Powers & Abilities Where is Kaido's awakening?

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#82
The Koi theory is imo is the best one when it comes to his awakening. Kaido started with a really weak DF that eventually evolved into this giant dragon due to Kaido's battle prowess
That isnt how it works though?

Kaku has the Ox Ox fruit model: Giraffe. He is a Giraffe, not an Ox. Same applies to Kaidou, he's a Fish Fish fruit model: Azure Dragon, making him an Azure Dragon and not a Fish/Carp.

xyz xyz fruit model: abc means the user is "abc" while "xyz" simply represents the genus they are classified into.
 
#83
I'm seriously having very dark flashbacks with King whom we thought had awakened his DF as well. But in Kaido's case, it would be even worse. I'd consider taking a break from OP if this comes out to be true. :josad:
Exactly, with King we even got the "foreshadowing" statement from Marco that Lunarians could Burst into flames but Oda never showed that at all.
That is the frustrating part, because we can see the logical writing coming but then Oda just throws it all away for a Raizou flashback and the 20th Momo flashback while Kaido doesn't even have a proper flashback.:seriously:
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
#85
>kaido is at his limit
>island is about to fall, flame clouds disappearing

no guys, kaido is still not using his strongest form for some reason :suresure:
Doffy only used god thread in last resort against KKG even if he was pummeled by G4 like a bitch and could have lost before

Oda….
 
#87
Exactly, with King we even got the "foreshadowing" statement from Marco that Lunarians could Burst into flames but Oda never showed that at all.
That is the frustrating part, because we can see the logical writing coming but then Oda just throws it all away for a Raizou flashback and the 20th Momo flashback while Kaido doesn't even have a proper flashback.:seriously:
i think we can call jackpot that
 
#88
If he would be awakened already, he would make it similar as with Katakuri:


Oda had enough chance to give Kaido a small speech where he state that he is awakened to like Luffy.
But he didn´t, same for BM, people assume something of ass to give a character a ability with was never confirmed.
Do you think Oda is this low and offscreen/no name a awakened power of a Yonkou?

There is a reason why Kaido power get special named with Drunken mode, that is not awakened power so far.
He can enter that bulker mode without being drunk as we saw in this chapter.

Anyway if there's no other awakened form for kaido
I'd just assume this one was Kaido's awakened mode
 
#89
Oh boy if Kaidou AND Big Mom don't have awakening, the "COC + Awakening = Low Top Tier/5th Emperor level" gang is gonna go missing for a while lmao. Already their headcanons took a major hit with Big Mom not having awakening and COC KKG but I guess this would be the last straw lmfao.
This was bullshit ever since King didn't have COC or awakening.
Anyway, they would be silent for sure. Imagine arguing basic COC is sufficient for powerscaling when imbuing COC gives the true potential. Neither Doffy nor Kata have this ability. And awakening was bested by non-awakened Luffy, at least when it comes to Doffy I guess.

However, Kaido not having awakening would be the last straw for me to take a break from the manga for sure.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#90
Doffy only used god thread in last resort against KKG even if he was pummeled by G4 like a bitch and could have lost before

Oda….
"Pummeled by G4 like a bitch"
Doffy took 3 hits and then instantly used awakening. Didn't take the fourth hit until the next 20 minutes was done and all this was after Gamma Knife. G4 legitimately struggled to even hit Doffy in those 20 minutes having to deal with his superior aerial mobility while fighting off building sized strings.
 
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Sasaki Kojirō

#92
For now, the fact that the kaidou has withstood so many attacks and continues to fight like a monster so far has not been related to his awakening, this is pure resistance, the awakening has not yet and will not justify this monstrous feat of the kaidou, and it still continues firm and strong, if that's the intention of some here I'm sorry to tell you this, but it doesn't make sense, part of the damage the kaidou received was in his base form that doesn't include any awakening, the other part was in the normal hybrid form that also does not include any awakening, he also received blows like OVER KING KONG GUN in dragon form which by the way also does not include awakening, he has never received an attack in his strongest forms like: drunk assassin.
 
