General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet
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Wow, too many things to read since i'm gone. (no thanks to those who tried to spoil me)
Yeah.. I won't read that..
Let's just say this:
Carrot did not react. It's okay tho, this was but an hypothesis. Her chance are dropping a litlle but they are still above Yamato so I don't worry on that front.
Now, what I look for is the second part of the hypothesis: the introspection of Carrot between now and the end of the arc.
If that does not happen, we will just have to wait the very end of the arc to see if Carrot's sneak on the Sunny or not.
Should be a few interesting weeks :cheers:
Yeah.. I won't read that..
Let's just say this:
Carrot did not react. It's okay tho, this was but an hypothesis. Her chance are dropping a litlle but they are still above Yamato so I don't worry on that front.
Now, what I look for is the second part of the hypothesis: the introspection of Carrot between now and the end of the arc.
If that does not happen, we will just have to wait the very end of the arc to see if Carrot's sneak on the Sunny or not.
Should be a few interesting weeks :cheers:
Like I said earlier, no one is moving the goal post here. The goal post has ALWAYS been HERE
What I'm looking for, are EARLY CONFIRMATIONS. There is a difference between that and the end of the theory as we know it.
Indeed, like many others, it's okay, that was just an hypothesis. The chances of Carrot dopped a little but she is still above Yamato in term of probabilities ;)
Nah, more like 40%. Carrot here again is treated like a character arc. In fact you can compare Yamato's treatment here with the one of Rebecca in Dressrosa. Compare them, you will see ;)
Nah, more like 30%
What I'm looking for, are EARLY CONFIRMATIONS. There is a difference between that and the end of the theory as we know it.
Indeed, like many others, it's okay, that was just an hypothesis. The chances of Carrot dopped a little but she is still above Yamato in term of probabilities ;)
Nah, more like 40%. Carrot here again is treated like a character arc. In fact you can compare Yamato's treatment here with the one of Rebecca in Dressrosa. Compare them, you will see ;)
Nah, more like 30%
Yup
There is NO good reason for Carrot to go back to Zou after what she experienced. It's pure development inertia.
For Carrot to go back to Zou, something must push her back. Just "coming back" when she actively stowaway and experienced wonders and adventure wouldn't make much sence narratively.
There is NO good reason for Carrot to go back to Zou after what she experienced. It's pure development inertia.
For Carrot to go back to Zou, something must push her back. Just "coming back" when she actively stowaway and experienced wonders and adventure wouldn't make much sence narratively.
Carrot4nakama you are such a delusional fanboy your character does not have anything that makes her remotely like the strawhats at all.
1. Carrot does not have a story centric arc that center around her as a character like earlier strawhats.
I am just going to say it. Whole cake island itself was not center around Carrot as a character. She only displays what the minks were capable of. We never got in depth characterization moment like other strawhats before her. She was just a support character going along for the ride helping strawhats in aiding them in a certain task and aiding Chopper in a fight.
There is no mystery that surrounded her character in that arc. The only thing she display was her characteristic and what the minks can do. She had a wonderful life that she could have left zou any time. But obviously, she was to young and inexperienced of knowing the new world oceans so she could not leave on her own. She did, however, have two events that was unprecedented that would change her life forever. That would be jack attacking her homeland and Pedro’s sacrifice. The strawhats were able to do the bare minimum in helping/saving her people and helping her cope after Pedro’s sacrifice. They did not however take down enemies that personally had effect on her.
