General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet
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No it wasn’t. The hug was jinbe arriving and they welcoming him. Then Luffy says let’s have a toast. They say they don’t have sake. Zorro(the Sakehound, get it like bloodhound) smells some. They get it and start drinking. Luffy says let’s celebrate properly after we win. The panel you say, while important is not a celebration, it’s a welcoming.
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That's called a celebration.
And they didn't
Precisely, no celebration here
It is tho. Call it whatever you want.. that moment is until further celebration, the most important one.
The reason for this debate is meaningless. Carrot was no present is the setup of the toast for obvious reason. But she was in the first celebration moment for less obvious reason. Making this moment - for Carrot - very important in term of storytelling.
Putting Carrot is center of one of the most important panel in One Piece in a long time is VERY notable. Nothing you will say will counter that. Just accept that hint as it is and stop delaying the inevitable.
And they didn't
Precisely, no celebration here
It is tho. Call it whatever you want.. that moment is until further celebration, the most important one.
The reason for this debate is meaningless. Carrot was no present is the setup of the toast for obvious reason. But she was in the first celebration moment for less obvious reason. Making this moment - for Carrot - very important in term of storytelling.
Putting Carrot is center of one of the most important panel in One Piece in a long time is VERY notable. Nothing you will say will counter that. Just accept that hint as it is and stop delaying the inevitable.
Carrot isn't closer to joining the crew than Yamato all you have to say is that Yamato hasn't interacted with the crew when that is one of the easiest something Oda could do 😭, like I said before carrot isn't shown to be the next SHs only Yamato is shown wanted to leave with puffy u guys use that carrot is friend with them as meaning to join
You can not say "call it whatever you want“. Different words exist for a reason and have different meanings. Celebrating and welcoming are definitely the same. And yes they did have one drink.
As for Carrot being in the panel. I do not put much importance to it. My hole focus was on Jinbe. I honestly didn’t even notice her until you mentioned her in this thread. And that applies for 80% of the one piece fan base.
As for Carrot being in the panel. I do not put much importance to it. My hole focus was on Jinbe. I honestly didn’t even notice her until you mentioned her in this thread. And that applies for 80% of the one piece fan base.
Luffy postponed the official celebration, so the only worthy celebration, right now, is the strawhats hugging Jimbe. You will have to wait until the banquet to have the real official celebration.
Since the last time they saw him he was is a situation where he could've died
They were having a proper celebration and it was postponed until after Wano is saved, so they can celebrate Wano's liberation and Jinbei's welcome all at once
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"That was just hugging Jinbe"
The question is not "Is Carrot there in the postponed celebration ?" the question is "why there were no new strawhat in it?"
The reason is simple: it was not a celebration. Just a setup.
THe real celebration is this panel:
The first panel with ALL the strawhats together in YEARS.
The question is not "Is Carrot there in the postponed celebration ?" the question is "why there were no new strawhat in it?"
The reason is simple: it was not a celebration. Just a setup.
THe real celebration is this panel:
The first panel with ALL the strawhats together in YEARS.
"That was just hugging Jinbe"
The question is not "Is Carrot there in the postponed celebration ?" the question is "why there were no new strawhat in it?"
The reason is simple: it was not a celebration. Just a setup.
THe real celebration is this panel:
The first panel with ALL the strawhats together in YEARS.
The question is not "Is Carrot there in the postponed celebration ?" the question is "why there were no new strawhat in it?"
The reason is simple: it was not a celebration. Just a setup.
THe real celebration is this panel:
The first panel with ALL the strawhats together in YEARS.
Jinbe will be welcomed in when Wano is freed
And how are you going to say the hugging was the "official celebration" and the postponed one was a setup for the official, as a writer I thought you'd know that a setup comes before the payoff
But yeah only the straw hats were there to welcome Jinbe back
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This isn't enough Sub-Text for him
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It's not...
Oh I say a lot more about Yamato than that and you know it so it's no use to try to fallaciousely reduce my argumentation.
And yes, Carot is closer. But for you to see that .. it will take a huge shock. You need to get rid of your bias toward Yamato.
In that case it was. It's was welcoming hug, but a celebration in the storytelling because of the fact that this is the first panel of all the strawhats together in years. There is nothing more obvious than that.
I Know.. and it's kinda showing how much you don't care about storytelling. Because the present of Carrot in such an important panel should be a red flag for everyone who cares about the strawhats story.
Learn to read
It's a setup for the celebration in the banquet. If you had read correctly, you'd know I said that already.
Indeed, there was Wanda in the raws on the far right side, just where Carrot should be. The problem here is that you think that the presence of Wanda in the panel is dimishing Carrot. Well.. you can't be more wrong.
First the position of Carrot and Wanda are completely different, Wanda is on the far side, sometimes cut (in the book version it is) so they are incomparable here and Carrot's presence is still a anoamy.
Second, Wanda being here acts as a relative legitimizer for Carrot. In fact, her very presence here is maybe what will setup in the future a discussion between Carrot and Wanda about Carrot's future in the strawhat crew.
So yeah.. not a bad thing.. actually the opposite.
So saying "but you only take the cut version" is just but a bad argument.
Actually there is subtext here. But not the one written on the bubble ;)
Ignored, here's why
That's just your agenda, I'm not ignoring anything. This is indeed a good setup scene.
And yes, Carot is closer. But for you to see that .. it will take a huge shock. You need to get rid of your bias toward Yamato.
In that case it was. It's was welcoming hug, but a celebration in the storytelling because of the fact that this is the first panel of all the strawhats together in years. There is nothing more obvious than that.
I Know.. and it's kinda showing how much you don't care about storytelling. Because the present of Carrot in such an important panel should be a red flag for everyone who cares about the strawhats story.
Learn to read
It's a setup for the celebration in the banquet. If you had read correctly, you'd know I said that already.
Indeed, there was Wanda in the raws on the far right side, just where Carrot should be. The problem here is that you think that the presence of Wanda in the panel is dimishing Carrot. Well.. you can't be more wrong.
First the position of Carrot and Wanda are completely different, Wanda is on the far side, sometimes cut (in the book version it is) so they are incomparable here and Carrot's presence is still a anoamy.
Second, Wanda being here acts as a relative legitimizer for Carrot. In fact, her very presence here is maybe what will setup in the future a discussion between Carrot and Wanda about Carrot's future in the strawhat crew.
So yeah.. not a bad thing.. actually the opposite.
So saying "but you only take the cut version" is just but a bad argument.
Actually there is subtext here. But not the one written on the bubble ;)
Ignored, here's why
And even if they want to use anime, they’re intentionally ignoring this scene:
Who are the ignorant ones now huh?
Who are the ignorant ones now huh?
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