General & Others The problem with Zkk

[Thabeast]

The problem with ZKK is salty Luffy fans who can't accept someone else taking the spotlight for once besides him and some other fanbases that don't want Zoro to shine at all...

Narratively, I see no problem, Oda has been hinting at it a lot, only the blind cannot see it at this point. Dudes will wank Oda for foreshadowing G5 a few chapters prior with a damn color page and say it is good written but then say ZKK is badly written and cannot happen when you can argue that Oda has been preparing for it before Wano even started... People like Rogersbase (who isn't a Zoro fan) for example made a theory for ZKK in 2016.

Strenght wise, no problem. Zoro has powered up massively from before where he was already able to scar Kaido. And he is undergoing some kind of Awakening at this moment. So he is going to get even stronger.

So I don't see any issue besides pettiness from other fandoms.

 

[Steven]

Some ZTards cope as usual

Its the most cringe theory of all.Luffy would never Zorro allow it

 

[nik87]

Sorry to break it to you, but from my experience, specially the ZKK Fandom is pretty much toxic, since they dont accept any kind of other opinion, call people stupid, or claim they cant read, cant powerscale or whatever. Even you stated i couldnt powerscale etc., i would be simply wrong etc.. Thats not sharing opinions or discussions, its just shouting at each other and claiming to be right.

Telling people that they cant power scale after they have proven over and over that to be true is toxic?
From my own experience, the only toxicity among ZKK fandom comes from those who have low tolerance for bullshit.
Considering how much of BS is used to prove that ZKK aint happening, cant say I blame them.

Once/if it happens, it will prove a lot of things that pro-ZKK/anti-ZKK faction doesnt want to.
If it does happen, in your specific case, you cant power scale. There is nothing toxic about that.
I didnt shout at you claiming myself to be right, I explained why your approach is wrong if ZKK happens.

 

[Finalbeta]

The only way to make this site cleaner is punishing offences more fiercely instead of letting insults like stupid retard and other personal offences pass in quarantine too easily.

Tbh Zoro fans are far from the sole source of toxicity.

 

[Tai long]

Who was the last opponent that changed his personality because Luffy beat him?

crocodile and enel

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The problem with ZKK is salty Luffy fans who can't accept someone else taking the spotlight for once besides him and some other fanbases that don't want Zoro to shine at all...

Narratively, I see no problem, Oda has been hinting at it a lot, only the blind cannot see it at this point. Dudes will wank Oda for foreshadowing G5 a few chapters prior with a damn color page and say it is good written but then say ZKK is badly written and cannot happen when you can argue that Oda has been preparing for it before Wano even started... People like Rogersbase (who isn't a Zoro fan) for example made a theory for ZKK in 2016.

Strenght wise, no problem. Zoro has powered up massively from before where he was already able to scar Kaido. And he is undergoing some kind of Awakening at this moment. So he is going to get even stronger.

So I don't see any issue besides pettiness from other fandoms.

the problem is that kaido doesn't care about zoro, so him getting defeated by someone he doesn't know or care about would be a bad way to end kaido as a character

 

[Pantheos]

Telling people that they cant power scale after they have proven over and over that to be true is toxic?
From my own experience, the only toxicity among ZKK fandom comes from those who have low tolerance for bullshit.
Considering how much of BS is used to prove that ZKK aint happening, cant say I blame them.

Once/if it happens, it will prove a lot of things that pro-ZKK/anti-ZKK faction doesnt want to.
If it does happen, in your specific case, you cant power scale. There is nothing toxic about that.
I didnt shout at you claiming myself to be right, I explained why your approach is wrong if ZKK happens.

you do it again…
Not your opinion -> „can’t PowerScale“, „other opinions bullshit“, toxicness is not blamable as long as they share your opinion…

i leaned my lesson, you are not interested in discussions, or not able to, I don’t know, but I don’t need to have further discussions with you from my private view.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Enel for example. Was he not a tyrannical ruler? After he was defeated by luffy he did not wait until he left to start unleashing havoc on the people of sky island.

He left and did not rule over any other island.

He became an explorer.

Pretty sure you skipped Skypia.

 

[nik87]

you do it again…
Not your opinion -> „can’t PowerScale“, „other opinions bullshit“, toxicness is not blamable as long as they share your opinion…

i leaned my lesson, you are not interested in discussions, or not able to, I don’t know, but I don’t need to have further discussions with you from my private view.