Characters such as, Franky, Brook, and Jimbei would have an arc that would center around them as characters Franky would have water seven and enies lobby alongside with Robin, Brook had thriller bark and Jimbei had fishman island. Whole cake island was focused on sanji, Jimbei, Pudding and Pedro. Sanji had his former family involved in the arc. You got to know more about his family relationship and his backstory before he met zeff. Pedro, you got to know his earlier experience in whole cake island. Jimbei cutting ties to big mom organization for him to join the strawhats. Finally, Pudding you got to know her relationship with big mom, her relationship with her siblings and learning that her third eye ability. That third eye ability If awaken can read the poneglyphs
2 She does not have a past that is worth mentioning, talking about, or exploring.
If we look at the two of her flashbacks, that we have gotten from Carrot as a character there is not many depths to them from her perspective. In other words, we have not seen her past life with certain characters from her point of view. For example, we do not know her history with Pedro, her relationship with dogstorm, cat viper, Wanda, or her reason behind her set goal. Instead, we get the bare Minimum in terms of what she was not good at. Which does show us she is not good at swordsmanship. She does, however, gain a new weapon which ends up being her gauntlets.
For example, from the zou flashback from what we have seen she was a background character and in the whole cake island arc she had one panel that we have seen from countless supports characters like chew chew, Paulie, Bartolomeo, Pudding, and otama. Carrot had one backstory ends up being the remarkable like a background character and side character. Saying that “carrot backstory is the present” is not a good excuse because her character is not the focus of the story right now and We have not seen her throughout the wano arc as of now.
The difference between Nami and Robin situation they were at least the main characters and official members of the crew. During adventure alongside with Luffy and rest of strawhats they were surprised how Luffy, and the rest of the characters interact and treated each other. In comparison to the different crews, they use work with. Not only that they were active throughout their adventures alongside with them they did not follow into the background
To continue Nami and Robin before they join and after they join, they gave certain dialogue that could lead to potential backstory and arc that would center around them as characters. While carrot on other hand did not add any new revelation coming from her. Nami and robin they did have a personal enemy that would not be relevant until later in the story. For example, Nami dislike pirates with a passion because of Arlong and Robin there were to many enemies within her dream which is the world government and its darkness. Arlong park would explain everything that was going with Nami and Water 7 and enies lobby would explain everything that was going on with Robin. Carrot by comparison does not future enemy that strawhats need to resolve for her to become one of them.
Zou flashback part 1 - Imgur
Zou flashback final - Imgur
Whole cake island flashback comparison
3. Carrot’s personal enemies have already been resolved by non strawhats
When a strawhats before or after they join Luffy's crew. It is Luffy who resolve their problem. In carrot situation Luffy never came to her defense against her personal main enemies that had affect her life on a personal level. You could say katakuri is good example of this circumstance. However, throughout the fight Luffy was not really fighting for carrot own behalf. He was fighting to protect the lives of his crew, his allies and improve himself.
Yes, you could say carrot follows the category of an ally. However, Katakuri was not an enemy that betrayed her ideals, hinder her progress in life or had affect her life on personal level. Yes, Katakuri is enemy that pin her down when she tried to attack him and mock her for crying after Pedro’s sacrifice. However, he is not an enemy that carrot reflects on to have a personal grudge against. They are three personal enemies that did effect on the young bunny girl life. That was kanjuro, jack, and Perospero All three ended up facing defeat by Kinemon, dog storm and cat viper. By that logic there is no incentive for her to continue her journey with the strawhats further beyond.
Time to Face it. Carrot she has no future antagonist that has hinder progress in life, betray her ideals, and does not have an enemy that personally affect her life. The reason is they have all been dealt with by non strawhat characters. What about the giants she was interested in? When she was bathing alongside with Nami"? "She was being very curious if they were real or not"? The thing about that is. She does not have a “Personal grudge” against the giants because she has never seen them before. Plus, according to dog storm Zou had been at peace for thousand years until jack had arrive.
4. Luffy is not even fixated on wanting her to be member of his team.
The fact is this when Jimbei return the story the strawhats were celebrating his arrival not carrot. During the recruitment ceremony they were about celebrate Jimbei as newest member of the crew. But Luffy than decide to let us hold celebration for now Until Kaido and Big mom are defeat. After their defeat let us have big party. Carrot is hardly even mentioned by Luffy as added member to the team. As matter fact she was not even taking part against Kaido forces in the tori gates or with the cheerleader squad.
