One Piece Episode 925 - Dashing! The Righteous O-Soba Mask!

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It's more regarding the actual fighting it's self, will there be more time spent fighting or will toei spend more time with dialogue
The traction this episode got was mainly salty Sanji fans.

No one is actually discussing iow good the fight is. I mean it's good but you can't get 40 pages of discussion on this forum without it being majority fanboy salt

With Zoro vs Killer its obviously gonna be a spectacle since whoever is in chage of Zoro's sword fights in this arc is working at top game. Also in the manga there's a time lapse of some sort so the manga itself creates a window of time where as much filler as possible can be added
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
But I thought people loved the fuller in the Sanji vs page one fight?

The anime actually made Sanji look stronger since the manga he FAILED to clash with page one in actual strength even once.

The anime has his kicking back page one's attacks yet in the manga he literally failed to even match up with page one.

The is very different from the zoro vs Killer fight since the two did end up matching up a few times and Zoro was blocking killer's named attacks and there was even a time lapse in the fight somewhere with them just clashing. Then Gyukimaru interrupted.

As far as I can tell, the anime has been only cares about making fights more EVEN.

Like on both sides all they Care about is making them even. Luffy looks more even against kaido. Hawkins looks more even against Zoro. Sanji looks more even against Page one. Batman is literally matching up against both luffy and zoro.

But the killer fight was actually more even the manga than you remember since Zoro was nerfed by hunger through out it... The ending of course was killer getting washed but there's enough back and forth even in the manga to drag it out in the anime
You thought people loved it? Did you look through even the 1st page of this thread lol? Certainly you aren't talking about people in this thread.

I don't know why this is so hard to understand, let me come at it with another angle then. Let's say Zoro vs Kamazou happens, and Zoro's stomach is not highlighted one bit, no sound, nothing, downright ignored. The team doesn't think much of it. That changes the narrative for tons of people. Does that satisfy your "fights being more EVEN" rule, + outcome being the same?

Just for reference, in this episode they removed a scene where shop owners threw a rock at Sanji.
 
The traction this episode got was mainly salty Sanji fans.

No one is actually discussing iow good the fight is. I mean it's good but you can't get 40 pages of discussion on this forum without it being majority fanboy salt

With Zoro vs Killer its obviously gonna be a spectacle since whoever is in chage of Zoro's sword fights in this arc is working at top game. Also in the manga there's a time lapse of some sort so the manga itself creates a window of time where as much filler as possible can be added
I agree, the Zoro Hawkins fight got super extended in the anime, i believe they will do the same in this fight as well.
 
You thought people loved it? Did you look through even the 1st page of this thread lol? Certainly you aren't talking about people in this thread.

I don't know why this is so hard to understand, let me come at it with another angle then. Let's say Zoro vs Kamazou happens, and Zoro's stomach is not highlighted one bit, no sound, nothing, downright ignored. The team doesn't think much of it. That changes the narrative for tons of people. Does that satisfy your "fights being more EVEN" rule, + outcome being the same?

Just for reference, in this episode they removed a scene where shop owners threw a rock at Sanji.
yep really the fight was too short in the manga ,
-sanji put on the RS

-page one attack sanji evade
-sanji attack page one fall back then transform to hybrid
-page one attack sanji get thrown away
-sanji attack ~

its only 4 clash between the 2

https://www.mangasail.co/node/299245
 
You thought people loved it? Did you look through even the 1st page of this thread lol? Certainly you aren't talking about people in this thread.

I don't know why this is so hard to understand, let me come at it with another angle then. Let's say Zoro vs Kamazou happens, and Zoro's stomach is not highlighted one bit, no sound, nothing, downright ignored. The team doesn't think much of it. That changes the narrative for tons of people. Does that satisfy your "fights being more EVEN" rule, + outcome being the same?

Just for reference, in this episode they removed a scene where shop owners threw a rock at Sanji.
When I said people liked the filler I meant Sanji fans liked the fact that Sanji was more of match in strength to Page one than in the manga.

Like of course Sanji running away is completely not canon and maybe its page one fans (if they exist) who dont like how more even the fight is.

Point being that anime wants to show off its animation talents. They can't do that without the fights being more even.

This is the sole reason Luffy's elephant t gun looked like nuclear bomb had gone off on Kaido's head. It's all in the service of good animation.

Of course the anime fucks up context a lot like Kaido was supposed the speed blitz luffy but that's when actual canon material comes in to shut that shit down.

If the anime team ignores the nerfs on Zoro somehow yet they were no ambiguous at all like how the resolution of Sanji vs page one is obviously ambiguous then they would've fucked up of course.

I mean the Killer vs Zoro fight literally begins with Zoro asking Hiyori for food so if the anime removes even that scene of Zoro asking for food then they would've reached a level of incomprehension that I can't imagine.