I am not doing it... You are blaming me because you have no other option, I guess.
Just wait until we see how Wano concludes and how the blame gets thrown around then...

It is not my opinion that people cant power scale Zoro, it is a hard proven fact.
Anyone saying they are power scaling Zoro correctly after a debacle they faced in Wano, is simply lying.

Nobody can pretend that they power scale Zoro right when even I, who ranks him highest, haven't ranked him high enough.

 

[notAfanboy]

Zoro haters are worried that for once Luffy won't be the one who gets all the credit and praised as the big hero of the arc by all the natives. They also hate the idea that Zoro would get individual fame that would likely make him more feared than Luffy, even though that's kind of already the case.

Or maybe it is just you who want to prove this point and need a validation from Oda through ZKK?

I stay away from these discussions. I am good with both sides enjoying the story through whichever lense they see the progress.

There are things that I want to happen, but if others dont agree with me, should I take them to the court and have them write on paper why they dont agree with me?
Just so that I can refute their arguments and slander them later on for why their thinking is flawed?

The basic purpose of this thread is, again, to go against those who do not think that ZKK will happen.
For a moment, keep this ZKK stuff to yourselves, anticipate what is about to happen, enjoy the progress, and let others have their own opinions.

 

[HA001]

Or maybe it is just you who want to prove this point and need a validation from Oda through ZKK?

I stay away from these discussions. I am good with both sides enjoying the story through whichever lense they see the progress.

There are things that I want to happen, but if others dont agree with me, should I take them to the court and have them write on paper why they dont agree with me?
Just so that I can refute their arguments and slander them later on for why their thinking is flawed?

The basic purpose of this thread is, again, to go against those who do not think that ZKK will happen.
For a moment, keep this ZKK stuff to yourselves, anticipate what is about to happen, enjoy the progress, and let others have their own opinions.

Tell this to the people who make zkk is dead threads constantky every week since 1008

Why don't you stfu instead

 

[mrtsrdr]

There is no problem about it . Problem is zoro retards. Everybody knows that even if zkk happens which is impossible square , kaido have been felt by luffy before execution . But zoro retards will say ooohh nooo zoro is god kaido is at full power .ddd

 

[HA001]

There is no problem about it . Problem is zoro retards. Everybody knows that even if zkk happens which is impossible square , kaido have been felt by luffy before execution . But zoro retards will say ooohh nooo zoro is god kaido is at full power .ddd

Luffy isn't beating full power kaido

Luffy after a million power ups is scraping a nerfed kaido and knocking him down for 5 mins

 

[mrtsrdr]

Luffy isn't beating full power kaido

Luffy after a million power ups is scraping a nerfed kaido and knocking him down for 5 mins

Dude , which of my fucking sentences say luffy will beat full power kaido ?

 

[HA001]

Dude , which of my fucking sentences say luffy will beat full power kaido ?

That's the point. Kaido will be up before zoro kills him.

 

[Adam-san]

Pretty sure you skipped Skypia.

its been a while since ive watched it so its only normal if i forget some parts but im pretty sure enel is a tyrant and wanted to rule the world with a flying ship that would run on electricity?

Please correct me if im wrong

 

[notAfanboy]

Tell this to the people who make zkk is dead threads constantky every week since 1008

Why don't you stfu instead

Give shut up call to them, not me,
They will make you understand in your language.

 

[HA001]

its been a while since ive watched it so its only normal if i forget some parts but im pretty sure enel is a tyrant and wanted to rule the world with a flying ship that would run on electricity?

No. Enel achieved his dream
He was leaving anyway and was gonna blow skypia up

 

[Adam-san]

No. Enel achieved his dream
He was leaving anyway and was gonna blow skypia up

My bad its been ages since i watched skypea

 

[mrtsrdr]

That's the point. Kaido will be up before zoro kills him.

When zoro gor wounded by kuma , he carried his wounds till training arc . When mihawk cut zoro , he carried his wounds till end of the arlong park . Which manga part make you believe zoro will come back by saving deig effects ? Which miracle are u expecting for drug effect ? What is the your solution ? Chopper clear said if you got this drug , when effect lost , he will be useless totally . And grim repaer thing demonstrates that drug effect started as chopper said . If you believe something , you have to have solution for situation , okey ?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I think the reason no one can discuss ZKK is that any discussion turns into:

“You’re a dumbass for thinking it’s possible”
“You’re a dumbass who can’t powerscale because you don’t get how much Oda loves Grandmaster”

There’s no way to discuss it without toxicity from all sides