The thing about Carrot is she has never faced any form of discrimination or being labeled as an outcast. The minks are discriminate against I will not deny that. But Carrot specifically, however, has never face any form of that. When she was with them in whole cake island, she was in a land of paradise and equality with a price. That price ends up being years of your life or one your body part being cut. The only people who did face any form of discrimination was Sanji for being a normal human being with human emotions. As well Pudding for having three eyes. The only person who did paid the price in whole cake island that we know of was pedro.
When Luffy usually picks out his crew they are usually considered to be outcast, discriminate against, and fear by from those around them. He, however, sees decent quality in their actions showing they are a good person at heart. Going out of his way to defend them and wanting them to be member of his team. Robin and Franky are the only characters who used to be antagonist before joining. Luffy let Robin join the crew based on the fact she was a good person at heart. Throughout alabasta arc she did save luffy not once but twice. Robin explains herself as to why she wanted to join because Luffy save her life when she originally wanted to die, she had also told them that she has no place to go or no place to return to, so she decides to join Luffy. After the foxy arc heading to water seven and enies lobby Robin tried to sacrifice her life in order protect the friends she made. Luffy and the rest of the strawhats went out of their way to rescue her because they do consider her as their friend because she had travel alongside with them in the past and she was member of their crew.
Franky was antagonist towards the strawhats. However, Throughout the arc water seven and enies Lobby there much more to his character that oda would explore. For example, he did care about the family that he had created. He had a full backstory that oda would explore, he had personal common enemy that strawhats were currently facing at the time, he fought alongside with the strawhats throughout water seven and enies lobby. His fight was not even skip over in comparison carrot wano. He was tremendous help to the strawhats in rescuing and protecting robin he had also built ship for them, and he had wanted poster alongside with them. But it was the Franky family and iceberg who went out there way to push Franky to go on journey alongside with strawhats to live out his dream.
The question ends up being is this. After the wano arc is over will Luffy chase around Carrot wanting her to be member of his team or would he want to be grateful towards Yamato in terms of what she had conducted throughout this raid? So, sneaking aboard the thousand sunny it is stupid idea, and it is just you day dreaming. The fact is Carrot already is friends with half of the strawhats she asks after the end the raid or at the party. The only reason you are making this excuse about “sneaking aboard” because your character has not done anything important or has no new revelation throughout wano arc that makes her stand out character. In addition, she has no future enemy that the strawhats need to resolve for her as a character. Nami and Robin would have a future enemy that would be relevant later in story which Luffy ends up resolving. Unlike Robin Carrot has a home in which she can return to. Yamato by comparison is the daughter of the former emperor of the sea who had ruined wano in the first place. Knowing how the one piece world does tend to discriminate against people base on their bloodlines against their former enemy that had ruin their lives in the first place there is no doubt she will not be accepted into wano. Despite her being friend’s momo and shinbou. Yamato will get a bounty since she is daughter/son of Kaido. People will only see her as Kaido’s descendant not her own person.
Just like They see
Luffy-The Grandson Garp the hero and son of the most wanted man in the world Dragon.
Zoro-as pirate hunter soon later may or not related shimotsuki ushimaru
Nami-cat burglar and former member of arlong pirates
Ussop-the village liar and son of yassop
Sanji-part germa and part the vinesmoke family.
Chopper-Monster
Robin- the last survivor ohara and one of the people who could read the poneglaphs
Franky-Cyborg, Pacifsta, and has one vegapunk laser in his body
Brook-Former member of the rumble pirates
JImbei-fishman, former warlord of the sea and former vice captain of sun pirates
1. Carrot does not have a story centric arc that center around her as a character like earlier strawhats.
I am just going to say it. Whole cake island itself was not center around Carrot as a character. She only displays what the minks were capable of. We never got in depth characterization moment like other strawhats before her. She was just a support character going along for the ride helping strawhats in aiding them in a certain task and aiding Chopper in a fight.
