General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet
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I get the feeling another dream Yamato will gain beyond wanting to adventure out and open Wano's borders will have something to do with freedom specifically. A recurring thing with previous Straw Hats is that if they have a passion, there's usually something that threatens that passion to the point that the recruit will try to defend it as hard as they can, but in the end can only accomplish it with Luffy's help after he becomes interested in them. Since Yamato values freedom so much, she might not be wanting freedom for only herself and Wano, but also the entire rest of the world.
I get the feeling another dream Yamato will gain beyond wanting to adventure out and open Wano's borders will have something to do with freedom specifically. A recurring thing with previous Straw Hats is that if they have a passion, there's usually something that threatens that passion to the point that the recruit will try to defend it as hard as they can, but in the end can only accomplish it with Luffy's help after he becomes interested in them. Since Yamato values freedom so much, she might not be wanting freedom for only herself and Wano, but also the entire rest of the world.
He saw himself weak because he was an 8 year old child. Yamato was there to give it directly to Momo because Yamato didn’t know what might happen to Momo later. Would you be sure that Momo wouldn’t be killed by Kaido before reading Oden’s journal and see what’s important in his journal? Would you be sure if Momo didn’t read the journal Momo would decide to mature up and help the raid?
Momo read the journal only made his desire to be a shogun gets stronger, also showing that he’s a worthy shogun of Wano.
Momo read the journal only made his desire to be a shogun gets stronger, also showing that he’s a worthy shogun of Wano.
Well let's compare Law and Yamato. Both were waiting for Luffy for the same amount of time. Both had original plans to take down an abusive figure in their lives that eventually had to involve Luffy do to unintended circumstances. Both were both seen initial as equals or on equal footing to Luffy. Both were given similar nicknames by Luffy, Tra-guy and Yama-guy. Both fought the main villain and their flashback in this fight. Luffy then took over this fight. In the last round of the fight both watched on.
For why Yamato keeps saying they'll join Luffy. Yamato's a red herring.
For why Yamato keeps saying they'll join Luffy. Yamato's a red herring.
But Law has repeatedly and ferociously denied being Luffy’s subordinate when others have mistaken him as such, that hardly seems comparable to someone who has said they WANT to sail on his ship several times…and the red herring thing is low hanging fruit, you aren’t reading OP if you think Oda isn’t giving us an Oden cosplayer immediately after showing us the man himself holding onto a chain of the Moby Dick for three straight days because he wanted to leave Wano so badly.
So where is it stated that Law waited years to join Luffy's crew, got a personal recommendation by his brother, and declared to Doflamingo that he wanted to sail with him?
Btw, Luffy wants him as a crewmate despite giving him the same nickname Yamato has.
So because it doesn't make sense for Oda's intent to just be to make her an ally, it must be bait? You can think of something better.
Btw, Luffy wants him as a crewmate despite giving him the same nickname Yamato has.
So because it doesn't make sense for Oda's intent to just be to make her an ally, it must be bait? You can think of something better.
I'm not faulting the character. Calling something bad write is just calling something bad writing.
Yes I know Shinobu was also protecting Momo. I was saying Shinobu alone would protect Momo. And I doubt Luffy would lose a fourth or fifth round. If he did, Momo would have defend himself until Luffy recovers. It would work a dramatic scene.
Because what made Momo want to become an adult was him seeing how weak he was. It wasn't Yamato's proclamation of them saying they would protect Momo with their life.
I'm not talking in world time together. I'm talking panel time which Franky and Brook had plenty of. Like joining the crew isn't just about following Luffy. The person also needs to have a repertoire with the others, too.
So him reading the journal isn't actually. Cause like you said everyone knows Momo is important, so it wouldn't matter if he read the journal during the raid or after.
Yes I know Shinobu was also protecting Momo. I was saying Shinobu alone would protect Momo. And I doubt Luffy would lose a fourth or fifth round. If he did, Momo would have defend himself until Luffy recovers. It would work a dramatic scene.
