for the sulong for the minks would show in the war

Not only "eating around Luffy" (what she did multiple times), SHARING food with Luffy, which is VERY RARE.

Sanji taught luffy if someone is hungry you feed them, Carrot was on the ship, he wasn't just going to deny her food
He likes food but he not a someone to let people starve

And it's enough to have the character interact in multiple ways. The problem is that Oda does not do that with Yamato and the strawhat

I've already said I agree with the fact that she hasn't interacted with the crew but she is interacting and has gained the trust of the person who really matters... LUFFY
Robin had close to 0 interaction with the crew before she joined, and when she did everyone was against it but Luffy's word was the only word

Then she convinced them to like her, crew interaction isn't necessary before joining, but Luffy interaction is

naht for long

Again... illiterate
Carrot is NOT abandoning her kings and helping to rebuild her home after it was layer seige to by Jack and after they helped the family that minks have been allied with for centuries

No, this is confidence

Agreeing that "ONLY YOU UNDERSTAND THE STORY" is not confidence, its arrogance

Yes it is in the scope of One Piece. Maybe not impressive in comparison to Yamato's strenght, but still unique in the strawhat crew. Carrot is one of the few female in the story who is a melee fighter.

Punching people with animal hands... thats Chopper

Has a transformation that significantly increases the size and power of the one transforming for a limited time while having a huge drawback that takes the user out of the fight
.
.
.
THATS CHOPPER

the only difference is Chopper has more transformations and has a long up time for his monster point

And if electro is a byproduct of generating electricity from the Minks fur then Choper has the potential to learn that too

Carrot is not unique

"unus ex mille"- latin meaning, one of one thousand

 

[Ballel]

I’m a published writer and you know how I feel about the insane shit you post;

Link to where I can buy your book plz

 

[Roo]

cutie

 

[Ballel]

cutie

If only I were vip I'd change my name to Yamato4Nakama

 

[IIskandar1997]

cutie

 

[Animangaboy]

cutie

Where is this from?

 

[Staticshadic]

Where is this from?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1502796600741048324

 

[AL sama]

no offense but some of the English that is being used here is going over my head even though my English is fairly good

 

[vikas]

 

[Logiko]

so tell me why the fight between akainu and aokiji was off screened??

Because the fight didn't matter for Oda. Only the result was worthy of importance. The result was the great change in the policy of the Marine, a complete shift in the values.

In another story, another author couldve choosen to take time on those fights (Carrot/Perospero&Akainu/Aokiji) as there is always something to tell when good characters are put in conflict against eachothers.. But those were too narratively exclusive for Oda, too "out of the storyline". Oda needed to stay focus on his prime storyline.

So he made a choice: The result > over > The meaning of the fight. And he is doing that a lot in his different arcs. Sometime, the meanings of the fights are too shallow, or not enough impactfull, so the result becomes more important

The fight between Perospero and Carrot could have been cool, but the real meaning of this fight (at least if we look at how Oda is constructing Carrot) comes at the very end, when Carrot is defeated. Because this is this defeat that is impactfull enough on the character and the reader. It's unexpected, troubling, it's even infuriating when you are a real fan of the character.

You want Carrot to get up.. but she won't and is being humiliated in the process. That what makes this defeat so important. Carrot (and us) needs to learn that defeat is a part of being a pirate, to really evolve on her journey.

I'm glad that someone is finally open to the discussion and my analysis.

Where? Please me tell about them

carrot is the only mink with a cape different from her faction. Carrot is the only white rabbit mink. SO by essence, she stands out. Carrot is the only minks (after Neko and Inu) who is chasing after a desire out of the island, she seems to be the youngest user of Sulong and she is one of the two only ruler bird.

Those makes Carrot a completely different mink than the usual. And i'm not even taking her treatment and symbolisms into account.

You drew a point and a line

I was not talking about an acutal "point" more like a "region" of focus.

where does it say that carrot transformation can last for like 10 minutes?

Where does it say that it last 3 minutes ?

“Focus helpers,” Jesus tap dancing Christ

You need to be an actual artist to understand that my boy...

there is no way an ordinary mink like carrot would join the strawhats.. maybe the grandfleet but not more.
neither is she exceptional nor is she helpful during a combat when it comes to daylight.

