[FNZ] Role Madness Game 03: One Piece Dressrosa

[Jew D. Boy]

@Kiwipom @Jew D. Boy Are you two active? Can you two claim? It will help town a lot to determine who is scum.

This game is really not growing on me...what do we have to claim?

 

[Bogard]

I unvote Finalbeta

And I will explain why:

@Reborn @Finalbeta

Guys, at the moment, you are accusing each other because of certain points which do not mean much. Reborn was obviously focused on finding scums, he made his decision very clear against TAC on day 2. And @Finalbeta, you said you are going to accuse Reborn despite of him telling the truth about TAC? You want to lynch him although there are no arguments for Reborn being a scum? This is absolutely wrong, stop that nonsense.

And @Reborn, you clearly waste your focus on irrelevant things. Finalbeta accuses you BUT this doesn't necessarily mean he is a scum as well. And could you explain to me why you accuse Finalbeta being a scum? Except the fact that he argues against you, there are no other suspicious points.

Either way, @Finalbeta and @Reborn, just look at those posts:




Although it was quite clear that TAC was going to be lynched, Bogard changed his vote on TAC when it was irrelevant anyway and at this point, he simply wanted that user wouldn't believe that he tried to defend TAC.
But at the end, his vote didn't count anymore.

Let's look at day 2:



Bogard simply went along with the majority since it was obvious that Rej was a scum at this point.

It is usual that scums mostly play defensive and rather go with the majority to prevent that people recognize their mistakes. It is a very safe play.

At this point, I'd rather vote for Bogard. Jew could fit on this description as well but I think we should take out Bogard at first.

Hence I can only advise you, @Finalbeta and @Reborn, to vote Bogard.

I vote Bogard

What are you talking about? I'm the one who pushed the Rej case since the beginning. I already discussed with @Reborn about it.

In day phase 2, i voted Rej once again at the beginning until Finalbeta 1.0 's role made it seem like he was lying about his role. But it was cleared later to have been a misunderstanding between Denim and Finalbeta 1.0, which naturally placed Rej obvious scum again

I'm the one who also reminded people that we needed 8 votes to lynch Rej at that point. Re-read this post of mine. I'm even the one who pointed this out

Currently busy at work, but i noticed this post


So remember we need 8 votes to reach majority, and i think we have few hours left, so regardless of the current case behind TAC, i think voting either Final or Rej should be the priority now

I literally did everything to catch Rej, which isn't what a scum would do

 

[Reborn]

This is what TAC's ability says:

[Active - Gamma Knife] using your overpowered ability, target a player and destroy their organs so bad that they need to go to the hospital. The next day phase, that player will not be allowed to post. [2-shot]

This is pretty clear.

If he targetted you, you wouldn't have been able to post at all!

And? If there could be a tracker and watcher and supposedly two blockers (NW and sen) but somehow there can't be two role modifiers???


As I said, you are totally on wrong track...

 

[NeutralWatcher]

This game is really not growing on me...what do we have to claim?

Your role and skill so we know who is townie and scum

 

[Finalbeta]

And? If there could be a tracker and watcher and supposedly two blockers (NW and sen) but somehow there can't be two role modifiers???


As I said, you are totally on wrong track...

2 role modifiers is something I never heard of in a game.

Also it makes no sense to restrict someone from claiming an ability man...

 

[Reborn]

2 role modifiers is something I never heard of in a game.

Also it makes no sense to restrict someone from claiming an ability man...

Again...if it doesn't make sense then take the matter to host not to me....


Stop being blinded by your assumptions and focus on reads and evidences because you are literally affecting townie Chance of catching scum

 

[AL sama]

There is a hint about something

I see interesting

I know who is mafia now, it’s Bogard. And I have to tell you guys that there is an indie here too. I just woke up, I’ll explain the rest in a bit but for now, everyone unvote Finalbeta. He isn’t scum

And you ask me who I am? Fufufufu

Waka-sama is here

doffy

 

[Finalbeta]

I know who is mafia now, it’s Bogard. And I have to tell you guys that there is an indie here too. I just woke up, I’ll explain the rest in a bit but for now, everyone unvote Finalbeta. He isn’t scum

And you ask me who I am? Fufufufu

Waka-sama is here

This would imply the Executive has got 6 members and so that the Originals also have 6 and there are only 3 mafia and 1 indie.

Something is fishy.

 

[Finalbeta]

Wait a second why is @Kiwipom coming up with this just now???