There is no mystery that surrounded her character in that arc. The only thing she display was her characteristic and what the minks can do. She had a wonderful life that she could have left zou any time. But obviously, she was to young and inexperienced of knowing the new world oceans so she could not leave on her own. She did, however, have two events that was unprecedented that would change her life forever. That would be jack attacking her homeland and Pedro’s sacrifice. The strawhats were able to do the bare minimum in helping/saving her people and helping her cope after Pedro’s sacrifice. They did not however take down enemies that personally had effect on her.
Characters such as, Franky, Brook, and Jimbei would have an arc that would center around them as characters Franky would have water seven and enies lobby alongside with Robin, Brook had thriller bark and Jimbei had fishman island. Whole cake island was focused on sanji, Jimbei, Pudding and Pedro. Sanji had his former family involved in the arc. You got to know more about his family relationship and his backstory before he met zeff. Pedro, you got to know his earlier experience in whole cake island. Jimbei cutting ties to big mom organization for him to join the strawhats. Finally, Pudding you got to know her relationship with big mom, her relationship with her siblings and learning that her third eye ability. That third eye ability If awaken can read the poneglyphs
2 She does not have a past that is worth mentioning, talking about, or exploring.
If we look at the two of her flashbacks, that we have gotten from Carrot as a character there is not many depths to them from her perspective. In other words, we have not seen her past life with certain characters from her point of view. For example, we do not know her history with Pedro, her relationship with dogstorm, cat viper, Wanda, or her reason behind her set goal. Instead, we get the bare Minimum in terms of what she was not good at. Which does show us she is not good at swordsmanship. She does, however, gain a new weapon which ends up being her gauntlets.
For example, from the zou flashback from what we have seen she was a background character and in the whole cake island arc she had one panel that we have seen from countless supports characters like chew chew, Paulie, Bartolomeo, Pudding, and otama. Carrot had one backstory ends up being the remarkable like a background character and side character. Saying that “carrot backstory is the present” is not a good excuse because her character is not the focus of the story right now and We have not seen her throughout the wano arc as of now.
The difference between Nami and Robin situation they were at least the main characters and official members of the crew. During adventure alongside with Luffy and rest of strawhats they were surprised how Luffy, and the rest of the characters interact and treated each other. In comparison to the different crews, they use work with. Not only that they were active throughout their adventures alongside with them they did not follow into the background
To continue Nami and Robin before they join and after they join, they gave certain dialogue that could lead to potential backstory and arc that would center around them as characters. While carrot on other hand did not add any new revelation coming from her. Nami and robin they did have a personal enemy that would not be relevant until later in the story. For example, Nami dislike pirates with a passion because of Arlong and Robin there were to many enemies within her dream which is the world government and its darkness. Arlong park would explain everything that was going with Nami and Water 7 and enies lobby would explain everything that was going on with Robin. Carrot by comparison does not future enemy that strawhats need to resolve for her to become one of them.
Zou flashback part 1 - Imgur
Zou flashback final - Imgur
Whole cake island flashback comparison
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3. Carrot’s personal enemies have already been resolved by non strawhats
When a strawhats before or after they join Luffy's crew. It is Luffy who resolve their problem. In carrot situation Luffy never came to her defense against her personal main enemies that had affect her life on a personal level. You could say katakuri is good example of this circumstance. However, throughout the fight Luffy was not really fighting for carrot own behalf. He was fighting to protect the lives of his crew, his allies and improve himself.
Yes, you could say carrot follows the category of an ally. However, Katakuri was not an enemy that betrayed her ideals, hinder her progress in life or had affect her life on personal level. Yes, Katakuri is enemy that pin her down when she tried to attack him and mock her for crying after Pedro’s sacrifice. However, he is not an enemy that carrot reflects on to have a personal grudge against. They are three personal enemies that did effect on the young bunny girl life. That was kanjuro, jack, and Perospero All three ended up facing defeat by Kinemon, dog storm and cat viper. By that logic there is no incentive for her to continue her journey with the strawhats further beyond.
