Powers & Abilities Advanced Conqueror Haki vs Devil Fruit Awakening

Which is the strongest power up?

  • Advanced Conqueror Haki

    Votes: 109 76.8%
  • Devil Fruit Awakening

    Votes: 13 9.2%
  • They are on the same level

    Votes: 20 14.1%

  • Total voters
    142
Anyone who has a DF (even bon clay or mr.3) with training can unlock awakening.

You can train your entire life, you ain't getting COC. And even if you are great fighters like doffy, prime chinjao or katakuri, still you need to be something else to use adv.coc. enough said.
No. Doflamingo mentioned awakening is “very rare”.

No one has awakened Gomu Gomu for 800 years.
 
Obviously awakening is the most powerful boost. It was the last powerup. People just went overboard with the new Hakis, because they were new.

But that doesn’t mean FS + ACoA/ACoC are useless. Just not as OP as people think.
You can't compare the main character's DF Awakening of a special DF with all his shenanigans and what not, as if it was the standard for any DF Awakening. The Gomu Gomu is something extremely special, and also for example the Ope Ope is as well. Most Devil Fruits can't hold that standard.
While, on the other side, you need a minimum starting level to unlock Advanced Conqueror Haki.

Proof of this it the fact that Doflamingo and Katakuri had both a DF and Conqueror Haki, and they managed to unlock DF Awakening, but they could not unlock Advanced Conqueror.
 
You can't compare the main character's DF Awakening of a special DF with all his shenanigans and what not, as if it was the standard for any DF Awakening.
While, on the other side, you need a minimum starting level to unlock Advanced Conqueror Haki.

Proof of this it the fact that Doflamingo and Katakuri had both a DF and Conqueror Haki, and they managed to unlock DF Awakening, but they could not unlock Advanced Conqueror.
They could not unlock something that Oda made up 60 chapters ago. There is 0 indication that ACoC was a thing before the Roger/WB fight.

Kaido and BM fought and they didn’t use it. Same for Shanks and WB.
 
They could not unlock something that Oda made up 60 chapters ago. There is 0 indication that ACoC was a thing before the Roger/WB fight.

Kaido and BM fought and they didn’t use it. Same for Shanks and WB.
It doesn't matter.
Oda made sure to have Kaido say that "only a handful of the very strongest can".
He didn't have Kaido say that "any Conqueror Haki user can".
The difference is massive.
 
Again, he didn’t. I already covered this. VIZ fucked up. Kaido just said “only some strong people can use it”. Not strongest.
Viz messed up this bad.
Anyone who has a DF (even bon clay or mr.3) with training can unlock awakening.

You can train your entire life, you ain't getting COC. And even if you are great fighters like doffy, prime chinjao or katakuri, still you need to be something else to use adv.coc. enough said.
the strongest devil fruit with awakening> Coating, luffy awakening came after him mastering coating for a rzn.

I'd take magu, gomu, yami awakening over coc anyday
 
It's a biased take cuz you all are thinking about the most broken fruits who's awakenings would be better than acoc. That alone should be a key indicator on how powerful acoc is that only a handful of fruit awakenings are looked at as better. So overall acoc>awakening
 
It's a biased take cuz you all are thinking about the most broken fruits who's awakenings would be better than acoc. That alone should be a key indicator on how powerful acoc is that only a handful of fruit awakenings are looked at as better. So overall acoc>awakening
You guys keep saying this for everything. Oh it's only Law's DF it's broken. Oh it's only Luffy's DF it's broken.

What matters at the end is the "base" level. Like I said, Base Goku by the end of DBZ > SSJ Goku in Namek.
 
Gomu Gomu Nika Awakening > AdvCoC >= Top Tier DF Awakening (Law and Kidd) > Low Tier DF Awakening (Kata and Doflamingo)

Generally Adv CoC is stronger than Awakening. The latter depends on the DF, and based on DF can have higher peaks

We have to see yet another level of Adv CoC tho
 
Doflamingo has both Conqueror Haki and a DF, unlocked only DF Awakening but could not achieve Adv CoC.
Katakuri has both Conqueror Haki and a DF, unlocked only DF Awakening but could not achieve Adv CoC.
Kidd has both Conqueror Haki and a DF, unlocked only DF Awakening but, up to now, could still not achieve Adv CoC.
Never seen the opposite.

It seems that characters like Crocodile and Perospero, who are in the lowest tier of YCs, also achieved DF Awakening. While the weakest character to have Adv CoC is Yamato, someone who at the very worst is at least as strong as YC1s.
Plus Kaido's words.

To me it seems clear that on a world panorama Adv CoC > Awakening.
Nika Nika/Gomu Gomu and also Ope Ope aren't your standard DFs, you can't use them as standard for Awakening.

Nika Nika Awakening > Advanced Conqueror > Top DFs Awakening >> Common DFs Awakening
 
You guys keep saying this for everything. Oh it's only Law's DF it's broken. Oh it's only Luffy's DF it's broken.

What matters at the end is the "base" level. Like I said, Base Goku by the end of DBZ > SSJ Goku in Namek.
One has nothing to do with the other.
You are trying to push something that it doesn't make sense at all.
Will Luffy beat IM or bb with just his awakening?
We cannot say which is strongest and yes ofc the df counts in the discussion.
What we can say for sure is that adv CoC is way more rare than df awakening and should be a reason for that.
 
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