#93
Oh boy if Kaidou AND Big Mom don't have awakening, the "COC + Awakening = Low Top Tier/5th Emperor level" gang is gonna go missing for a while lmao. Already their headcanons took a major hit with Big Mom not having awakening and COC KKG but I guess this would be the last straw lmfao.
You're just on copium

CoC + advanced haki or awakening is what every pirate who's inbetweener/top tier has (except Law who doesn't have CoC yet)
Kaido and BM lacking awakening doesn't change a thing

You're salty coz King lacks CoC, awakening and advanced haki
Lacks all 3 ...doesn't have 1
 
#94
"Pummeled by G4 like a bitch"
Doffy took 3 hits and then instantly used awakening. Didn't take the fourth hit until the next 20 minutes was done and all this was after Gamma Knife. G4 legitimately struggled to even hit Doffy in those 20 minutes having to deal with his superior aerial mobility while fighting off building sized strings.
Since when did you become a Doffy fanboy, getting ragdolled means Luffy was struggling?
 
#97
That isnt how it works though?

Kaku has the Ox Ox fruit model: Giraffe. He is a Giraffe, not an Ox. Same applies to Kaidou, he's a Fish Fish fruit model: Azure Dragon, making him an Azure Dragon and not a Fish/Carp.

xyz xyz fruit model: abc means the user is "abc" while "xyz" simply represents the genus they are classified into.
I want to make it clear that I hopped off this theory awhile back, but it does make sense if we look at this through the lense of mythical zoans

Luffy's fruit is the hito hito no mi. Before it's awakening it just made luffy a rubber human. It literally kept Luffy as a human, but gifted him rubber abilities.

For Kaido, the fish fish fruit if we go by this theory would just give him the fish scales(which we know he keeps in his base form)


When both abilities awaken, the users are granted a new form(Gear 5 and Dragon Abilities)

If thats true Marco was a pigeon before he became a phoenix :seriously:
Okay? That's not a bad thing lol. Marco ate a bird fruit and his fruit evolved into a phoenix at some point. Shit since Zoans have a mind of their own you could create a system where the fruits grant the awakening after something is achieved. For example, maybe Kaido had to constantly fight, maybe Yamato had to have the will to save Wano, maybe Marco had to die or be burnt alive before awakening
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
#98
"Pummeled by G4 like a bitch"
Doffy took 3 hits and then instantly used awakening. Didn't take the fourth hit until the next 20 minutes was done and all this was after Gamma Knife. G4 legitimately struggled to even hit Doffy in those 20 minutes having to deal with his superior aerial mobility while fighting off building sized strings.
He was dominated head and shoulders : Kong Gun, rhino, Culverin, Head Butt and then Leo Bazooka.

He tried to do the best he could but he was dominated hard and he clearly saw that he couldn’t really hurt Luffy anymore (luffy rubber + haki)

And Doffy still chose to keep God thread hidden even if he was pressured hard and was at risk to lose anytime.

So yeah it doesn’t really make sense

It was just for last clash purpose and storytelling by Oda. By fighting wise it’s stupid.
 
#99
For awakening to be such an important factor this arc I think it’s important to tell us when the antagonists are doing it, so rn I’m just going to assume BM or Kaido haven’t used it. I don’t think everything should be spelled out but for this type of thing I think it should be.
 
He was dominated head and shoulders : Kong Gun, rhino, Culverin, Head Butt and then Leo Bazooka.

He wa spritz yes himself the best he could but he was dominated hard and he clearly saw that he couldn’t really hurt Luffy anymore (luffy rubber + haki)

And Doffy still chose to keep God thread hidden even if he was pressured hard and was at risk to lose anytime.

So yeah it doesn’t really make sense

It was just for last clash purpose and storytelling by Oda. By fighting wise it’s stupid.
Don't forget that Doflamingo refused - for whatever reasons - to imbue his awakened strings with hardening to attack Bound Man.
I still can't grasp what Oda let to this nonsense but I guess it is what it is.
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But then, Orochi turned into his mythical Zoan within days of acquiring the fruit. Same goes for the fox that attacked Zoro in act 2, who had a mythical Onyudo fruit or something.

I dont think its awakening.
True I didn't think about that.
Well, it sums up that Oda really needs to confirm stuff how Zoan awakening works. Luffy's awakening is an anomaly even among Zoan awakenings as he has abilities of awakened paramecia as well which Kaido questioned.
 
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