For now they haven't don't anything that egregious so I won't expect it. Even the Sanji running away bit isn't as ridiculous as that
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
When I said people liked the filler I meant Sanji fans liked the fact that Sanji was more of match in strength to Page one than in the manga.
Running wasn't the only complaint, don't know what you were reading, half the complaints were how easily Page 1 was tanking Sanji's blows without visible damage, Sanji landed and threw way more blows than in the manga.

For now they haven't don't anything that egregious so I won't expect it.
They changed Zoro's basic slash that had Hodi messed up, into arguably his most lethal and potent slash, Lion's song.

They completely changed Akainu vs WB, making Akainu look like he was pissing his pants, with WB treating him like a ragdoll, brushing his attacks off like nothing.

The list can go on forever.

Removing a small panel of a stomach making noise, would hardly be the most groundbreaking change the anime has ever done amidst a battle. Are you new to the anime or is this a new director trust going on (despite Kaidou vs Luffy clearly veering)?

Of course the anime fucks up context a lot like Kaido was supposed the speed blitz luffy but that's when actual canon material comes in to shut that shit down.
Hence "Anime is canon" is a dangerous path. Period.

I still don't see what your point is here, if you're not telling me that calling the anime canon is safe, then what are you going back and forth about? That's all my point ever was.
 
The traction this episode got was mainly salty Sanji fans.

No one is actually discussing iow good the fight is. I mean it's good but you can't get 40 pages of discussion on this forum without it being majority fanboy salt

With Zoro vs Killer its obviously gonna be a spectacle since whoever is in chage of Zoro's sword fights in this arc is working at top game. Also in the manga there's a time lapse of some sort so the manga itself creates a window of time where as much filler as possible can be added
Actually more toxic Zoro fans than salty Sanji Fans looking at posts and Zoro now corner themselves by pushing they believe anime canon more. So when comes to judging anime fights you guys got be prepared on what you said here.
 
This didn't happen though. Batman just shot arrows at Zoro for a while then luffy tried to punch Batman and he repelled him

Where are you getting this random shit?
Zoro couldn't long distance attack him and need Haki to cut regular bows? That overexcessive and unnecessary there. Plus fodder like that pushing back Luffy and keep Zoro busy with regular bows without going down hurt portrayal of both there.
 

TheAncientCenturion

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One of the downsides of being constantly engaged in an online forum, and picking one character/side to be religiously obsessed with. I'm enjoying the jokes can't lie, but people can't appreciate a good episode anymore. Half these dudes reading chaps and watching eps biting their nails letting the "opposing" fanbase live rent free in their heads. More worried about how others might use a certain panel vs what it actually contributes to the story.

Watch the same thing happen in the manga if Sanji somehow doesn't fight Queen, despite how well written his other battle can potentially be, people will be crying about something they solidified in their heads, like it's written in stone with Oda's confirmation.

Btw correct me if I'm wrong but you're usually ontop of this kinda stuff, so who animated the transformation scene, was it Shida? It's honestly competing with the Snakeman transformation, smooth af.
The music is what really got me. It felt like classic Naruto with the almost folk-y Japanese soundtrack going on in the background. The fighting animation was pretty good too, very smooth and the hand to hand was great to watch. Not saying much, but better than any fight that's come from Wano so far (all two or three of them lol).

I def. can understand some of the annoyance (that's obviously overplayed) by Sanji fans. Toei made him look like a fool, wanting to protect people by using the Raid Suit to quickly finish off Page1, but ultimately can't even do that. But it's the anime at the end of the day, it's notorious for being pretty bad. Don't think anyone took the episode to heart.
 
You thought people loved it? Did you look through even the 1st page of this thread lol? Certainly you aren't talking about people in this thread.

I don't know why this is so hard to understand, let me come at it with another angle then. Let's say Zoro vs Kamazou happens, and Zoro's stomach is not highlighted one bit, no sound, nothing, downright ignored. The team doesn't think much of it. That changes the narrative for tons of people. Does that satisfy your "fights being more EVEN" rule, + outcome being the same?

Just for reference, in this episode they removed a scene where shop owners threw a rock at Sanji.
Nah i think he really talking bout the sanji fans that wanted to see some filler with the raid suit after that chapter drop
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
The music is what really got me. It felt like classic Naruto with the almost folk-y Japanese soundtrack going on in the background. The fighting animation was pretty good too, very smooth and the hand to hand was great to watch. Not saying much, but better than any fight that's come from Wano so far (all two or three of them lol).
Have you watched the first Wano ep? The one where Zoro was committing suicide. Go watch that one if you haven't, had the same music, tone was amazing throughout the episode, colours, voice acting, camera work. This ep somewhat reminded me of that at times, was expecting Wano to keep that consistency (pacing wasn't great but that was understandable given they don't opt for a filler arc despite being so close to the manga), but it clearly didn't.

