Speculations Zoro vs Kaido bet thread.

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  • Option 1

    Votes: 25 22.9%

  • Option 2

    Votes: 79 72.5%

  • Option 3

    Votes: 5 4.6%
  • Total voters
    109
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Shura

#241
#241
trav said:
Oden did it without FS just fine.
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No he didn't....Kaido hit Oden once and Oden hit Kaido once....Kaido got scar and Oden got KOed...he may have avoided that offguard attack with FS....

trav said:
Kidd did it without FS just fine.
Killer did it without FS just fine.
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No, there is no information how the fight went down with Kaido but given the situation it could be utter massacre...

trav said:
Zoros CoO being trash is a pretty wild claim (its pretty baseless too, but nevermind that). considering that he will become WSS.
a character whos CoO is "utter gutter tier" :choppawhat: will become a One Piece top tier. get a load of this.
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Why not....BigMom is top tier without superior CoO....and apparently Kaido too.....BB didn't even have haki.....also, who said Zoro won't improve in his CoO in the future.....
 
Fujishiro

Fujishiro

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#243
#243
trav said:
Luffy is not dodging Kaidos attacks because of FS. regular CoO lets you avoid Kaidos attacks.
Oden did it without FS just fine.
Kidd did it without FS just fine.
Killer did it without FS just fine.
Zoro would do it without FS just fine.
Luffy would do it just fine if he is not getting flustered.

Zoros CoO being trash is a pretty wild claim (its pretty baseless too, but nevermind that). considering that he will become WSS.
a character whos CoO is "utter gutter tier" :choppawhat: will become a One Piece top tier. get a load of this.
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When did kidd or killer dodge kaidos attacks? Oh wait you dont know that, its not baseless zoro couldnt deal with a 1vs1, gyukimaru kept getting hits in. If his haki was good he wouldnt have been that much of a problem.
Cobby will become an admiral too mate, yet hes still not that good now, its called character progression you goon. Stop using ''he will become'' as an argument, its fucking useless and irrelevant. Im talking about right now, and nothing so far has shown that zoro has good COO. And you saying luffy is dodging kaidos attacks without fs is pure headcanon.
Oden dodged a blast breath, something luffy did too. Big fucking deal. Im talking about when kaido is in his human form, in which he blitzed the fuck out of luffy. Why do you think Oda had luffy learn future sight one arc before fighting kaido?
You keep using that zoro will become top tier Eos as some sort of argument? I never once disagreed. Im talking about right now.
 
nik87

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
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#244
#244
Fujishiro said:
And yes luffys haki blocked the thoughest haki luffys has seen, stop ignoring that part of my message mate. Hes seen zoros haki, seen doffys and still said that.
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What Luffy said is this: His Haki is very strong.
Has Luffy ever gone against Zoro's haki or has he ever compared it to Cracker's?
No, you are full of headcanon. Luffy's Haki was broken by Hody without haki. Zoro would split him in half if Shounen would allow it.
 
Fujishiro

Fujishiro

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#247
#247
nik87 said:
What Luffy said is this: His Haki is very strong.
Has Luffy ever gone against Zoro's haki or has he ever compared it to Cracker's?
No, you are full of headcanon. Luffy's Haki was broken by Hody without haki. Zoro would split him in half if Shounen would allow it.
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He said he has the toughest haki ive ever seen, zoro got done in by nerfed killed. Zoro is not splitting luffy in half, prove he can.
 
HA001

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
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#248
#248
Fujishiro said:
Has he not? I stand corrected then.
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Fujishiro said:
He said he has the toughest haki ive ever seen, zoro got done in by nerfed killed. Zoro is not splitting luffy in half, prove he can.
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No he hasnt.
Zoro used full hardening so far against pica the bird cage and killer. Luffy wasnt present for any of them.

Killer didnt break zoros haki though. And one haki clad version of a move he used in fishman island put killer down.
 
