Powers & Abilities So does everyone agree Enma not a power up now.

[ImmaIvanoM]

told you I dont know how it's work.

The manga already told us how it works. It takes Zoro's power when he doesn't want it to take it.

That's all it does.

You are just choosing to ignore that that's all it does

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

You answered this to this :
The first ittoryu with Shusui was against Monet.

Have you look the chapter ? Where do you see Zoro using Shusui ? Please show me ?

So you are saying that Zoro can use Shishi sonson witH the sword in his mouth.

Then answer what does "lai" mean in Santoryu Lai: Shishi sonson

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

never talked about Wado.
How do you know things about Wado Power ?
She is a part of Zoro like gomu gomu no mi for Luffy.

Ah so Wado Ichimonji is equal to Enma now but Shusui isn't equal to Enma?

 

[Finalbeta]

Shusui > Rest

All of the same grade with Shusui having Ryuma's haki imprinted on

 

[Zenos7]

I dont care about how it works

I dont try to explain how it works

If it was just CoA none of SH will have notice it.

It's stated excessive Ryuoou more powerful strikes

so much talking out of your ass to eventually essentially agreeing that enma just forces zoro to use more haki/ryuou than he intends to use lmfao.

 

[Zenos7]

The manga already told us how it works. It takes Zoro's power when he doesn't want it to take it.

That's all it does.

You are just choosing to ignore that that's all it does

 

[M944]

The manga already told us how it works. It takes Zoro's power when he doesn't want it to take it.

That's all it does.

You are just choosing to ignore that that's all it does

Like you ignore every things I said.
Why do you act like you know everything about CoA ?
Just answer : -Why Enma is so different of Shusui or Sandai ? I mean he needed to be use to those swords right ? Thats mean they are also training tool ?
-Have you ever seen a training tool more hyped than the actual training ?
They have two panel of zoro getting used to Enma and at least 10x more just to hype Emma. Moreover those two panels are focused to talk about an other future PowerUp.
Just compare to every training SH did get thats nothing for a training who is here to fight a Younko and his crew in a War.
Or compare it to Seastone cuffs Luffy gets they didn't get such staging but they are also training tool ?

so much talking out of your ass to eventually essentially agreeing that enma just forces zoro to use more haki/ryuou than he intends to use lmfao

You all act like you know every thing about CoA.
So pleass explain those stuff after I will answer to your questions.
-Why Enma is so different of Shusui or Sandai ? I mean he needed to be use to those swords right ? Thats mean they are also training tool ?
-Have you ever seen a training tool more hyped than the actual training ?
They have two panel of zoro getting used to Enma and at least 10x more just to hype Emma. Moreover those two panels are focused to talk about an other future PowerUp.
Just compare to every training SH did get thats nothing for a training who is here to fight a Younko and his crew in a War.
Or compare it to Seastone cuffs Luffy gets they didn't get such staging but they are also training tool ?

Also we call that a training but Zoro only said get use to this sword. By the way Hitetsu said this "training" was easier for Zoro since he have Wado.
Explain me how posses a sword help you to manage well your CoA with an other sword ?

Explain me this mechanics. You seems to know everything about CoA.

What I know is the staging with Enma doesn't let any doubt about him being a training tool or a powerup in himself.
I just use shonen codes. Codes that Oda has always use and continue to use. If you can prove Enma is the exception in all shonen or they have others exceptions you are welcome.

Just to go further :
-Why Enma is so different of Shusui or Sandai ? I mean he needed to be use to those swords right ? Thats mean they are also training tool ?
-Have you ever seen a training tool more hyped than the actual training ?
They have two panel of zoro getting used to Enma and at least 10x more just to hype Emma. Moreover those two panels are focused to talk about an other future PowerUp.
Just compare to every training SH did get thats nothing for a training who is here to fight a Younko and his crew in a War.
Or compare it to Seastone cuffs Luffy gets they didn't get such staging but they are also training

Ah so Wado Ichimonji is equal to Enma now but Shusui isn't equal to Enma?

Where did I said that. Stop this. Do you know something about Wado ?
Me I dont.


AGAIN ANSWER TO ALL THOSE QUESTIONS and STOP AVOIDING THEM and after I will answer to your questions about Enma.
Maybe we could find the true nature of Enma.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

AGAIN ANSWER TO ALL THOSE QUESTIONS and STOP AVOIDING THEM

I'm done. You basically said you don't care what the manga said so i no longer care about what you say.

