Powers & Abilities So does everyone agree Enma not a power up now.

Will Enma be Zoro's new favorite sword over the Wado
I doubt this is ever possible. I mean Zoro isnt sentimental about alot of things but he's definitely sentimental about that

Oda even recently said that the reason he only uses Wado Ichimonji in his mouth. Like it's a test of resolve or something. He would have to start using Enma in his mouth for it to mean more to him than Wado
 
I never said he couldn't cut that cliff. However once again the staging doesn't let any doubt. Zoro's AP has increased.
Zoros AP increased from cutting the tree to cutting the cliff because of his own haki that enma forcefully used. Its not like enma itself boosted his AP in any way, shape or form.

Will Enma be Zoro's new favorite sword over the Wado
no
 
HOW?

PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME THE MECHANICS.

The only thing the sword has been stated to do is use too much of the users energy.

Are you saying the sword has ANOTHER effect that you somehow know but the rest of us missed
You misses that it makes your strikes stronger.
I dont try to explain how it works. I give you my arguments about why it's a powerUp in himself.
I dont care about how it works. A lot of things with Haki aren't clear I guess. Especially when it comes to CoA with swords. Everything I could say will be a theory.

What I know is the staging with Enma doesn't let any doubt about him being a training tool or a powerup in himself.
I just use shonen codes. Codes that Oda has always use and continue to use. If you can prove Enma is the exception in all shonen or they have others exceptions you are welcome.

Just to go further :
-Why Enma is so different of Shusui or Sandai ? I mean he needed to be use to those swords right ? Thats mean they are also training tool ?
-Have you ever seen a training tool more hyped than the actual training ?
They have two panel of zoro getting used to Enma and at least 10x more just to hype Emma. Moreover those two panels are focused to talk about an other future PowerUp.
Just compare to every training SH did get thats nothing for a training who is here to fight a Younko and his crew in a War.
Or compare it to Seastone cuffs Luffy gets they didn't get such staging but they are also training tool ?

I cant give more arguments like those one. Believe me the list is way too long.
He cut the punk hazard dragon with shusui
It was Wado. Zoro dont use Shusui in his mouth.

No my friend YOU'RE THE ONE DEALING IN HEADCANON

The only feat Enma has is cutting kaido. Yet Ame no Habakiri has it too. So its very obvious that Oden did not lose his strength just because he used another sword. Why are you saying Zoro would lose his strength if Oden didn't?
Feats depends of the user. You dont understand.
Does every Zoro's sword are equal in Power ?
No but when he use them at the same time. The strike is more powerful.

I dont understand your example he use Ame and Enma so how do you know he didnt lose any power ?

So please stop your headcannons.

Zoros AP increased from cutting the tree to cutting the cliff because of his own haki that enma forcefully used. Its not like enma itself boosted his AP in any way, shape or form.
If it was just CoA none of SH will have notice it.
 
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eats depends of the user. You dont understand.
Does every Zoro's sword are equal in Power ?
No but when he use them at the same time. The strike is more powerful.

I dont understand your example he use Ame and Enma so how do you know he didnt lose any power ?
Enma does the exact same amount of Damage as Ame no habikiri. That means to Oden there was no difference in the swords. So why would there be a difference in the swords when Zoro uses his other swords?
 

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Everyone who comes in here and claims Enma by itself is a power up, literally in the same sentence explains how it is not a power up. Then you have the same people responding with the same answer from about 15-20 pages ago which has been repeated since then, only for them to be met with disagreement for the sake of disagreement.

Sprinkle some "Enma might not be a powerup but Zoro powered up" posts, like that's even being disputed in the first place, and you got yourself 20 pages of quality content (y).
 
For god sake the sword uses more of the users energy than he wants

Why are you trying to make it seem like t creates it's own energy or something?

There's no indication that it makes strikes stronger. STOP YOUR HEAD CANON
It's stated excessive Ryuoou more powerful strikes. Which headcannon I use the chapter ?
Do you not know what Shishi sonson is?

Zoro doesnt perform Shishi sonson with the sword in his mouth... geez
Have you look the chapter 656 ? Please tell me where do you see Zoro using Shusui alone. Just check yourself.
I told you it's Wado Ichimonji that He is using.
Zoro never puts Shusui in his mouth.
By the way we see Shusui in his sheath.

Enma does the exact same amount of Damage as Ame no habikiri. That means to Oden there was no difference in the swords. So why would there be a difference in the swords when Zoro uses his other swords?
Are Sandai and Shusui equal, Sandai and Enma ?
No. So you have a difference ? Yes it's a fair assumption.

Now can you answer because none of you gives an answer yet.

-Why Enma is so different of Shusui or Sandai ? I mean he needed to be use to those swords right ? Thats mean they are also training tool ?
-Have you ever seen a training tool more hyped than the actual training ?
They have two panel of zoro getting used to Enma and at least 10x more just to hype Emma. Moreover those two panels are focused to talk about an other future PowerUp.
Just compare to every training SH did get thats nothing for a training who is here to fight a Younko and his crew in a War.
Or compare it to Seastone cuffs Luffy gets they didn't get such staging but they are also training tool ?

Also we call that a training but Zoro only said get use to this sword. By the way Hitetsu said this "training" was easier for Zoro since he have Wado.
Explain me how posses a sword help you to manage well your CoA with an other sword ?

Explain me this mechanics. You seems to know everything about CoA.
 
It's stated excessive Ryuoou more powerful strikes. Which headcannon I use the chapter ?
Its Zoro's Ryou isn't it?

What are you saying here exactly? That because the sword used Zoro's power which Zoro could already use himself if he wanted, then that counts as The sword gave Zoro a boost. Yet you admit that Zoro could've already done this and the sword is just using the power Zoro already has?
 
Have you look the chapter 656 ? Please tell me where do you see Zoro using Shusui alone. Just check yourself.
I told you it's Wado Ichimonji that He is using.
Zoro never puts Shusui in his mouth.
By the way we see Shusui in his sheath.
Let me ask something, are you saying You can perform Shishi sonson with the sword in the mouth?

Also Shishi sonson is called Santoryu Lai: Shishi sonson. Do you know what the "lai" part means?
 
Let me ask something, are you saying You can perform Shishi sonson with the sword in the mouth?
He cut the punk hazard dragon with shusui
You answered this to this :
The first ittoryu with Shusui was against Monet.

Have you look the chapter ? Where do you see Zoro using Shusui ? Please show me ?

Its Zoro's Ryou isn't it?

What are you saying here exactly? That because the sword used Zoro's power which Zoro could already use himself if he wanted, then that counts as The sword gave Zoro a boost. Yet you admit that Zoro could've already done this and the sword is just using the power Zoro already has?
I told you I dont know how it's work.
Why you dont just answered to my question ?
Make some efforts.
You will understand why it's a PowerUp.
So what makes Enma and Ame no Habakiri equal then that makes Enma and Wado Ichimonji unequal?
I never talked about Wado.
How do you know things about Wado Power ?
She is a part of Zoro like gomu gomu no mi for Luffy.
 
Lets look at it this way, say once zoro has completed his training and switches enma back with shusui. Does that mean it's a downgrade? No.
- Blackened Shusui: still is a Great-Grade Meito

- Blackened Enma: Has the potential to become a Supreme-Grade Meito (same level as Yoru/Murakumogiri) when blackened

why would Zoro ever toss away Enma when it has better growth potential than Shusui?
 
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