Speculations Question for the ZKK enthusiasts

[Thabeast]

It's amazing how after over a 1000 chapters Zorocucks have not grasped the fact Zoro isn't as important to One Piece as Luffy is



Zoro. Is. Done.

Oda : "Luffy, Zoro & Nami are the triggers of OP"

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Quadruple the damage it is

Meaning?? The amount of damage Zoro takes in every battle has always been immense, and he has not only pulled through each time, his opponents are often shocked by his durability. Chopper sews him up real quick, bing bang boom, he’s separating Kaido’s head from his neck, I don’t see any issue here

 

[Adamxero]

Oda : "Luffy, Zoro & Nami are the triggers of OP"

Yet... we follow Luffy arc to arc not Zoro or Nami.

Who did we follow most in Dressrosa when Nami went with Sanji to Zou. We followed Luffy.

Who did we follow when Zoro went to Wano and Luffy went to WCI ah that's right Luffy.

Delude yourself all you want you're just making yourself look even more stupid when it becomes blatantly obvious to even the Zorocucks that ZKK ain't ever happening

 

[CbShadow]

Oda : "Luffy, Zoro & Nami are the triggers of OP"

It's always the same with some. They are provided facts and their response is always that's wrong with translates to Oda is wrong.


Imagine telling Oda he is wrong about his own manga.

 

[Thabeast]

Yet... we follow Luffy arc to arc not Zoro or Nami.

Who did we follow most in Dressrosa when Nami went with Sanji to Zou. We followed Luffy.

Who did we follow when Zoro went to Wano and Luffy went to WCI ah that's right Luffy.

Delude yourself all you want you're just making yourself look even more stupid when it becomes blatantly obvious to even the Zorocucks that ZKK ain't ever happening

Point is : Zoro is very damn important and one of the 3 cores/triggers of OP and if you don't like it then go argue with Oda.

Ofc Luffy being the muh MC will have more screen time and generally more shine but if Zoro can overshadow Luffy in Whiskey Peak & Thriller Bark for example, he can very well do it again in the Samurai arc.

 

[BleakAsh]

Meaning?? The amount of damage Zoro takes in every battle has always been immense, and he has not only pulled through each time, his opponents are often shocked by his durability. Chopper sews him up real quick, bing bang boom, he’s separating Kaido’s head from his neck, I don’t see any issue here

sounds convenient...only if it was that convenient and not flipin ludicrous LMAO

Zoro ain't no mega sage to will it through, what would be, a beyond crippled body, which he already couldn't maintain initially when was first crippled , and now the culmination of wounds inflicted by king.

even during thriller bark he posed it of like literally "Nothing happened" but the dude was a breath away from death.. this is far worse.

 

[CbShadow]

I have yet to see everyone claiming Zoro can't return to battle, because of his condition, bring any rational explanation or logic as to why Oda put Zoro in near death condition and it still pushing that plotline if he's not going to do anything with it.

All they do is claim he can't return or if he does it's an asspull.

 

[Fn Lucci]

sounds convenient...only if it was that convenient and not flipin ludicrous LMAO

Zoro ain't no mega sage to will it through, what would be, a beyond crippled body, which he already couldn't maintain initially when was first crippled , and now the culmination of wounds inflicted by king.

even during thriller bark he posed it of like literally "Nothing happened" but the dude was a breath away from death.. this is far worse.

"Understanding" stands over faith in the unseen so once again God Usopp must be an advocate

Spoiler

 

[BleakAsh]

I have yet to see everyone claiming Zoro can't return to battle, because of his condition, bring any rational explanation or logic as to why Oda put Zoro in near death condition and it still pushing that plotline if he's not going to do anything with it.

All they do is claim he can't return or if he does it's an asspull.

what if he gets up by some odd asspull recovery

and zkk still doesn't happen... WHAT YOU GON DO THEN

either way even tho its unlikely that he's getting up.. but it ain't impossible.. oda makes the Reaper some kinda convenient awakening tool for zoli in what sense.. mystical to say the least and definitively unprecedented or zoro is still has his time left until the dosage runs out.. but is still heavily wounded after king fight.. and the Reaper just delays the double damage further SOMEHOW.

almost everything depends on the reaper if you want zoro to get up.. he might it seem meh without him in action but consciousness is enough.

 

[Franosuke]

I have yet to see everyone claiming Zoro can't return to battle, because of his condition, bring any rational explanation or logic as to why Oda put Zoro in near death condition and it still pushing that plotline if he's not going to do anything with it.

All they do is claim he can't return or if he does it's an asspull.

For some reason, it makes more sense to them that Zoro saw a literal GRIM REAPER in front of him and it just gets written off & forgotten with no actual explanation, as opposed to it being used as an actual plot device for something

 

[Fn Lucci]

For some reason, it makes more sense to them that Zoro saw a literal GRIM REAPER in front of him and it just gets written off & forgotten with no actual explanation, as opposed to it being used as an actual plot device for something

That's what I meant. Usopp saw a spirit magically tied to an inanimate ship and it turned out to actually be something. Zoro calls himself the king of hell, Enma in hand, moments before he sees a reaper and people are like "nah he's high from the medicine." What kind of drug makes you see shit when it wears off? Lol

It would be ridiculous storytelling if Zoro hallucinates about death when he doesn't even know why, and Oda dismisses it after six months by reiterating what Chopper said on the very same page.