I def. can understand some of the annoyance (that's obviously overplayed) by Sanji fans. Toei made him look like a fool, wanting to protect people by using the Raid Suit to quickly finish off Page1, but ultimately can't even do that. But it's the anime at the end of the day, it's notorious for being pretty bad. Don't think anyone took the episode to heart.
Well yea there was def some nonsense involved especially at the end, but I'm glad we moved past the microsoft powerpoint level fights, and you got people in a rage despite quite possibly getting the best animated Sanji fight ever, if not in a long ass time.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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Have you watched the first Wano ep? The one where Zoro was committing suicide. Go watch that one if you haven't, had the same music, tone was amazing throughout the episode, colours, voice acting, camera work. This ep somewhat reminded me of that at times, was expecting Wano to keep that consistency (pacing wasn't great but that was understandable given they don't opt for a filler arc despite being so close to the manga), but it clearly didn't.
I saw the gifs lmao. They were everywhere a Zoro fan was. Didn't watch the episode though, I mostly catch One Piece through youtube bits way after they've aired. But that's dope, the music is honestly key. That sets the vibe so much, if you replaced the Page1 fight with something more typical for One Piece, like those orchestral notes, I wouldn't be as invested.

Well yea there was def some nonsense involved especially at the end, but I'm glad we moved past the microsoft powerpoint level fights, and you got people in a rage despite quite possibly getting the best animated Sanji fight ever, if not in a long ass time.
It's one of the worst aspects about Wano. The abbreviated fights and constant clashes aren't entertaining. It's just a tease. The fight itself didn't bug me at all, Page1 eating hits was expected. I just think they should've ended it better, with Sanji taking out Page1 or leaving it purposefully ambiguous like the manga.
 
I saw the gifs lmao. They were everywhere a Zoro fan was. Didn't watch the episode though, I mostly catch One Piece through youtube bits way after they've aired. But that's dope, the music is honestly key. That sets the vibe so much, if you replaced the Page1 fight with something more typical for One Piece, like those orchestral notes, I wouldn't be as invested.


It's one of the worst aspects about Wano. The abbreviated fights and constant clashes aren't entertaining. It's just a tease. The fight itself didn't bug me at all, Page1 eating hits was expected. I just think they should've ended it better, with Sanji taking out Page1 or leaving it purposefully ambiguous like the manga.
They been doing issues in fight since look at fight between Batman vs Luffy and Zoro? They honestly couldn't do much to in the anime. They make him more threat than he needed to be. I get wanting to add more extension to the fight, but some stuff is questionable on why they put that scene Batman being stronger than he is in manga which doesn't make sense as Oda didn't hype him as one of major forces to be strong like that.

End of the day, we just really need to take anime just how it is. If it's not truly covering something panel to panel, then it's non-canon even if they adding in stuff. Unless Oda push it as canon and allowed it, we should take going for with grain of salt on stuff coming in later.
 
Moe and rest of candy worshippers have no one to blame other than themselves. Jumping to wrong conclusions and hyping Sanji based on something he didnt do is no one's fault except their own.
There was never any hope that Sanji disposed of P1, his location was reported before the fight started and Drake and Hawkins were just around the block.

Sanji is not Zoro who can end the fight in a blink of the eye, I have no idea why you expect that from Sanji after seeing that two clean hits due to cheap shots left no damage on Page1. The best you could have hoped for was that hit from the sky would knock him unconscious since it was a cheap shot as well...

Sanji is stronger than Zoro tho, he disposed of a flying six member easily, no one is a challenge for him except Calamities, not just any Calamity but the swordsman Calamity. Sanji vs King, the sky battle of the century here we come! Oh wait...
That's what fanbases do... Zoro fans now days are stating that he could use Adv. CoA and CoO before TS, WSS=PK and whatnot without any shred of proof. So you can't blame them for jumping to conclusions, atleast this was strongly hinted in the manga.
 
Running wasn't the only complaint, don't know what you were reading, half the complaints were how easily Page 1 was tanking Sanji's blows without visible damage, Sanji landed and threw way more blows than in the manga.

They changed Zoro's basic slash that had Hodi messed up, into arguably his most lethal and potent slash, Lion's song.
Again, Sanji did NO VISIBLE DAMAGE in the manga as well. And like I said, in the manga Sanji could not stop Page one's attacks with his kicks since he couldn't match him in strength yet he was doing so in tha anime. Once again it seems the anime gave Sanji feats that he didn't have in the manga just to make him appear more even to page one.

I have no idea what youre talking about with Zoro and Hody
 
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