Yamato is clear

There won't be anymore member in the grand fleet.

You will need to understand composition to understand this one. Sorry. Ask your friends.

What the f is a focus helper?????

This is a pattern in an image that help the eyes to follow a certain pass. It can be framing, it can be lines it can be a lot of thing. Here it comes in a form of circling lines, much like parenthesis. "(..)"

Everyone can
Except you it seems

Yikes.. Not sure about that.

So u are telling me when a stranger enters your island are u not going to be on a lookout?

Not all cahracters no. this is specific to Carrot.

Also only in her sulong form she can float nothing else

Wrong. Chapter 805

This thread is so funny man
It's like teaching a 3 y/o how to walk.

Are you self reflecting here ?

And Carrot was a face for the mink alliance
An emotional anchor for Pedro's death
And a showcase for the sulong for the minks would show in the war

Indeed. I short. Carrot represent the mink, just like Jinbe represents the Fishmen. Glad we agree on that..

Sanji taught luffy if someone is hungry you feed them, Carrot was on the ship, he wasn't just going to deny her food
He likes food but he not a someone to let people starve

Yeah.. Sanji never taught Luffy that. Luffy is selfish, he only feed or help someone if he feels like it or if they are friends. But again, you are missing the point and confusing GIVING food and SHARING food.

Luffy don't share. Usually at least.

Robin had close to 0 interaction with the crew before she joined, and when she did everyone was against it but Luffy's word was the only word

Indeed. Having close relation with the strawhat is not THE elements that make a future strawhat, it only helps.

Again... illiterate

Lol this was intended my boy.

Carrot is NOT abandoning her kings and helping to rebuild her home after it was layer seige to by Jack and after they helped the family that minks have been allied with for centuries

Carrot has been depicted with more attach to her kingdom taht yamato has for Wano. So don't give me that Bullshit argument that Carrot wouldn't leave her kingdom. She definitely will. Like I said. Development inertia MATTER.

Agreeing that "ONLY YOU UNDERSTAND THE STORY" is not confidence, its arrogance

Nah, it's still confidence (and fact here)

Punching people with animal hands... thats Chopper

Has a transformation that significantly increases the size and power of the one transforming for a limited time while having a huge drawback that takes the user out of the fight
.
.
.
THATS CHOPPER

the only difference is Chopper has more transformations and has a long up time for his monster point

And if electro is a byproduct of generating electricity from the Minks fur then Choper has the potential to learn that too

You know I can do this too with multiple strawhats right ? THis is completely fallacious. So.. irrelevant.

I’m a published writer and you know how I feel about the insane shit you post; my fiancé is a professional artist, I showed this to her and she also started laughing her ass off, so that’s at least one person apiece who actually gets paid to do the things you mentioned and thinks you’re an absolute CHUD

Yeah.. I wouldn't buy your story for even 1 dollar seeing how you can't even analysis a simple storyline. Sorry. Tommy Wiseau is also a director.. it doesn't mean that he is anywhere near a good comprehension of what a good story really needs.

 

[AL sama]

by the looks of it this won't end till one joins

 

[Logiko]

no offense but some of the English that is being used here is going over my head even though my English is fairly good

Sorry about that. I don't have a perfect mastery of this language and I need to reply fast to a dozen people at a time.. not that easy to maintain a high degree of grammar with that.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Yeah.. I wouldn't buy your story for even 1 dollar seeing how you can't even analysis a simple storyline. Sorry. Tommy Wiseau is also a director.. it doesn't mean that he is anywhere near a good comprehension of what a good story really needs.

Every scene in The Room is crafted with more consideration and narrative know how than anything you’ve said and we both know it

 

[Roo]

end of Wano maybe lol

 

[Blizz532]

Even after Yamato possibly joins he will call it a red herring, so never...

 

[Animangaboy]

is the only mink with a cape different from her faction. Carrot is the only white rabbit mink. SO by essence, she stands out. Carrot is the only minks (after Neko and Inu) who is chasing after a desire out of the island, she seems to be the youngest user of Sulong and she is one of the two only ruler bird.

Those makes Carrot a completely different mink than the usual. And i'm not even taking her treatment and symbolisms into account.

So because she is white that why she different? Also bepo is white so that means he is a special mink too?