 

[Franosuke]

What kind of drug makes you see shit when it wears off?

LMAOO I hadn't thought of putting it like that

 

[CbShadow]

what if he gets up by some odd asspull recovery

and zkk still doesn't happen... WHAT YOU GON DO THEN

either way even tho its unlikely that he's getting up.. but it ain't impossible.. oda makes the Reaper some kinda convenient awakening tool for zoli in what sense.. mystical to say the least and definitively unprecedented or zoro is still has his time left until the dosage runs out.. but is still heavily wounded after king fight.. and the Reaper just delays the double damage further SOMEHOW.

almost everything depends on the reaper if you want zoro to get up.. he might it seem meh without him in action but consciousness is enough.

All you're saying is Zoro's near death experience is pointless.

There's no point to having Zoro go through near death experience if Oda won't have ZKK. Zoro near death experience plotline is not needed if he doesn't have any other major plans for Zoro.

Whenever we see Zoro have a near-death experience it always involves him growing stronger and achieving a major goal. Zoro near-death experience against Mr one was to pushed him to obtain the power, haki, to defeat Mr 1. Zoro near-death experience against Kuma was to save Luffy and all the SH from Kuma.

Once again Zorro is experiencing a near-death experience. There is a significant reason for it. Sanji and Luffy both received their near death experience and it pushed them to obtain the power to defeat their opponent. Zoro's near death experience occurred after his battle against King so it wasn't for King.

 

[Soyz]

A person got car crash ending up in the ICU
- recover in less than a day
- recover in 20+ day

So you think the latter is more asspull? What multiverse you are in?

Applying real life to one piece , than why luffy cant wake up and deal with kaido if he comes back ? hes in better condition then zoro currently , when zoro got badly hurt before he didnt fight until next arc unless there was an asspull like the mink stuff, zoro doesn't have it he will just overcome death and get a black blade.

 

[Finalbeta]

How is Zoro suppose to fight Kaido in the state he is in?

- he's still unconcious
- his bones are still broken
- he's suffering double the damage from mink medicine after affects

I just want a reasonable explanation as to how Zoro would fight in this condition? much more kill a presumably "awakened" Kaido

Do you expect Oda to magically recover Zoro? It did happen for Luffy which was an asspull itself but at least Luffy has a devil fruit

I feel he will probably return conscious soon cause the Grim Reaper plot seems to have kicked in and is probably not something Oda would pull in without a deep reason.

 

[Fn Lucci]

Applying real life to one piece , than why luffy cant wake up and deal with kaido if he comes back ?

For the same reason he lets people carry him around after Gear 4.

As for Zoro getting a black blade otherwise,

 

[Soyz]

For the same reason he lets people carry him around after Gear 4.

As for Zoro getting a black blade otherwise,

gear 5th is not the same as gear 4th u saw that how he can recover his stamina with his fruit, zoro has been knocked out for almost 20 chapters, not the same situation at all

 

[Jew D. Boy]

sounds convenient...only if it was that convenient and not flipin ludicrous LMAO

Zoro ain't no mega sage to will it through, what would be, a beyond crippled body, which he already couldn't maintain initially when was first crippled , and now the culmination of wounds inflicted by king.

even during thriller bark he posed it of like literally "Nothing happened" but the dude was a breath away from death.. this is far worse.

Sorry it sounds “too convenient” in a manga where we just saw the main character die and come back to life with a totally different power than he’d had in the previous thousand chapters, but if you can’t suspend your disbelief far enough to include a much more reasonable occurrence, then I don’t know what to tell you. I’m just saying that a lot of y’all have been betting against Zoro for all of Wano and earlier, and he hasn’t done anything in that time except prove you wrong at every turn

 

[HA001]

gear 5th is not the same as gear 4th u saw that how he can recover his stamina with his fruit, zoro has been knocked out for almost 20 chapters, not the same situation at all

Exactly
Zoro hasn't received medical attention for 20 chapters if he was done he'd be sidelined and bandaged like luffy and sanji have been after their fights

 

[Shisui]

First, we have to understand that Oda is still pushing the "Zoro near death experience" plotline for a reason. Zoro still have received medical service. If all Oda wanted to do was keep Zoro out of the battle he could have had Frankie bandage him up and him regain consciousness in this chapter but he didn't.

Second, Zoro bones are not broken. The medicine side effects doesn't rebreak his bones. Just cause him double the pain.

There are a few ways Oda could bring Zoro back.

- Marco could heal Zoro. Even if he can't fully heal Zoro he can participate heal him.

- Chopper could create medicine based on Oni ice virus to revive Zoro. We know the virus will revive a character's strength back to their prime like it did with Hyou. Chopper has the antidote to heal Zoro.

- Hawkins could come back and use his magical cards to revive him. The manga still hasn't explained who the 1% person is. We don't even know the purpose to his grim reaper card.

This makes sense no cap