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Mohammad211

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#249
#249
Fujishiro said:
Its still odas words, show me the other vivre cards please?
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Also in Another DB oda Said Zoro and luffy are Equal if im not wrong it was for thriller bark arc it's reasonable after Saboady zoro and Other straw hat wasn't involved in plot of main arc like impel down and MF and Luffy faced many strong opponent in that arcs and Become stronger
post time skip dont have any comparison of strenght between character it's about what we see post TS



Postskip Zoro

He transforms his three katanas into black blades and cuts down anyone in his way!
After undergoing fierce training under his sworn enemy, the warlord Mihawk, he reunited with the crew. He grew in strength thanks to having learned haki and is even more reliable than before! When they entered the New World, he defeated the strongest swordsman of Fishman Island in an instant and took down an executive of the Donquixote Family. In name and actuality, he has acquired the skill suited for a master swordsman. Even when danger approaches, he does not panic, but is able to calmly analyse the situation. He possesses the indomitable spirit that allows him to overcome any adversity.

Armament haki
During training, he was not allowed to drink and acquired haki! When clad in haki, his swords other than Shusui can become black blades that won't be scratched!

Crushing his opponents through sheer force of will! Even without using haki, he was able to paralyse a Logia user and showed her the difference in strength between them.

He took down the giant Pica, and then the Pica clad in armament haki, in just two strokes! The first time he used it, his secret technique was crushed by Mihawk, but two years later it has become incomparably stronger!

Gallery Memo
Even from the rough sketch, it was decided that he would have an eyepatch or a wound over his left eye! Maybe even a tattoo on his right arm!?


Zorojuro

The 'murderous ronin' Zorojuro - wanted by the entire country of Wano!
The Straw Hats infiltrated Wano ahead of Luffy and the others. Until they could gather allies and prepare for the battle ahead, Zoro was to lay low... or so he was supposed to!! Zoro was blamed for the crimes of grave robbing and 'tsujikiri' (street murders) and is currently a nationally wanted criminal of Wano. Currently he is in hiding but still being pursued. Nonetheless, Zoro's swordsmanship is still quite good, even for the country of Wano where many strong people reside. He's fighting off assassins one after another!

Zoro was very confident before setting out for Wano. Can he use his Santoryuu, yet still pass as one of the strong Wano samurai!?
Although his nakama were agitated and shaken by Sanji's departure from the crew, Zoro's gaze does not waver from the goal ahead!

Shusui is the national treasure of Wano! The predecessor to Zoro's Sandai Kitetsu, the Nidai Kitetsu has appeared!!

The sin of grave robbing
Zoro was accused of grave robbing because he was in possession of Shusui. But the culprit was probably Moria, who created Ryuma's zombie.

Gallery Memo
The pattern and design of Zoro's katanas were created one by one!
 
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Cyrus the Cactus

Cyrus the Cactus

Mihawk Reigns Supreme
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#250
#250
Shura said:
Enma thing was meaningless since Oden vs Kaido......
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Not really, it just showed that Enma isn’t some special dragon slaying sword, since Ame no Habakiri scarred Kaido as well.

@Fujishiro also that line about Cracker’s CoA being the hardest he’s encountered was a shitty mangastream translation - the official just states that it’s too hard.
 
HA001

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
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#252
#252
Shura said:
that is what I meant being "meaningless".....if Zoro will scar Kaido because he received Enma, then Momo should also scar Kaido since other sword also scarred Kaido.....
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If you were paying attention momo received the ame no habikiri is the snake slayer sword the sword literally famed in japan for slaying the yamata no orochi. Kind of makes it clear who that sword is going to be used against.
Wano has 2 tyrants who odens swords will be used to free wano from.
Which leaves zoro with enma vs kaido.
 
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trav

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#253
#253
Shura said:
No he didn't....Kaido hit Oden once and Oden hit Kaido once....Kaido got scar and Oden got KOed...he may have avoided that offguard attack with FS....
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the fight lasted long. you think they had a staring contest for the rest of the battle?

Shura said:
No, there is no information how the fight went down with Kaido but given the situation it could be utter massacre...
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Kidd said they fought until they collapsed which sounds more like exhaustion than getting absolutely overwhelmed.

Shura said:
Why not....BigMom is top tier without superior CoO....and apparently Kaido too.....BB didn't even have haki.....also, who said Zoro won't improve in his CoO in the future.....
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BM and Kaido both have good enough CoO. neither has "utter gutter tier" CoO. get real.
both are a very good examples that FS is not a requirement for anything in One Piece.
why would Zoro improve his CoO? it is good enough as it is. the claim that his CoO is trash comes from insecure individuals that dislike Zoro for one reason of another.
 
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