General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[Blother Fertitta]

Dizzy is at most 15 year old guys stop going so hard on kids

No remorse for furries

 

[Adamxero]

Don't worry, if an L happen I will take it, now is not the time. But I think you should also be prepared to take a huge one..

You see, If I'm wrong, I still win, my conclusion would be wrong, but the setup and everything I noticed in the story is still here so my reasonning minus the conclusion would still holds a cadle in term of narration and possibilities of the story...

But if I'm right, I'm not only proving my point, I'm proving that EVERYBODY here was completely and utterly IGNORANT on the subject and completely full of themselves. I would be creating an earthquake so strong on that thread that it would be ripping a hole in all your missconceptions about storytelling in the span of a mear second..

So.. yes I'm prepared.. but don't forget that it could go my way too.. and if that happens.. I wouldn't want to be in your embarassing shoes.



Yes it do changes things, in fact the difference of treatment do changes things.



Rebecca was a main Arc character, the comparison with Carrot is therefore completely irrelevant.

You know that narratively, Morj was actually right to expect the fail of the raid. He just didn't take into account the development of the Gear 5.



Strange, I see the opposite



Luffy will probably not reject her, she will just change her mind





Damn, there are actually good mods on reddit. No wonder worstgen is becoming the place for the right wing confusionnist mascus and incel part of the One Piece fanbase if people like you guys find yourself at home here. Glad I'll be gone soon. Eww it stinks.




There are, you are just missing them

Good places for you to cry and accuse people of sexism because they didn't agree with your furry fetishism.



Besides everyone knows Kirosh is a beta cuck and his wife's boyfriend really is the one who controls his reddit.



She will change her mind based on what... headcanon?



Yamato has said numerous times she wants to set out to sea while Larrot hasn't once said she wanted to go out to sea with Luffy.

Oh. Right. Subversive Affirmation right

 

[Monkey D Al]

Yeah because you have your own world separate from the reality...



Carrot has Not personally sure if I'm gonna miss this... When I first stepped into this thread, one of the Dumbster Trio was already polluting here...

Don't worry, if an L happen I will take it, now is not the time. But I think you should also be prepared to take a huge one..

You see, If I'm wrong, I still win, my conclusion would be wrong, but the setup and everything I noticed in the story is still here so my reasonning minus the conclusion would still holds a cadle in term of narration and possibilities of the story...

But if I'm right, I'm not only proving my point, I'm proving that EVERYBODY here was completely and utterly IGNORANT on the subject and completely full of themselves. I would be creating an earthquake so strong on that thread that it would be ripping a hole in all your missconceptions about storytelling in the span of a mear second..

So.. yes I'm prepared.. but don't forget that it could go my way too.. and if that happens.. I wouldn't want to be in your embarassing shoes.



Yes it do changes things, in fact the difference of treatment do changes things.



Rebecca was a main Arc character, the comparison with Carrot is therefore completely irrelevant.

You know that narratively, Morj was actually right to expect the fail of the raid. He just didn't take into account the development of the Gear 5.



Strange, I see the opposite



Luffy will probably not reject her, she will just change her mind





Damn, there are actually good mods on reddit. No wonder worstgen is becoming the place for the right wing confusionnist mascus and incel part of the One Piece fanbase if people like you guys find yourself at home here. Glad I'll be gone soon. Eww it stinks.




There are, you are just missing them

carrot won’t join though

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Yeah lol. Been the case for ages back on the OJ threads. You and many others were often arguing against me, yet never once did I genuinely consider that any of you (bar a special someone) may have previously been in an asylum.

Yet here we are, and we've somehow got the feet lickers, the mentally ill, and ravagerblade all united on one side. By default, simply being opposed to that makes you unquestionably in the right.

Got clowns whom I didn't even know existed until today, wallowing about the impact I've had on their lives. Utterly jobless doesn't begin to describe it lmfao

Ur right it truly isn't a surprise how they became so enamoured for Yamao. A retarded 28 year old, living in her parents' basement who's deluded herself into thinking she's someone that matters. You can see why they took so quickly to the character

I’m actually 30 and live in the attic.

 

[KonyaruIchi]

You know that narratively, Morj was actually right to expect the fail of the raid. He just didn't take into account the development of the Gear 5.

