Spoiler One Piece Chapter 974 Spoilers Discussion
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It was definitely hinted
However , i do partially with Hpysche it was pretty hard to point kanjuro after he was shown to die along with them.
He even seemed to fondly remember oden during his death. Haha not complaining but kanjuro is def interesting person , i wish we can learn more from the story.
What means of communication does Raizo have to the Beast Pirates? Kanjuro had the information and every means to contact Orochi and Kaido. Also, why would Raizo contact Jack and not meet with him? Seems counter-intuitive.
The difference is, Kin'emon has been the most fleshed out Scabbard. He also was the only one with Momonosuke. If he were the traitor, why not report of Momo's location? If he could contact the Beast Pirates, he'd tell them where Momo was, not Raizo.
The difference is, Kin'emon has been the most fleshed out Scabbard. He also was the only one with Momonosuke. If he were the traitor, why not report of Momo's location? If he could contact the Beast Pirates, he'd tell them where Momo was, not Raizo.
1. His resemblance to an artist doesn't really indicate he was acting. There's a lot of reference to Kabuki.
2. The birds do not necessarily indicate anything other than we see birds. Do the birds look like drawings? Not to my recollection.
3. As you said, Kinemon and Kanjuro knoew. Therefore, we could have said Kinemon was the traitor, but is there evidence? No, and the same case can be said for Kanjuro. There was really nothing outstanding.
4. A Kurozumi got access to Momo's face. Anyone who can take on the apperance of others can infiltrate anywhere. Someone who can change identity doesn't exactly need an insider to let them infiltrate. Could just appear as a kid and enter the Kozuki family. It's easy is my point.
5. That's not proof. Anyone could have been the spy if Oda wanted it to be.
2. The birds do not necessarily indicate anything other than we see birds. Do the birds look like drawings? Not to my recollection.
3. As you said, Kinemon and Kanjuro knoew. Therefore, we could have said Kinemon was the traitor, but is there evidence? No, and the same case can be said for Kanjuro. There was really nothing outstanding.
4. A Kurozumi got access to Momo's face. Anyone who can take on the apperance of others can infiltrate anywhere. Someone who can change identity doesn't exactly need an insider to let them infiltrate. Could just appear as a kid and enter the Kozuki family. It's easy is my point.
5. That's not proof. Anyone could have been the spy if Oda wanted it to be.
He said Inuarashi and Nekomamushi can't be traitors because they proved loyalty. So did Kanjuro.
If you read the spoilers, the reason why Kinemon couldn't believe him initially was because he had proven loyalty.
The person who made that video got it right, granted, their reasoning is not correct. In essence, he made a good guess.
There was no evidence or much hint.
He said Kanjuro telling Shinobu to calm down = His wanting Law to get cut? Looks more like he's actually trying to calm her down. That's what an ally does. Calms people down and stops them from acting irrational.
He says Hawkins using Kairoseki nails against Law is proof Kanjuro was the culprit. Hawkins fights with nails in general. Why wouldn't he have Kairoseki nails to fight DF users to begin with?
His reasoning is incorrect, there really was no hint or evidence.
It was literally Oda choosing to making Kanjuro the culprit which is why he had to make up new information that we didn't know about to explain why he was the culprit.
If Oda didn't say:
We'd at this point have no evidence as to why he's the culprit or likely the culprit.
If you read the spoilers, the reason why Kinemon couldn't believe him initially was because he had proven loyalty.
The person who made that video got it right, granted, their reasoning is not correct. In essence, he made a good guess.
There was no evidence or much hint.
He said Kanjuro telling Shinobu to calm down = His wanting Law to get cut? Looks more like he's actually trying to calm her down. That's what an ally does. Calms people down and stops them from acting irrational.
He says Hawkins using Kairoseki nails against Law is proof Kanjuro was the culprit. Hawkins fights with nails in general. Why wouldn't he have Kairoseki nails to fight DF users to begin with?
His reasoning is incorrect, there really was no hint or evidence.
It was literally Oda choosing to making Kanjuro the culprit which is why he had to make up new information that we didn't know about to explain why he was the culprit.
If Oda didn't say:
- He was a Kurozumi.
- An actor.
- Wanted to die.
We'd at this point have no evidence as to why he's the culprit or likely the culprit.
There was no evidence in the first place that Kanjuro had means of communication.
Anyone of the scabbards knew where Momonosuke was.
Kanjuro knew Momonosuke's location the entire time.
Kanjuro, Kinemon and Momonosuke were essentially all in Wano before Luffy arrived.
If your argument is Momo's location wasn't given out in time, then that essentially eliminates the scabbards from being tratiors from a logical stand point.
Anyone of the scabbards knew where Momonosuke was.
Kanjuro knew Momonosuke's location the entire time.
Kanjuro, Kinemon and Momonosuke were essentially all in Wano before Luffy arrived.
If your argument is Momo's location wasn't given out in time, then that essentially eliminates the scabbards from being tratiors from a logical stand point.
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