Powers & Abilities Which one is more impressive, breaking bones or leaving a scar

Which one is more painful

  • Broken bones

    Votes: 115 61.8%
  • A scar

    Votes: 71 38.2%

  • Total voters
    186
It's funny some are still trying to argue that Big Mom more durable than Kaido. Let look at the facts to see who is more durable.

Kaido jumped off skypiea and received zero damage.

Big Mom scrapped he knee when she tripped and fell.

If you can see who's more durable you are reading Two Piece.

Kaido is more durable and always has been. If Big Mom was more durable Oda would have showed it by have Big Mom takes hits from powerful Ryu and internal destruction haki attacks so we could make a direct comparison. But he didn't, they weren't allowed to attack Big Mom with those powers.

Kaido has better passive recovery and healing powers than Big Mom. That has to be factored in.

Scarring Kaido, a feat only been achieved by one of person. One of the few people Kaido calls a strong pirate is more impressive than breaking Big Mom's bones.
 
I dont understand why anything relates to zoro must be stronger than others
King has to stronger than marco,
katakuri
Now people make kaido must be stronger than bigmom so that zoro must be stronger than law and kid, what zoro did had to be more impressive than them
Its ridiculus, just because of zoro people have to downplay any other charaters
I dont hate zoro even like him, but the way people act let me should hate zoro fan, and somehow i start lose my interest in zoro
 
Used it to show how durability should be measured. Which is why using an Endurance feat is baseless.
Which u seemly still dnt understand...
The incision through KROOM is harmless and bypasses durability - this has been reiterated multiple times. The attack causes damage/DC through the shockwave the sword emits. Has nothing to do with external durability whatsoever.
True, which is completely independent of the force(shockwave) released.

Which again already canonical doesn’t bypass durability. We literally see as much when Law uses the same shockwave to punch thro doffy stomach.
Now explain why a shockwave that passes thro shit, would be cause external damage?? Now that’s out the way, why it’s not happening to meme.

The destruction that Puncture Wille caused was due to the shockwaves obliterating the rocks below, that was what Meme's internals must've felt and hence it's an endurance feat.
Wait? Huh why’s the shockwave blowing a hole through 100s of miles, instead of bypassing it until hitting the ground??

Obviously because the “force(shockwave)” itself powerful enough to blow it all away. It does not blow the backside of meme body. Why??
Apples and Oranges comparision - Zoro's attacks surpass durability and cut externally. Law's awakening attacks have been repeatedly stated to bypass durability factor altogether
Wrong injection shots literally never been portrayed as an internal attack, and neither has the shockwave. it’s made up cope by Ztards... Unless u can prove this is a random difference shockwave.

Law new attack uses the same shockwaves. Only thanks to Kroom he can cause damage, internally/ an externally. Directly solving the problem he had against Kaido.
If the Attack already bypass durability, what even the point putting the sword in someone with Kroom??? itd be the same shit
and that the incision is painless. The shockwave is what causes the damage and that's where your internals get fried.
Shockwave not painless, it’s a physical force being set off internally to increase damage output. The internally aspect Kroom, shockwave completely different. If Law uses this attack not in meme body, it’s not bypassing her durability.
Why? No it doesn't. As explained above, the attack's shockwaves caused that DC - those shockwaves are emitted all throughout the sword as shown in the chapter. It obviously destroyed the bed rock.
Yea it literally does, as the Doffy panel clearly shows. Ur confusing it adding kroom effects, which is separate case.
The comparision still doesn't make sense. Her externally durability is far below Kaidou's own based on the Kong Organ and Kong Gun interactions.
Base on a scene of her laughing blocking attacks? Yea no, tanking a top tier puncture feat significantly better then tanking Kong organ. It’s not comparable at all in AP.

@Bolded/underlined: That isn't how feat analysis work bro. You don't give a superior character's feats to inferior characters because you feel like it.
Only meme the one with better internally tanking feats lol. Ur relying on a vague scene, that doesn’t even make it clear. if a Kong organ can hurt her, as proof of something.

Yet actually tanking much superior internal attack damage. Not enough to give Meme an edge? Mind explaining how GK/An piss weak ACoA luffy attacks remotely compare to enduring Puncture shockwave.
 
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ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
True, which is completely independent of the force(shockwave) released.

Which again already canonical doesn’t bypass durability. We literally see as much when Law uses the same shockwave to punch thro doffy stomach.
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Injection Shot is a normal attack while KROOM is the ability which allows Law to bypass durability. We're talking about Puncture Wille here, not Injection Shot.

Now explain why a shockwave that passes thro shit, would be cause external damage?? Now that’s out the way, why it’s not happening to meme.
Where did the Shockwave even cause External Damage? The rocks got completely obliterated like Meme's insides.