Why am I not surprised you're part of the crowd who would agree with Lorj's shaky and misguided theories

 

[Judgement]

Let's see what Luffy thinks, but I think Yamato is totally awesome! Hopefully she'll learn to be proud of her own name when she goes on adventures with the Straw Hats.

 

[svartvarg97]

Guys you surely have too much time in your hands, since every time I come back there are something like 10 pages of posts lol

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

I'm done arguing that argument I got banned off Reddit for it for telling all the Tumblr weirdos that Yamato wasn't trans and that the trans people were projecting themselves onto Yamato to feel represented.

Best mod Kirosh banned me for calling Yamato a female when there was a direct panel of Yamato being introduced as Kaido's daughter then to top it off a lot of the Yamato is trans fans on Reddit started claiming they were victims despite insulting and calling people all types of IST for not bowing down to their Yamato is trans agenda.

Worstgen may have a lot of Zorocucks but I'd take that any day over the SJW tumblr and Reddit users.

They believe Sanji is now Bi btw

 

[Ballel]

Guys you surely have too much time in your hands, since every time I come back there are something like 10 pages of posts lol

And there's not even any news

Not like we can expect any news on Saturdays

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Yet here we are, and we've somehow got the feet lickers, the mentally ill, and ravagerblade all united on one side.

@Ravagerblade got his own category

 

[Logiko]

According to your technique, I will apply your reasonings to Yamato:

No it doesn't.

YAMATO - You could argue that Yamato is just a "combattant", but narratively, Yamato is much more than that: she has the Guardian of Wano Devil Fruit. The guardian DF is supposed to have enough strength to take the role as guardian/defender/protector if necessary. In theory, they are also here to not just defend, but also attacks offensively, which mean she as a combatant needs to go to... combat. The fact that Yamato is the one choosed by Oda and designed for that role is not innocent. Yamato is a woman driven by justice. In Wano, she is a functional combatant and guardian, and everything from her GUARDING Momo, stalling Kaido, defuse the bomb, motivate Momo, to her abilities of putting off the flames, freeze the bomb, enhanced mythical zoan durability to defend, are enhanced to reaffirme that characterization: The theme of the guardian, the combatant, her backstory. Everything in the story of her repressed childhood, idolizing Oden, loves freedom, wanting to set sail, is created so that she can guard Momo, Wano, and everything. That's why Yamato is fit for the job of Combatant and/or Guardian and the protector of Luffy.

Combattant is not a role on a ship. I hear what you are saying and I understand that Yamato is indeed characterized as a combattant, but on the ship, it doesn't matter. Their is a reason the role of Zoro was never announced as a official "combattant", his role is FIRST MATE. That's his role on the ship, in the undertext of the story, not combattant. Again, a role must have something to do with the PLACE on the Sunny. "Combattant" alone means nothing, it has no self value.

AMATO - Yamato is the Log Keeper. But she is not "just" a Log Keeper. Her entire characterization is designed to make her a great Log Keeper: Yamato is characterized as one who loves freedom. This trait of character is what permits her to go adventuring and explore the world, and write them down. Making her amazing for the job. But the post is not only enhanced through Yamato's cahracterization, it was enhance by the entire arc Yamato was in, a shackled and repressed character who wants freedom so that she can explore the world and WRITE all of it. The concept of "being a Log Keeper" was designed to be impactfull because Momo found confidence by reading his father's Log Book and the need for it to be urgent, because Yamato know some helpful info about reaching Laugh Tale from Oden's Log Book. All of that made the post very relevant in term of Narration.

No their is NOTHING in Yamato's characterization showing that she is a Log keeper. Inin contrary to what you are saying nothing in the milking surrounding Yamato is leading us to believe that. Nothing.

