Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1044 Spoilers Discussion

[Outlaw]

Luffy is pretty much the same person he has been since he was 5 before the devil fruit.

There no strings controlling people, Luffy and OP is all about freedom

 

[DarkestKnightofSpoilers]

What if shanks wanted to eat the fruit and be the chosen one but it's ruined by Luffy

It's this jealousy and hatred made Shanks selling out Luffy to Gorosei and fuel the possible Luffy, Shanks conflict in the future like you wanted ? @Paperchampion23

That would split the internet apart

 

[Ballel]

It's possible Shanks couldn't eat the fruit

The fruit was able to escape from the WG and has a mind of its own, so chances are that it would only let a specific person eat it, like Luffy.

Maybe the DF's spirit itself has Haki...

 

[Akai]

Awakaned Kaido

Nobody is as strong as Luffy at this point. Kaido is already in awakening hybrid mode

 

[SkySanji]

Provide manga panel for proof.
Here you have Logias mentioned as invincible, your turn:

Near-invincible

And that's due to their intangibility, which has nothing to do with their overall power compared to Paramecia or Zoan

 

[Paperchampion23]

Btw, Yuderon was right in a way. Nika is 2/9, so Luffy basically covers the last part of the SH DF theory, something Oda was nervous about when someone asked him about it years ago.

Not sure where that leaves Yamato (still seems very clear she's joining to me), but maybe she has a spin on it somehow.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Luffy is pretty much the same person he has been since he was 5 before the devil fruit.

There no strings controlling people, Luffy and OP is all about freedom

sure it is bud

 

[Reborn]

So Luffy is JoyBoy because he has the same DF - Nika


Luffy is joyboy because he has same Will of D



Thus, anyone could become Joyboy but at the same time not everyone is apt to become joyboy.





Joyboy is a status or an ephitet

 

[Sentinel]

Kaido is just laughable at this point for Luffy. We need stronger opponents NOw

 

[Raughtale]

it's not about being mad at luffy for something that didn't apply till dressrosa
it's about realizing luffy might have completely been underutilizing his df while having a fruit that might possibly be on the tier of kaido's. seems less of an underdog when you begin to see it that way .
with rubber it felt the complete opposite.

My point is that he was still an underdog until recently, the only ways to exploit the new properties (that we know so far) has been through extensive haki use with Gear 4 which required training, and awakening which is rare among DF users, if we suddenly find out he had access to more all along maybe that would change but for most of his life as a DF user he didn't have much more than rubber abilities and trying to make the most of them.

 

[PewPiece]

So Luffy is JoyBoy because he has the same DF - Nika


Luffy is joyboy because he has same Will of D



Thus, anyone could become Joyboy but at the same time not everyone is apt to become joyboy.





Joyboy is a status or an ephitet

Can I ask u something , What's the convo between Luffy and Zunisha ?!

 

[Shiroyru]

Smoke/Swamp/Snow/Sand fruit. All of them have more offenses than the Pheonix fruit, and with decent haki you could be superior version of Katakuri each all of them.

What are you even talking about, we just show in this arc that the Phoenix fruit has good offensive capabilities. Don’t be a contrarian just to prove your point. Smoker does not have a better fruit than Marco lmao

 

[MarineHQ]

Where? Show me the panel.

Kizaru saying Mythical Zoans are rarer than Logia here:

Rayleigh calling Logias "Near-invincible" here and note how Mythical Zoans were already established:

 

[PenguinKing]

I’m not against it
I’m just explaining the whole Haki ending doesn’t necessarily mean it will end sometimes based on story logic with haki blooming

Oooh, gotcha. I misread the post, sorry about that

 

[Roo]

Btw, Yuderon was right in a way. Nika is 2/9, so Luffy basically covers the last part of the SH DF theory, something Oda was nervous about when someone asked him about it years ago.

Not sure where that leaves Yamato (still seems very clear she's joining to me), but maybe she has a spin on it somehow.

The next nakama won’t follow that pattern

 

[DarkestKnightofSpoilers]

since his crew isn't huge, the top 4 of his crew are stronger than the top 4 of other yonko crews, "facing them is like facing a wall" "balanced" this is why his crew is special, his best men are monsters and oda will show it soon

I agree with you on this ,but since all yonkos are shown to be this extreme from powergap perspective i doubt it will be so much diffrent in shanks crew but we will see

 

[Outlaw]

Btw, Yuderon was right in a way. Nika is 2/9, so Luffy basically covers the last part of the SH DF theory, something Oda was nervous about when someone asked him about it years ago.

Not sure where that leaves Yamato (still seems very clear she's joining to me), but maybe she has a spin on it somehow.

Doesn't work as even Chopper counts his Hito Hito in it.

So Luffys would not be 29

Beside greg says its dead anyway.

 

[Ask D question]

Am I the only one who thinks there's a link between cursed swords and zoans

The "they have a mind of their own" thing is something both have in common

Also sanji is the result of an experiment involving lineage factors, so he could very well be the embodiment of a devil fruit

 

[Moewu]

Yes, and that is why I think Robin said that the Goro Goro no mi is one of the invincible powers. because the same applies for Light, Magma, ice. I wouldn’t include fire and snow or other logias. There is no ultimate power that is to OP. Cuz we know the strength of the fruit depends on the user. The Nika fruit has not been awakened by anyone except Luffy in 800 years proving that it isn’t the fruit that makes you Joyboy but the user that can awakened the fruit is worthy of becoming Joyboy.

Oh i got you, i just thought this was another admirals aint top tier slander post.

 

[Reborn]

Can I ask u something , What's the convo between Luffy and Zunisha ?!

It's not that important that's why spoiler provider skipped it.