Time to Face it. Carrot she has no future antagonist that has hinder progress in life, betray her ideals, and does not have an enemy that personally affect her life. The reason is they have all been dealt with by non strawhat characters. What about the giants she was interested in? When she was bathing alongside with Nami"? "She was being very curious if they were real or not"? The thing about that is. She does not have a “Personal grudge” against the giants because she has never seen them before. Plus, according to dog storm Zou had been at peace for thousand years until jack had arrive.
4. Luffy is not even fixated on wanting her to be member of his team.
The fact is this when Jimbei return the story the strawhats were celebrating his arrival not carrot. During the recruitment ceremony they were about celebrate Jimbei as newest member of the crew. But Luffy than decide to let us hold celebration for now Until Kaido and Big mom are defeat. After their defeat let us have big party. Carrot is hardly even mentioned by Luffy as added member to the team. As matter fact she was not even taking part against Kaido forces in the tori gates or with the cheerleader squad.
The thing about Carrot is she has never faced any form of discrimination or being labeled as an outcast. The minks are discriminate against I will not deny that. But Carrot specifically, however, has never face any form of that. When she was with them in whole cake island, she was in a land of paradise and equality with a price. That price ends up being years of your life or one your body part being cut. The only people who did face any form of discrimination was Sanji for being a normal human being with human emotions. As well Pudding for having three eyes. The only person who did paid the price in whole cake island that we know of was pedro.
When Luffy usually picks out his crew they are usually considered to be outcast, discriminate against, and fear by from those around them. He, however, sees decent quality in their actions showing they are a good person at heart. Going out of his way to defend them and wanting them to be member of his team. Robin and Franky are the only characters who used to be antagonist before joining. Luffy let Robin join the crew based on the fact she was a good person at heart. Throughout alabasta arc she did save luffy not once but twice. Robin explains herself as to why she wanted to join because Luffy save her life when she originally wanted to die, she had also told them that she has no place to go or no place to return to, so she decides to join Luffy. After the foxy arc heading to water seven and enies lobby Robin tried to sacrifice her life in order protect the friends she made. Luffy and the rest of the strawhats went out of their way to rescue her because they do consider her as their friend because she had travel alongside with them in the past and she was member of their crew.
Franky was antagonist towards the strawhats. However, Throughout the arc water seven and enies Lobby there much more to his character that oda would explore. For example, he did care about the family that he had created. He had a full backstory that oda would explore, he had personal common enemy that strawhats were currently facing at the time, he fought alongside with the strawhats throughout water seven and enies lobby. His fight was not even skip over in comparison carrot wano. He was tremendous help to the strawhats in rescuing and protecting robin he had also built ship for them, and he had wanted poster alongside with them. But it was the Franky family and iceberg who went out there way to push Franky to go on journey alongside with strawhats to live out his dream.
The question ends up being is this. After the wano arc is over will Luffy chase around Carrot wanting her to be member of his team or would he want to be grateful towards Yamato in terms of what she had conducted throughout this raid? So, sneaking aboard the thousand sunny it is stupid idea, and it is just you day dreaming. The fact is Carrot already is friends with half of the strawhats she asks after the end the raid or at the party. The only reason you are making this excuse about “sneaking aboard” because your character has not done anything important or has no new revelation throughout wano arc that makes her stand out character. In addition, she has no future enemy that the strawhats need to resolve for her as a character. Nami and Robin would have a future enemy that would be relevant later in story which Luffy ends up resolving. Unlike Robin Carrot has a home in which she can return to. Yamato by comparison is the daughter of the former emperor of the sea who had ruined wano in the first place. Knowing how the one piece world does tend to discriminate against people base on their bloodlines against their former enemy that had ruin their lives in the first place there is no doubt she will not be accepted into wano. Despite her being friend’s momo and shinbou. Yamato will get a bounty since she is daughter/son of Kaido. People will only see her as Kaido’s descendant not her own person.
