Roe vs Wade Overturned?

[Natalija]

i do know that men are not getting ''menstrual leaves'' that's for sure.
So you can't blame a boss whether male of female for only hiring men at this point since they'll be working more, it's very simple logic here.

I mean I see guys take leaves over a cold, I'm pretty confident they'd be in a hospital for a week if they actually had a period

That's not true really, who's working more or less is entirely down to the personality of the person, not the physical time spent at work.

I see a lot of guys sitting idly and not doing their job very well, and I see some women be insanely effective at their jobs and better than the men. There's of course opposite examples too, but being at work more doesn't equal more work done by any means.

 

[Peroroncino]

I’m just saying I don’t think any leftist or pro worker advocate wants women to have preferential working rights. If women get benefits it’s likely that they’re advocating for men having more time off too

that's not the case here, women are getting 5 days off EVERY MONTH and it's paid, men as always are getting nothing.
So give me one reason as to why anyone would hire women over men at this point?

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I'd say rather than expelling women from working just because they can't work as many days as men. We should do something for men to compensate for working more days. Both sides would be happy that way. There are women who are really talented and competent. You don't really wanna lose them.

i agree with that but if you pay men more for example, the women will cry sexism and muh soggy knees immediately.

 

[Natalija]

i agree with that but if you pay men more for example, the women will cry sexism and muh soggy knees immediately.

Again... Men are paid more and you are living under a rock

 

[Peroroncino]

I mean I see guys take leaves over a cold, I'm pretty confident they'd be in a hospital for a week if they actually had a period

That's not true really, who's working more or less is entirely down to the personality of the person, not the physical time spent at work.

I see a lot of guys sitting idly and not doing their job very well, and I see some women be insanely effective at their jobs and better than the men. There's of course opposite examples too, but being at work more doesn't equal more work done by any means.

arguing from what we have seen is meaningless since we can all say whatever we want.
men don't get cold leaves every month like women are getting 5 days off every month.
Even if a guy gets several cold leaves in a row he's still working more than women overall.

 

[Natalija]

arguing from what we have seen is meaningless since we can all say whatever we want.
men don't get cold leaves every month like women are getting 5 days off every month.
Even if a guy gets several cold leaves in a row he's still working more than women overall.

Incorrect, but ya we won't agree

 

[Roo]

that's not the case here, women are getting 5 days off EVERY MONTH and it's paid, men as always are getting nothing.
So give me one reason as to why anyone would hire women over men at this point?

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i agree with that but if you pay men more for example, the women will cry sexism and muh soggy knees immediately.

im just saying the people who advocated for this likely also want men to have more rights. Government screws things up like always

 

[Peroroncino]

Incorrect, but ya we won't agree

not at all it's correct as it gets anyone can see that, i dont even know how you can deny it at this point.
Guy works full month with some sick leaves here and there woman gets 5 days off every month plus sick leaves here and there plus pregnancy leaves.
Men are the best option as workers.

 

[Indigo]

They just want more wage slaves in poverty

 

[Peroroncino]

im just saying the people who advocated for this likely also want men to have more rights. Government screws things up like always

i doubt it ,this sounds like it was made by some feminists.

 

[Natalija]

not at all it's correct as it gets anyone can see that, i dont even know how you can deny it at this point.
Guy works full month with some sick leaves here and there woman gets 5 days off every month plus sick leaves here and there plus pregnancy leaves.
Men are the best option as workers.

Lol the Spain thing is new, you realise women don't have 5 days off anywhere, right?

Being absent for a few times in your life for giving birth literally changes nothing, and women work the same otherwise despite being paid less.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

There is more to the gender pay gap than just "men are paid more than women". Generally speaking, these statistics are just overall averages that do not take things like differences in roles, jobs, the amount of time spent working, experience, etc into consideration. You get cases like these when you dig deep into what's actually going on:

https://www.latimes.com/sports/soccer/story/2019-07-30/us-soccer-women-paid-more-than-men

i agree with that but if you pay men more for example, the women will cry sexism and muh soggy knees immediately.

Not all women I'd say. Most women are rather fair towards men and appreciate us for what men do for the world.

 

[Peroroncino]

Lol the Spain thing is new, you realise women don't have 5 days off anywhere, right?

Being absent for a few times in your life for giving birth literally changes nothing, and women work the same otherwise despite being paid less.

we are discussing spain here though where women get a good slice of every month off now,something men dont get but you still expect us to believe they work the same ammount somehow

 

[Natalija]

we are discussing spain here though where women get a good slice of every month off now something men dont get but you still expect us to believe they work the same ammount somehow

I mean I take a day off every month, and I work more than my coworkers so

 

[Peroroncino]

I mean I take a day off every month, and I work more than my coworkers so

i can't say if you dont or not since i can't hear your coworkers side of the story, only yours.
Still 1 day is not 5, a 5 day leave is 16% of every month of women not doing anything useful for the boss while the men are.

 

[Indigo]

The way "pro-lifers" talk about women shows how much they care about "life"

 

[Gol D. Roger]

The way "pro-lifers" talk about women shows how much they care about "life"

If this is about the recent argument we're having. It really doesn't matter if you're a woman or men; if you're working fewer days, then you're automatically working less than your co-workers generally speaking. You don't have to be a women hater or someone who doesn't care about women's rights to understand that.

 

[Natalija]

i can't say if you dont or not since i can't hear your coworkers side of the story, only yours.
Still 1 day is not 5, a 5 day leave is 16% of every month of women not doing anything useful for the boss while the men are.

LOL it obviously wasn't passed yet so we don't know the details, and it says up to 5 days for severe cases.

Not all women will be off work for a week, you genius

 

[Peroroncino]

LOL it obviously wasn't passed yet so we don't know the details, and it says up to 5 days for severe cases.

Not all women will be off work for a week, you genius

and who has the power of choosing how many days?
Either way women are still working less since men dont have this same privilege

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

IDK what the issue is. If guys want extra vacation days to be compensated, it's up to all of'em in Spain to push for it like I'm sure women were pushing for Mensuration Leave.

 

[Peroroncino]

IDK what the issue is. If guys want extra vacation days to be compensated, it's up to all of'em in Spain to push for it like I'm sure women were pushing for Mensuration Leave.

the problem isn't more compensated days for men, the problem is bosses having a reason to hire women with this day many paid days off.