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Wrong. Chapter 805

What her jumping to tell wanda what's up?

 

[Ballel]

Because the fight didn't matter for Oda. Only the result was worthy of importance. The result was the great change in the policy of the Marine, a complete shift in the values.

In another story, another author couldve choosen to take time on those fights (Carrot/Perospero&Akainu/Aokiji) as there is always something to tell when good characters are put in conflict against eachothers.. But those were too narratively exclusive for Oda, too "out of the storyline". Oda needed to stay focus on his prime storyline.

So he made a choice: The result > over > The meaning of the fight. And he is doing that a lot in his different arcs. Sometime, the meanings of the fights are too shallow, or not enough impactfull, so the result becomes more important

The fight between Perospero and Carrot could have been cool, but the real meaning of this fight (at least if we look at how Oda is constructing Carrot) comes at the very end, when Carrot is defeated. Because this is this defeat that is impactfull enough on the character and the reader. It's unexpected, troubling, it's even infuriating when you are a real fan of the character.

You want Carrot to get up.. but she won't and is being humiliated in the process. That what makes this defeat so important. Carrot (and us) needs to learn that defeat is a part of being a pirate, to really evolve on her journey.

I'm glad that someone is finally open to the discussion and my analysis.



carrot is the only mink with a cape different from her faction. Carrot is the only white rabbit mink. SO by essence, she stands out. Carrot is the only minks (after Neko and Inu) who is chasing after a desire out of the island, she seems to be the youngest user of Sulong and she is one of the two only ruler bird.

Those makes Carrot a completely different mink than the usual. And i'm not even taking her treatment and symbolisms into account.




I was not talking about an acutal "point" more like a "region" of focus.




Where does it say that it last 3 minutes ?




You need to be an actual artist to understand that my boy...




There won't be anymore member in the grand fleet.




You will need to understand composition to understand this one. Sorry. Ask your friends.




This is a pattern in an image that help the eyes to follow a certain pass. It can be framing, it can be lines it can be a lot of thing. Here it comes in a form of circling lines, much like parenthesis. "(..)"





Yikes.. Not sure about that.




Not all cahracters no. this is specific to Carrot.




Wrong. Chapter 805




Are you self reflecting here ?




Indeed. I short. Carrot represent the mink, just like Jinbe represents the Fishmen. Glad we agree on that..



Yeah.. Sanji never taught Luffy that. Luffy is selfish, he only feed or help someone if he feels like it or if they are friends. But again, you are missing the point and confusing GIVING food and SHARING food.

Luffy don't share. Usually at least.



Indeed. Having close relation with the strawhat is not THE elements that make a future strawhat, it only helps.




Lol this was intended my boy.




Carrot has been depicted with more attach to her kingdom taht yamato has for Wano. So don't give me that Bullshit argument that Carrot wouldn't leave her kingdom. She definitely will. Like I said. Development inertia MATTER.




Nah, it's still confidence (and fact here)




You know I can do this too with multiple strawhats right ? THis is completely fallacious. So.. irrelevant.




Yeah.. I wouldn't buy your story for even 1 dollar seeing how you can't even analysis a simple storyline. Sorry. Tommy Wiseau is also a director.. it doesn't mean that he is anywhere near a good comprehension of what a good story really needs.

WALLOFTEXT WALLOFTEXT no mi

 

[AL sama]

Because the fight didn't matter for Oda. Only the result was worthy of importance. The result was the great change in the policy of the Marine, a complete shift in the values.

I can say the fight was really important but I won't go there for now

according to you in the fight between carrot and perospero carrot's defeat was the important part and not the fight itself

so aren't you contradicting yourself by what you just said here??

I'm glad that someone is finally open to the discussion and my analysis.

I m always open minded

Sorry about that. I don't have a perfect mastery of this language and I need to reply fast to a dozen people at a time.. not that easy to maintain a high degree of grammar with that.

nah I understand it must be hard

 

[TEACH D TEACH]

Link to where I can buy your book plz

I wanna buy C4N book instead. Author, Artist, Analyst, Cinematograph, story constructer, story destructer, AND, still has time to write Carrot content on 25 different places on the internet, all day long, while not even being that much a Carrot fan. He truly is amazing, i die to see his actual work