Just like They see
Luffy-The Grandson Garp the hero and son of the most wanted man in the world Dragon.
Zoro-as pirate hunter soon later may or not related shimotsuki ushimaru
Nami-cat burglar and former member of arlong pirates
Ussop-the village liar and son of yassop
Sanji-part germa and part the vinesmoke family.
Chopper-Monster
Robin- the last survivor ohara and one of the people who could read the poneglaphs
Franky-Cyborg, Pacifsta, and has one vegapunk laser in his body
Brook-Former member of the rumble pirates
JImbei-fishman, former warlord of the sea and former vice captain of sun pirates
5. Carrot is not even taking part in the big event in the one-piece story which is the wano arc.
Let us face the facts her fight was practically skip over in comparison to the strawhats and their alliance against their enemies. It is okay to lose a fight I will not deny that. It does help characters to grow and learn from that experience. What carrot is lacking is not taking part in the current arc at hand. I get that she has helps in earlier arc which was whole cake island. However, her fight in wano arc was completely off screen by comparison. So, you did not see any new abilities or new techniques from carrot's arsenal that makes her different than any other mink. None of the strawhats came to her defense or aid her in the situation. Strawhats have always defended countless characters and back them up in the past. Before, after, or former member of the crew. Characters such as Chopper, the former member of the crew ussop (sniper king during enies lobby) and the newest members soon to join the crew Brook and Jimbei. In Carrot scenario It does not help her move forward. It just puts her back into a supportive role and pushing her into the background. So, she ends up being less important in this raid and this arc so far. In this arc she ends being like paulie in water seven and enies lobby a character who pushes the main characters to main event rather than taken part in it.
Before strawhats usually joins they usually show their importance within the main event of the arc they are part of. Without their involvement the arc would drastically change. Let me give three perfect examples. Without Franky turning into ally to the strawhats they would lose robin. Without Brook learning the secret taking down the zombies like creatures the strawhats would not figure out how to get there shadows back. Not only that Brook tremendous help against taking down oars alongside with the strawhats. Without Jimbei involvement impel down Luffy would not be able to escape the prison he would still be there and most likely die. Ace would still be dead.
In Yamato case what did she do hmm? Well Yamato handles creating Ace’s virve card. Which did help Luffy reunite with ace. Sadly, he did not make it out alive. Knock out oars like creature who was chasing Franky. Holding off Kaido until luffy arrive to the battlefield for the third round. If Yamato had not done that everyone in the strawhats and their alliance would have been defeat or killed in live floor. As jimbei point out after Luffy earlier podcast wondering who was holding off Kaido. She did save Luffy life and weakened Ulti. Keeping Momo safe in order encourage the samurai to continue fighting. Preventing the explosive from going off. Yamato situation she was very encouraging and extremely helpful for the alliance success.
Carrot through this arc what did she do? All right saving Marco's life, teaming up with nami in order take down one of big mom's homies and her tag teaming with Wanda against perospero which ends up being skip over in comparison to the strawhats and their alliance loses the fight. She just stood there when cat viper was down when the moon was covered. She has not done anything since.
6. She has not given a reason behind her set dream/goal that she has.
When characters talk about their goals, dreams and promise that they want to achieve during their adventures. They go in depth what they are about, what they are, what they are looking for, and their reason behind their set dreams they have in mind. Carrot has no depth to her character explaining why she wants to achieve about her goal in terms of going on adventure seeing the world. Yamato on other hand has a backstory that shows us as to why she wants to achieve specific goal and she not waver since. Yamato has fought against her father for 2 decades but never won, fought for the samurai, as well her own freedom. Believing one day she will go on adventure see the world just like oden did get much stronger than she is now. She did not have a life call her own for 2 decades. Carrot by comparison coincidentally was at the wrong place at the wrong time. She had a good life until jack arrive, and she travel with strawhats experience tragedy and lost. The resolution of Carrot problems was already was resolves by other characters who were non straw hats. While Yamato situation is being manage by the strawhats.