YAMATO - Yamato is the Apprentice. At first sight, the milking of the relationship between her characterization and that post is not obvious, but a closer look is helpfull. In reality, the post is also an extension of Yamato's characterization and narrative. Yamato is one of the least experienced of the crew (they are 3, Chopper(Naivety)/Usopp(Cowardice)/Nami(Timidity)), she acts as a little sister of the crew. In a sence, Yamato is very similar to Chopper but when Chopper's thematic is focused around naivety, Yamato's thematic is more focused around inexperience. She is the one that doesn't know a lot about real pirate in outside world works. This is why Yamato is not only a Apprentice litterally but also figuratively. Yamato is the ones who observe and learn. She is the curious one and the one you need to teach when everything is burning around you. All of this thematic is extented by the fact that Yamato is from the Wano, she directely witnessed oppression and is guided by one thing Oden's Log Book: to help FREE Wano and explore the sea LIKE ODEN as Apprentice. You can also add to that that the role of the apprentice was her motivation and goal in helping the war during the raid of Onigashima.. and you got here the perfect job for Yamato. Making sence narratively because by helping the alliance wins the war, she can free Wano and set sail outside AS APPRENTICE and in term of characterization, a Princess who is jailed all her life to learn about the outside world, AS APPRENTICE.

Yes, Yamato could be an apprentice I could actually accept that as Yamato is indeed characterized through inexperience. That's the only potential possibility for Yamato on the crew. But given her confidence, her age and her strenght, this possibility is more than unlikely.

Except the is no difference besides panel time, wich you still have to provide evidence to why that makes her any different than the other girls

Of course their is a difference mate, hundreds of panel of difference. Her treatments are in NO WAY similar. Camie is treated as a background helping character who do not take part into the action, when Carrot is directly taking part into the action, you are out of the field here mate, those case are completely different. So don't try to compare Carrot to such character.

Again, so was Carrot

Not at all, Carrot has NEVER been a main arc character. Main arc character are the character that are the most focused on during the arc, that are thematically the most relevant, they are few on each arc. On whole cake it was for example Sanji / Big Mom / Pudding and Luffy
NOT Carrot or Pedro or even Chopper.

Good places for you to cry and accuse people of sexism because they didn't agree with your furry fetishism.

If there is a fetish with Furry, it's ith you guys who keep talking about it, not with me.

Besides everyone knows Kirosh is a beta cuck and his wife's boyfriend really is the one who controls his reddit.

Oh! An incel argumentation

Oh. Right. Subversive Affirmation right

Yeah, and you are about to feel that just fine

carrot won’t join though

She will tho

Why am I not surprised you're part of the crowd who would agree with Lorj's shaky and misguided theories

Because Morj is one of the few analyst that has an actual understanding of storytelling. I do not agree vith everything with him (for instance, that the raid would fail) but he knows his stuff and his theory are based on real storytelling instinct (I don't think he has a full knowledge yet)

 

[ARMeni]

Yeah lol. Been the case for ages back on the OJ threads. You and many others were often arguing against me, yet never once did I genuinely consider that any of you (bar a special someone) may have previously been in an asylum.

Yet here we are, and we've somehow got the feet lickers, the mentally ill, and ravagerblade all united on one side. By default, simply being opposed to that makes you unquestionably in the right.

Got clowns whom I didn't even know existed until today, wallowing about the impact I've had on their lives. Utterly jobless doesn't begin to describe it lmfao

Ur right it truly isn't a surprise how they became so enamoured for Yamao. A retarded 28 year old, living in her parents' basement who's deluded herself into thinking she's someone that matters. You can see why they took so quickly to the character

Yamato will join.

Carrot won't join.

 

[RoronoaZorro]

Combattant is not a role on a ship. I hear what you are saying and I understand that Yamato is indeed characterized as a combattant, but on the ship, it doesn't matter. Their is a reason the role of Zoro was never announced as a official "combattant"

Try reading the English Volumes' Character Introduction Page. There, you will see Zoro listed as Fighter, not First Mate.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

No it doesn't.


Combattant is not a role on a ship. I hear what you are saying and I understand that Yamato is indeed characterized as a combattant, but on the ship, it doesn't matter. Their is a reason the role of Zoro was never announced as a official "combattant", his role is FIRST MATE. That's his role on the ship, in the undertext of the story, not combattant. Again, a role must have something to do with the PLACE on the Sunny. "Combattant" alone means nothing, it has no self value.



No their is NOTHING in Yamato's characterization showing that she is a Log keeper. Inin contrary to what you are saying nothing in the milking surrounding Yamato is leading us to believe that. Nothing.





