General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[Ravagerblade]

This thread is the New World of Worst gen.
The rest of the forum is Paradise.
I consider myself on the same level as Moria. I tried to come into the New World, but I was clearly tore apart from the monsters that roam it. In my case, as many, it was the King of the Furries C4N who taught me my place

I aliken C4N as Foxy.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

I aliken C4N as Foxy.

I am sorry friend, but foxy is a villain and has been beaten, ridiculed and forgotten.
C4N not only is still unbeaten, I firmly believe him to be unbeatable, because through pure and unalterated bullshit non-reasoning, deafness and faith he is still carrying on his belief. He has persuaded 0 (zero) [null] people, has been banned for like a month, and yet here he is. Like Kaido, you cannot kill him, you cannot imprison it.

 

[Ravagerblade]

I am sorry friend, but foxy is a villain and has been beaten, ridiculed and forgotten.
C4N not only is still unbeaten, I firmly believe him to be unbeatable, because through pure and unalterated bullshit non-reasoning, deafness and faith he is still carrying on his belief. He has persuaded 0 (zero) [null] people, has been banned for like a month, and yet here he is. Like Kaido, you cannot kill him, you cannot imprison it.

That's embellishing it way to much mate. I get what you mean though.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

That's embellishing it way to much mate. I get what you mean though.

Why let the truth get in the way of a great story?
Being honest though, in decades of forums, shitposting and internet, I have never, and I mean truly NEVER, anyone with such dedication such as him. I truly believe he is not trolling, and if you think it for a second, it's shocking the amount ot time he dedicates to this whole carrot thing. Blogs, hundreds of messages.. Does he work? Does he study? We'll never know.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

I am sorry friend, but foxy is a villain and has been beaten, ridiculed and forgotten.
C4N not only is still unbeaten, I firmly believe him to be unbeatable, because through pure and unalterated bullshit non-reasoning, deafness and faith he is still carrying on his belief. He has persuaded 0 (zero) [null] people, has been banned for like a month, and yet here he is. Like Kaido, you cannot kill him, you cannot imprison it.

Like Kaido, he will inevitably be defeated and made to look foolish by the canon itself, even if it’s taking an exceptionally long time to get there

 

[Ravagerblade]

Why let the truth get in the way of a great story?
Being honest though, in decades of forums, shitposting and internet, I have never, and I mean truly NEVER, anyone with such dedication such as him. I truly believe he is not trolling, and if you think it for a second, it's shocking the amount ot time he dedicates to this whole carrot thing. Blogs, hundreds of messages.. Does he work? Does he study? We'll never know.

I've already made some comments on that, and mods deleted them, seemingly protecting him from scrutiny. Plus I was banned for being offensive...
Seriously, is this the world we live in, such thin-skinned babying.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Like Kaido, he will inevitably be defeated and made to look foolish by the canon itself, even if it’s taking an exceptionally long time to get there

You're right. I didn't realise it.
It's just like poetry.

 

[Roo]

This thread is the New World of Worst gen.
The rest of the forum is Paradise.
I consider myself on the same level as Moria. I tried to come into the New World, but I was clearly tore apart from the monsters that roam it. In my case, as many, it was the King of the Furries C4N who taught me my place

Furries often say “If it’s down to one, Carrot will join.”

land sea and air, these carrot4nakama arguments are the strongest example of copium in the world

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Furries often say “If it’s down to one, Carrot will join.”

land sea and air, these carrot4nakama arguments are the strongest example of copium in the world

Speaking of the devil, why has he not showed up yet today? Where he is?

 

[Logiko]

I am sorry friend, but foxy is a villain and has been beaten, ridiculed and forgotten.
C4N not only is still unbeaten, I firmly believe him to be unbeatable, because through pure and unalterated bullshit non-reasoning, deafness and faith he is still carrying on his belief. He has persuaded 0 (zero) [null] people, has been banned for like a month, and yet here he is. Like Kaido, you cannot kill him, you cannot imprison it.