Zoro-
Nami-
Ussop-
Sanji-
Chopper-
Robin-
Franky-https://imgur.com/a/KpczMII
Brook-https://imgur.com/a/ZfZxqUp
Jimbei-https://imgur.com/a/v0RAA3s
Yamato-https://imgur.com/a/GdPvFuA
7. Despite Carrot lost and history with the strawhats she has never said in anything about wanting to be better for luffy in the future of the story.
The strawhats have been in situations where they do feel unworthy if they can be helpful towards luffy in reaching his goal. In those events they previously lost fight or lost something important to them. The characters do make vowel to luffy that they will be better and be much stronger for him in the future. For Luffy response from my interpretation take that as you will. Luffy does not care if you win or lose as long you are alive here and now that is all that matters. Yamato did not believe she was not going to win against Kaido But. She was willing by time until Luffy returns. She does say as a child she will fight for wano sake when time comes, as well she will go out to sea get much stronger than she is now. Yamato might experience lost in a future arc, but Luffy will not hold against her. Carrot situation really has no self-reflection how weak she is and wanting to be better for luffy future.
https://imgur.com/a/CjaCPOV
Overall, do I believe Carrot could Join the crew? No, I do not believe she will. The way carrot has been treated throughout wano arc has me disappointed and how lackluster of character she has become. If your former carrot4nakama supporter, you should be disappointed. She has become less relevant and special as the wano arc goes on. She has not done anything important or giving us any new revelation that could lead to a potential future arc that would center around her as a character. She has no new abilities that really make her on par with the rest of the crew moving forward or she does not have any new stories to tell us. She is the same cute bunny girl who is just pushing the main characters to the battlefield. While she ends up being sideline has become less focus on.
She has not even witness Luffy's new transformation, him fighting against kaido, and him defeating Kaido as well. Will fans remember the importance throughout wano what carrot had conduct in comparison to the strawhats and their alliance? No, because she did not do anything at all beside saving Marco. There is no new dialogue, no new abilities and there no new revelation coming from her as a character. Her joining the strawhats at this moment in time would feel unsettling and unearned. Carrot in retrospect has become more of background and a side character just pushing the main characters to main event rather than take part in it. [/SIZE]
Let us face the facts her fight was practically skip over in comparison to the strawhats and their alliance against their enemies. It is okay to lose a fight I will not deny that. It does help characters to grow and learn from that experience. What carrot is lacking is not taking part in the current arc at hand. I get that she has helps in earlier arc which was whole cake island. However, her fight in wano arc was completely off screen by comparison. So, you did not see any new abilities or new techniques from carrot's arsenal that makes her different than any other mink. None of the strawhats came to her defense or aid her in the situation. Strawhats have always defended countless characters and back them up in the past. Before, after, or former member of the crew. Characters such as Chopper, the former member of the crew ussop (sniper king during enies lobby) and the newest members soon to join the crew Brook and Jimbei. In Carrot scenario It does not help her move forward. It just puts her back into a supportive role and pushing her into the background. So, she ends up being less important in this raid and this arc so far. In this arc she ends being like paulie in water seven and enies lobby a character who pushes the main characters to main event rather than taken part in it.
Before strawhats usually joins they usually show their importance within the main event of the arc they are part of. Without their involvement the arc would drastically change. Let me give three perfect examples. Without Franky turning into ally to the strawhats they would lose robin. Without Brook learning the secret taking down the zombies like creatures the strawhats would not figure out how to get there shadows back. Not only that Brook tremendous help against taking down oars alongside with the strawhats. Without Jimbei involvement impel down Luffy would not be able to escape the prison he would still be there and most likely die. Ace would still be dead.