Yes, Yamato could be an apprentice I could actually accept that as Yamato is indeed characterized through inexperience. That's the only potential possibility for Yamato on the crew. But given her confidence, her age and her strenght, this possibility is more than unlikely.



Of course their is a difference mate, hundreds of panel of difference. Her treatments are in NO WAY similar. Camie is treated as a background helping character who do not take part into the action, when Carrot is directly taking part into the action, you are out of the field here mate, those case are completely different. So don't try to compare Carrot to such character.


Not at all, Carrot has NEVER been a main arc character. Main arc character are the character that are the most focused on during the arc, that are thematically the most relevant, they are few on each arc. On whole cake it was for example Sanji / Big Mom / Pudding and Luffy
NOT Carrot or Pedro or even Chopper.


If there is a fetish with Furry, it's ith you guys who keep talking about it, not with me.



Oh! An incel argumentation



Yeah, and you are about to feel that just fine



She will tho




Because Morj is one of the few analyst that has an actual understanding of storytelling. I do not agree vith everything with him (for instance, that the raid would fail) but he knows his stuff and his theory are based on real storytelling instinct (I don't think he has a full knowledge yet)

Storytelling instict

What does that weven mean

 

[Logiko]

Yamato will join.

Carrot won't join.

Indeed, Carrot will join and Yamato won't join.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Indeed, Carrot will join and Yamato won't join.

Yamato will join.
Carrot could join.
But king has already a spot.

 

[Logiko]

Try reading the English Volumes' Character Introduction Page. There, you will see Zoro listed as Fighter, not First Mate.

I only take the story into account and the mini series, the pages on the side don't mean squat.

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Storytelling instict

What does that weven mean

It mean that you have a good instinct on storytelling

 

[ARMeni]

Indeed, Carrot will join and Yamato won't join.

Hey, it's yet another day where you're monitorizing this thread.

Seeing as you have enough free time to reply to me in an unrelated post, will you define psychophobia now?

I'm eagerly waiting.

 

[KonyaruIchi]

Because Morj is one of the few analyst that has an actual understanding of storytelling. I do not agree vith everything with him (for instance, that the raid would fail) but he knows his stuff and his theory are based on real storytelling instinct (I don't think he has a full knowledge yet)

You said it yourself, he's an "analyst" and should probably stick to that. His theories, especially recently, are terrible and lack coherence. Most of his evidence is situational and cherrypicked at best and headcanon at worst. There's a reason Lorj isn't being taken seriously anymore and it's because he behaves like a complete clown. "Storytelling instinct" means absolutely nothing when you can't formulate a credible theory with it, it's just more pseudo-intellectual bullshit, and has proven more than once that no, he does not know "his stuff" when it comes to theorizing

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Storytelling instict

What does that weven mean

Some more made up concepts I'll bet

 

[Logiko]

Hey, it's yet another day where you're monitorizing this thread.

Seeing as you have enough free time to reply to me in an unrelated post, will you define psychophobia now?

I'm eagerly waiting.

I already did, go check the post.

. His theories, especially recently, are terrible and lack coherence. Most of his evidence is situational and cherrypicked at best and headcanon at worst.

That your go to words when you don't undersrtand a reasonning, right ?

"Storytelling instinct" means absolutely nothing

Yes it does, wether you like it or not.

Theory are not analysis, they can be wrong. only the author is god of his story. And Morj, like I said, has good analysing skills.

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Some more made up concepts I'll bet

It really feels like talking with flat earthers with you guys.. When you don't understand a concept "It'S a MaDe uP CoNcEpT"

 

[ARMeni]

I already did, go check the post.




That your go to words when you don't undersrtand a reasonning, right ?



Yes it does, wether you like it or not.

Theory are not analysis, they can be wrong. only the author is god of his story. And Morj, like I said, has good analysing skills.

Please, link me that post, because there are lots of pages that I haven't checked since I last entered the forum earlier today.

 

[RoronoaZorro]

I only take the story into account and the mini series, the pages on the side don't mean squat.

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It mean that you have a good instinct on storytelling

That's from Oda. You can't ignore that. He is the basis of every OP arguments.