She was completely different at the beginning of the phase.

 

[Bogard]

I know who is mafia now, it’s Bogard. And I have to tell you guys that there is an indie here too. I just woke up, I’ll explain the rest in a bit but for now, everyone unvote Finalbeta. He isn’t scum

And you ask me who I am? Fufufufu

Waka-sama is here

How do you know there is an indie for sure? That would only be possible if you had another tracking role, which is far-fetched if Final/Reborn's claim were correct

Finalbeta 1.0 was a tracker
- Finalbeta 2.0 seems to be a watcher
- Playa was an investigator(if innocent or guilty)
- All_Red could also investigate about a player's alignment
- Reborn claims to have a powerful tracking role with total restrictions

So it would mean there are 6tracking/watcher/investigation roles in a game of 16players, not really believable

Furthermore you said "now" when talking about me which suggest you didn't know it before and thus based things on assumptions

Other alternative however could be that the indie you're talking about is you

 

[Reborn]

I see interesting

doffy

If you understood that hint then I have something to say..

I like your reasoning that how rej despite being a scum made such bold claim of trebol unless he knew it already that there is no trebol anymore......

So if @Flower is trebol then that leave us with four confirmed originals, two confirmed executive - red and flower and I think kiwi and nw and your claim sounds legit so three more executives taking Total to 9( 4 orignals and 5 executive)

Then we have sen as original, final and bogard as executives...

Jew is townie or indie but not mafia....

You catching my drift here???

 

[Finalbeta]

How do you know there is an indie for sure? That would only be possible if you had another tracking role, which is far-fetched if Final/Reborn's claim were correct

Finalbeta 1.0 was a tracker
- Finalbeta 2.0 seems to be a watcher
- Playa was an investigator(if innocent or guilty)
- All_Red could also investigate about a player's alignment
- Reborn claims to have a powerful tracking role with total restrictions

So it would mean there are 6tracking/watcher/investigation roles in a game of 16players, not really believable

Furthermore you said "now" when talking about me which suggest you didn't know it before and thus based things on assumptions

Other alternative however could be that the indie you're talking about is you

There's also a problem with her claim.

Numerically it doesn't hold.

6 Executive likely means 6 Originals which leaves to 3 mafia and ONLY ONE indie.

 

[Reborn]

Too many executives......

 

[Reborn]

There's also a problem with her claim.

Numerically it doesn't hold.

6 Executive likely means 6 Originals which leaves to 3 mafia and ONLY ONE indie.

Can you stop using your logic for a second ???
There could be 5 originals and 6 executive and not necessarily 6 executive and 6 orignals...

there are 5 originals....

Problem is with executives....

As of now - if flower is trebol then number of executives are - red, Al, kiwi, Jew, NW ,Bogard, You and flower taking Total to 8.....

8 executives and 5 orignals doesn't add up...

@AL sama see this is....

 

[AL sama]

If you understood that hint then I have something to say..

I like your reasoning that how rej despite being a scum made such bold claim of trebol unless he knew it already that there is no trebol anymore......

So if @Flower is trebol then that leave us with four confirmed originals, two confirmed executive - red and flower and I think kiwi and nw and your claim sounds legit so three more executives taking Total to 9( 4 orignals and 5 executive)

Then we have sen as original, final and bogard as executives...

Jew is townie or indie but not mafia....

You catching my drift here???

yup some are fakes

 

[Finalbeta]

The claims that have been less thorough are way easier to fake. Expecially if don't reconstruct the game properly.

 

[AL sama]

Can you stop using your logic for a second ???
There could be 5 originals and 6 executive and not necessarily 6 executive and 6 orignals...

there are 5 originals....

Problem is with executives....

As of now - if flower is trebol then number of executives are - red, Al, kiwi, Jew, NW ,Bogard, You and flower taking Total to 8.....

8 executives and 5 orignals doesn't add up...

@AL sama see this is....

my top suspect is bogard for now

 

[AL sama]

even if flower wasn't trebol there's still too many of them

 

[AL sama]

unvote

now that we know this beta is looking even more bad

 

[Finalbeta]

unvote

now that we know this beta is looking even more bad

AL you also claimed Executive am I right?

You are part of the sus as well, don't act as you are distanciated now.

My claim has been more legit than yours thus far.

Also you mentioned TAC confused town but he isn't as experienced as you are. Maybe it was you to command him.

Just a wild guess for the moment.