Like Kaido, he will inevitably be defeated and made to look foolish by the canon itself, even if it’s taking an exceptionally long time to get there

Furries often say “If it’s down to one, Carrot will join.”

land sea and air, these carrot4nakama arguments are the strongest example of copium in the world

Mates.. didn't you noticed yet?

I've only been on this forum for less that two trimester.. and I already got one of the worst reputation on this forum.

No one can move me. No one can beat me. I've stormed my way in this thread and already claimed it as my territory.

You still don't know who I am ? Soon, you will understand lol

Look closer at my Profil pic... I have just awaken

 

[Ravagerblade]

Mates.. didn't you noticed yet?

I've only been on this forum for less that two trimester.. and I already got one of the worst reputation on this forum.

No one can move me. No one can beat me. I've stormed my way in this thread and already claimed it as my territory.

You still don't know who I am ? Soon, you will understand lol

Look closer at my Profil page... I have just awaken

Yeah King of the Clowns.
Nice title.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Mates.. didn't you noticed yet?

I've only been on this forum for less that two trimester.. and I already got one of the worst reputation on this forum.

No one can move me. No one can beat me. I've stormed my way in this thread and already claimed it as my territory.

You still don't know who I am ? Soon, you will understand lol

Look closer at my Profil page... I have just awaken

 

[Billy D Williams]

That's sign searching.. It's completely irrelevant.




No. It's still sign searching. It doesn't have any bases other that "what we want to see". No narrative evidences, no meta evidences. In fact color are know to change a lot on the strawhats. That " theory " is completely irrelevant.



Wrong. "To report people if necessary" ;) -




I thought I've explained it on my page. But I think I will have to modify that to included it. I've explained that here:




You will find it in the second half of the explanation

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It's not a real definite points system. It can be adjusted. But I sence that it was the fairest way to make it. My goal was to put the less relevant pillars (A quirk for example) with fewer point because they are quite common and the strongest (a post, a rescue) in the end with 5/10 points because those are either very important for a character to join the crew or very rare in the story.

Your theory is pretty extensive and seems fairly objective. It’s clear to see how Carrot’s the leading namaka candidate based on your criteria, but it doesn’t seem as concrete as how you made it out to be.

First off it’s hard to stay completely objective, even you yourself said so. You have a good set of criteria but the answers to those questions are not set in stone. I bet if you had 3 analyst fill out their own pillars following your criteria they’d arrive at 3 different rankings. For example: under the subjects of quirks and thematic incarnation you have some characters listed as not having any, but it is possible that just because you couldn’t think of any doesn’t mean they don’t exist (I’m aware you have these subjects worth less points but this is just an example).

Another thing is it’s easier to see why each straw hat was picked for the crew in retrospect, but it’s much harder during the process because the amount of pillars each straw hat achieved before joining the crew is different. Example: Nami compared to Robin.

Anyway, good theory. I’m hoping we get multiple recruits if the story permits it.

 

[Animangaboy]

Mates.. didn't you noticed yet?

I've only been on this forum for less that two trimester.. and I already got one of the worst reputation on this forum.

No one can move me. No one can beat me. I've stormed my way in this thread and already claimed it as my territory.

You still don't know who I am? Soon, you will understand lol

Look closer at my Profil pic... I have just awaken

Just rewatched Zou arc and carrot isn't the only white minks there u are such a liar cause sanji did Garchu on Another White Mink, So u are wrong again about carrot being a “Special Mink". Yamato is different from the beast pirates and Tobi Roppo we can see it in her design.

 

[Kishido]

Why are you people are giving him a platform?

 

[Roo]

Why are you people are giving him a platform?

Why not? You say that like they’re hitler or something

 

[Kishido]

Why not? You say that like they’re hitler or something

Well Hitler was over the top delusional and fixed on his stupid wrong views as well.

If no one would take his shit seriously and would hear him out... Well maybe history would be far better.