Because what made Momo want to become an adult was him seeing how weak he was. It wasn't Yamato's proclamation of them saying they would protect Momo with their life.
I'm not talking in world time together. I'm talking panel time which Franky and Brook had plenty of. Like joining the crew isn't just about following Luffy. The person also needs to have a repertoire with the others, too.
So him reading the journal isn't actually. Cause like you said everyone knows Momo is important, so it wouldn't matter if he read the journal during the raid or after.
If Yamato wasn't by Momo's side, that would be a great additional motivation for Yamato to help in the Raid. Not only is their and Wano's freedom at stake, they must deliver Oden's last memento to his son. It would make a great plot point and would create some tension whenever Momo was in danger. That's not really a point towards Yamato and Momo being together being necessary.
The only thing it did was confirm to Momo that he had to survive the Raid.
The only thing it did was confirm to Momo that he had to survive the Raid.
Luffy making friends is easier than breathing for him, that's not new. However, no character has gotten the amount of background baggage that Yamato has gotten specifically with Luffy. You could remove everything about her past except that she hates her father and that would have been enough for Luffy to accept her. Hell, he's accepted others with far less like Caribou. All of the other bits: wanting to leave specifically with Luffy, making Ace's Vivre Card and having him quote her to Luffy, being the reason Luffy was able to find Ace for his final moments, being enraptured by Ace's stories of Luffy and crying at hearing what his true dreams are and that Roger said the same thing, will mean nothing. That's too much heavy background for someone that's just going to end up being a +1 on a list of allies for Momo.
As for other characters, the only ones comparable are Law and Momo, who have been established as the major Straw Hat allies who have ties to deeper events or mysteries of the One Piece world. Law could remain as a rival, thereby him not joining makes sense and is still in line with his character. At the same time, he wants to know the meaning behind the Will of D. which is seemingly why he took an interest in Luffy and why he saved him at Marineford since he was the only other D. member he presumably knew of. He can keep sailing with Luffy, as a Straw Hat officially or in spirit. Either way will be satisfactory for his character. Momo is the other half of bringing the Dawn to the world and leading Wano back from the brink, so he's got a satisfying arc regardless of joining Luffy. Yamato gains nothing from having all this set up to leaving with Luffy just to say at the end "nah, changed my dream, I'll just stick around Wano." That will be a waste and makes most of her flashbacks, and her character as a whole, mean nothing.
As for other characters, the only ones comparable are Law and Momo, who have been established as the major Straw Hat allies who have ties to deeper events or mysteries of the One Piece world. Law could remain as a rival, thereby him not joining makes sense and is still in line with his character. At the same time, he wants to know the meaning behind the Will of D. which is seemingly why he took an interest in Luffy and why he saved him at Marineford since he was the only other D. member he presumably knew of. He can keep sailing with Luffy, as a Straw Hat officially or in spirit. Either way will be satisfactory for his character. Momo is the other half of bringing the Dawn to the world and leading Wano back from the brink, so he's got a satisfying arc regardless of joining Luffy. Yamato gains nothing from having all this set up to leaving with Luffy just to say at the end "nah, changed my dream, I'll just stick around Wano." That will be a waste and makes most of her flashbacks, and her character as a whole, mean nothing.
Momo is the main character in Yonko Saga, and Luffy trusted Yamato enough to protect Momo to stay alive.
And how Momo can survive the raid? Yes, by maturing himself. At least being a 28 year old, he is much stronger than he was 8 years old. Momo knows he must survive the Raid, and he doesn’t want to burden anyone else protecting him all the time by being a helpless 8 year old child.
And how Momo can survive the raid? Yes, by maturing himself. At least being a 28 year old, he is much stronger than he was 8 years old. Momo knows he must survive the Raid, and he doesn’t want to burden anyone else protecting him all the time by being a helpless 8 year old child.
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