Wait? Huh why’s the shockwave blowing a hole through 100s of miles, instead of bypassing it until hitting the ground??

Obviously because the “force(shockwave)” itself powerful enough to blow it all away. It does not blow the backside of meme body. Why??
Because Meme's insides are much more durable than a bunch of Rocks? Why do I have to explain this lol?
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Wrong injection shots literally never been portrayed as an internal attack, and neither has a shockwave. it’s made up cope by Ztards... Unless u can prove this is a random difference shockwave.

Law new attack uses the same shockwaves. Only thanks to Kroom he can cause damage, internally/ an externally. Directly solving the problem he had against Kaido.
If the Attack already bypass durability, what even the point putting the sword in someone with Kroom??? itd be the same shit
I was talking about Puncture Wille, not Injection Shot. Literally don't understand what's the logic in proving that Injection Shot never bypasses durability when I never claimed that in the first place.

Why do Law's new attack use the same shockwaves? It's more similar to Shock Wille than to Puncture Wille - both cause damage internally by bypassing durability itself. Which is my whole point.

Shockwave not painless, it’s a physical force being set off internally to increase damage output. The internally aspect Kroom, shockwave completely different. If Law uses this attack not in meme body, it’s not bypassing her durability.
Agreed but when I started that paragraph, I was writing under the assumption that Law has made the incision already.

Yea it literally does, as the Doffy panel clearly shows. Ur confusing it adding kroom effects, which is separate case.
What?

What connection is there between Injection Shot and Puncture Wille? Am I missing out on something? Your argument makes zero sense whatsoever.

Ur relying on a vague scene, that doesn’t even make it clear
Made it very clear in fact. Meme needed COA to block a Kong Gun and didn't no sell the punch like Kaidou did, only 30x more punches.

Yet actually tanking much superior internal attack damage. Not enough to give Meme an edge? Mind explaining how GK/An piss weak ACoA luffy attacks remotely compare to enduring Puncture shockwave.
Endurance feat, not a tanking feat. And you know Kaidou's gonna endure ACOC G4 and then some lol.
 
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Dragomir

In our world, broken bones are much worse than a scar. As @Rosella.Fiamingo said, a scar forms when the dermis layer of the skin is damaged, while to break a bone, you have to go deeper than that, past muscle tissue. But, in One Piece, scars are given a lot of emphasis. Oda clearly values the importance of a scar at least narratively. This is not to say that just scarring a character >> breaking another character's bones. You have to look at the context. Kaido's durability is greater than Big Mom's. His durability is the most hyped in the series and outside of King's fire mode, it has been consistently portrayed to be the best. Damaging his dermis layer is obviously no small feat. For example, Blackbeard scarring Shanks I do not consider to be a greater feat than Law breaking Big Mom's bones as Shanks has normal human durability while Big Mom is a freak of nature.

To answer the poll question, breaking bones is more painful. However, leaving a scar on Kaido is more impressive than breaking Big Mom's bones because of how much importance Oda gives to scars and the fact that Kaido's durability is better than Linlin's. Both are great feats no matter how you look at them. To downplay either by saying "Big Mom laughed it off and healed immediately" or "the scar is barely visible and not talked about" is silly and stupid.
 
What?? Are y’all even looking at the pics?? The attack destroyed 100s of Kms of Rock.... An created an explosion, 1000s of times bigger then Kaido fall from sky island. The attacks both exterior/internal. An we dnt know if it’s his durability that kept him safe. That could’ve just been endurance/recovery at work.
What are you talking about here? Midd's assign attack?
 
Breaking bones to the point of them hanging flaccidly actually nerfs you in the fight legitimately if you don't have some hax instant bone recovery power.
Even Oden's giant scar didn't stop Kaido from one shotting him with his next attack, let alone Zoro's tiny thin scar.
 

Finalbeta

Ging Freecss stan
Remember that going deeper is not all, the aftermath must be factored.

For instance sometimes breaking a finger is not as bad as a scar, or even breaking another bone, it depends on case by case scenario and how much of an impedement that proves for the specific character.
 
i will take a scar over broken ribs any day
but scars in onepiece significantly have more meaning towards it and many people in this thread have alrdy explained that how .
 

Finalbeta

Ging Freecss stan
It depends on how much the damage output is worthy one case or the other but Zoro seemingly managed more than Luffy could during round 1 in that fragment :cheers:
 
alrdy shown in the early series



Breaking ribs is not the same as breaking a limb to the point of it flacidly hanging uselessly.

The scar that went deep enough and nerfed Zoro for an arc after he got it is not the same as a scar that didn't even knock Kaido down and instantly recovered with no impact on his combat ability.
 
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