In Yamato case what did she do hmm? Well Yamato handles creating Ace’s virve card. Which did help Luffy reunite with ace. Sadly, he did not make it out alive. Knock out oars like creature who was chasing Franky. Holding off Kaido until luffy arrive to the battlefield for the third round. If Yamato had not done that everyone in the strawhats and their alliance would have been defeat or killed in live floor. As jimbei point out after Luffy earlier podcast wondering who was holding off Kaido. She did save Luffy life and weakened Ulti. Keeping Momo safe in order encourage the samurai to continue fighting. Preventing the explosive from going off. Yamato situation she was very encouraging and extremely helpful for the alliance success.
Carrot through this arc what did she do? All right saving Marco's life, teaming up with nami in order take down one of big mom's homies and her tag teaming with Wanda against perospero which ends up being skip over in comparison to the strawhats and their alliance loses the fight. She just stood there when cat viper was down when the moon was covered. She has not done anything since.
6. She has not given a reason behind her set dream/goal that she has.
When characters talk about their goals, dreams and promise that they want to achieve during their adventures. They go in depth what they are about, what they are, what they are looking for, and their reason behind their set dreams they have in mind. Carrot has no depth to her character explaining why she wants to achieve about her goal in terms of going on adventure seeing the world. Yamato on other hand has a backstory that shows us as to why she wants to achieve specific goal and she not waver since. Yamato has fought against her father for 2 decades but never won, fought for the samurai, as well her own freedom. Believing one day she will go on adventure see the world just like oden did get much stronger than she is now. She did not have a life call her own for 2 decades. Carrot by comparison coincidentally was at the wrong place at the wrong time. She had a good life until jack arrive, and she travel with strawhats experience tragedy and lost. The resolution of Carrot problems was already was resolves by other characters who were non straw hats. While Yamato situation is being manage by the strawhats.
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Franky-https://imgur.com/a/KpczMII
Brook-https://imgur.com/a/ZfZxqUp
Jimbei-https://imgur.com/a/v0RAA3s
Yamato-https://imgur.com/a/GdPvFuA
7. Despite Carrot lost and history with the strawhats she has never said in anything about wanting to be better for luffy in the future of the story.
The strawhats have been in situations where they do feel unworthy if they can be helpful towards luffy in reaching his goal. In those events they previously lost fight or lost something important to them. The characters do make vowel to luffy that they will be better and be much stronger for him in the future. For Luffy response from my interpretation take that as you will. Luffy does not care if you win or lose as long you are alive here and now that is all that matters. Yamato did not believe she was not going to win against Kaido But. She was willing by time until Luffy returns. She does say as a child she will fight for wano sake when time comes, as well she will go out to sea get much stronger than she is now. Yamato might experience lost in a future arc, but Luffy will not hold against her. Carrot situation really has no self-reflection how weak she is and wanting to be better for luffy future.
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Overall, do I believe Carrot could Join the crew? No, I do not believe she will. The way carrot has been treated throughout wano arc has me disappointed and how lackluster of character she has become. If your former carrot4nakama supporter, you should be disappointed. She has become less relevant and special as the wano arc goes on. She has not done anything important or giving us any new revelation that could lead to a potential future arc that would center around her as a character. She has no new abilities that really make her on par with the rest of the crew moving forward or she does not have any new stories to tell us. She is the same cute bunny girl who is just pushing the main characters to the battlefield. While she ends up being sideline has become less focus on.
She has not even witness Luffy's new transformation, him fighting against kaido, and him defeating Kaido as well. Will fans remember the importance throughout wano what carrot had conduct in comparison to the strawhats and their alliance? No, because she did not do anything at all beside saving Marco. There is no new dialogue, no new abilities and there no new revelation coming from her as a character. Her joining the strawhats at this moment in time would feel unsettling and unearned. Carrot in retrospect has become more of background and a side character just pushing the main characters to main event rather than take part in it. [/SIZE]
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