But yeah... They they ain't Hitlers... But still delusional is

 

[Ballel]

Why are you people are giving him a platform?

Ikr?! People debate this guy as if there's a point but he's so delusional he won't change his opinion. He is a fanboy whose argumentation is entirely and completely devoid of logic.

I just come here to make frequent ''Larrot won't join '' posts bc that's the only answer this guy deserves.

 

[Roo]

Well Hitler was over the top delusional and fixed on his stupid wrong views as well.

If no one would take his shit seriously and would hear him out... Well maybe history would be far better.

But yeah... They they ain't Hitlers... But still delusional is

He's not harming anyone and it's always interesting to see how far someone will believe stuff

 

[Logiko]

Just rewatched Zou arc and carrot isn't the only white minks there u are such a liar cause sanji did Garchu on Another White Mink, So u are wrong again about carrot being a “Special Mink". Yamato is different from the beast pirates and Tobi Roppo we can see it in her design.

Never said she was the only white mink. I only said that as a white Rabbit, she stands out. Go read my initial post before calling me a lyer ;).

Yamato is similar to Oden in her character design. But yes, she is special too.

Your theory is pretty extensive and seems fairly objective. It’s clear to see how Carrot’s the leading namaka candidate based on your criteria, but it doesn’t seem as concrete as how you made it out to be.

First off it’s hard to stay completely objective, even you yourself said so. You have a good set of criteria but the answers to those questions are not set in stone. I bet if you had 3 analyst fill out their own pillars following your criteria they’d arrive at 3 different rankings. For example: under the subjects of quirks and thematic incarnation you have some characters listed as not having any, but it is possible that just because you couldn’t think of any doesn’t mean they don’t exist (I’m aware you have these subjects worth less points but this is just an example).

Another thing is it’s easier to see why each straw hat was picked for the crew in retrospect, but it’s much harder during the process because the amount of pillars each straw hat achieved before joining the crew is different. Example: Nami compared to Robin.

Anyway, good theory. I’m hoping we get multiple recruits if the story permits it.

Wow.. damn. The first fair criticism on my work I had since October. Feels good to be taken a little bit more seriously. I'll reply point by point:

ut it doesn’t seem as concrete as how you made it out to be.

First off it’s hard to stay completely objective, even you yourself said so.

First you are completely right on that. Even I can't be objective here. Storytelling analysis is not an exact science at all, and when we dive into deep storytelling concept, we are bound to make subjectives mistakes. That's why I'll keep trying to enhance that theory, to change the pointing system if necessary to be the fairest possible.

I bet if you had 3 analyst fill out their own pillars following your criteria they’d arrive at 3 different rankings.

And this is why I need actual serious feedback. The carrot for Nakama theory wasn't created by me alone, we were many at the beginning. A theory is a collaborative work and I'm completely willing to hear constructive criticism and modify my work in consequence.

Concerning those pillar specifically, this would be true for at least one of them... indeed, the symbolic reach might be the most subjective Pillar of all. For example, we could argue on wether or not Yamato as a thematic incranation. On my hand, I doesn't consider her to have a real one, as her moral struggle are dispatch around many theme (Adventure/Freedom/Responsibility/Duty/Determination).. BUT this is completely open for debate. That would be the one point were I'm not really sure of myself. In fact, I'm willing to give one more point to Yamato if I'm given enough evidence that one of those theme is her real thematic incarnation. (Just for the reminder, a thematic incarnation,is the "theme" that the protagonist incarnates in the story, the most proeminant subject of his struggles and moral dilemas)

Another thing is it’s easier to see why each straw hat was picked for the crew in retrospect, but it’s much harder during the process because the amount of pillars each straw hat achieved before joining the crew is different. Example: Nami compared to Robin.

Indeed. That's why the pillar are not definitive "rules" like the 7 rules in the first part of my theory. The pillars are here more as a guidance for us to see which character really approach the graal.

Anyway, good theory. I’m hoping we get multiple recruits if the story permits it.

I hope so too