 

[M944]

I'm done. You basically said you don't care what the manga said so i no longer care about what you say.

I dont care about how it works. I dont try to explain it.
This is what I said. Why you dont put my sentence in his context.

You are really good to twist People words and avoid simple questions.
However when I ask you something you just avoid it.
2 days i'm waiting you to answer to easy questions.

I will answer to your question on the mechanics but answer to my questions.
Seems to be a great deal. But you can do what you are the best for "avoid to answer simple questions".

 

[nik87]

I dont care about how it works. I dont try to explain it.
This is what I said. Why you dont put my sentence in his context.

You are really good to twist People words and avoid simple questions.
However when I ask you something you just avoid it.
2 days i'm waiting you to answer to easy questions.

I will answer to your question on the mechanics but answer to my questions.
Seems to be a great deal. But you can do what you are the best for "avoid to answer simple questions".

I will answer your questions. Ask them.

 

[M944]

I will answer your questions. Ask them.

Just answer : -Why Enma is so different of Shusui or Sandai ? I mean he needed to be use to those swords right ? Thats mean they are also training tool ?
-Have you ever seen a training tool more hyped than the actual training ?
They have two panel of zoro getting used to Enma and at least 10x more just to hype Emma. Moreover those two panels are focused to talk about an other future PowerUp.
Just compare to every training SH did get thats nothing for a training who is here to fight a Younko and his crew in a War.
Or compare it to Seastone cuffs Luffy gets they didn't get such staging but they are

And

Why Enma is so different of Shusui or Sandai ? I mean he needed to be use to those swords right ? Thats mean they are also training tool ?
-Have you ever seen a training tool more hyped than the actual training ?
They have two panel of zoro getting used to Enma and at least 10x more just to hype Emma. Moreover those two panels are focused to talk about an other future PowerUp.
Just compare to every training SH did get thats nothing for a training who is here to fight a Younko and his crew in a War.
Or compare it to Seastone cuffs Luffy gets they didn't get such staging but they are also training tool ?

Also we call that a training but Zoro only said get use to this sword. By the way Hitetsu said this "training" was easier for Zoro since he have Wado.
Explain me how posses a sword help you to manage well your CoA with an other sword ?

 

[Vlad D. Impaler]

And

Why Enma is so different of Shusui or Sandai ? I mean he needed to be use to those swords right ? Thats mean they are also training tool ?
-Have you ever seen a training tool more hyped than the actual training ?
They have two panel of zoro getting used to Enma and at least 10x more just to hype Emma. Moreover those two panels are focused to talk about an other future PowerUp.
Just compare to every training SH did get thats nothing for a training who is here to fight a Younko and his crew in a War.
Or compare it to Seastone cuffs Luffy gets they didn't get such staging but they are also training tool ?

Also we call that a training but Zoro only said get use to this sword. By the way Hitetsu said this "training" was easier for Zoro since he have Wado.
Explain me how posses a sword help you to manage well your CoA with an other sword ?

True that, Enma was hyped in the same way Sanji's Raid Suit or Nami's Clima-Tact is hyped... If it's just some other sword, why was it extravaganty and intensively built up?? No other weapon got that treatment so far, it goes to show that the sword is special and a PU.

 

[M944]

True that, Enma was hyped in the same way Sanji's Raid Suit or Nami's Clima-Tact is hyped... If it's just some other sword, why was it extravaganty and intensively built up?? No other weapon got that treatment so far, it goes to show that the sword is special and a PU.

It's not the worse part. The training gets only two panels. Those panels are shared with a conversation about Black blades.
People act like this training is so important while gave it Just two panels. I mean even Enma's name in chapter 953 have more place That's crazy.

 

[Vlad D. Impaler]

It's not the worse part. The training gets only two panels. Those panels are shared with a conversation about Black blades.
People act like this training is so important while gave it Just two panels. I mean even Enma's name in chapter 953 have more place That's crazy.

True that 😄😄

 

[nik87]

Sanji fans are more fragile than Sanji's leg. Look how one Anime episode massacred their confidence...
Seriously, grow up...

 

[HA001]

Nah, Sanji didn't knew her age. Zoro knew age of who he sleeping with and still did. Get Zoro's creepy ass away from here.

Excuses. Sanji was happy to marry a child.

 

[Zenos7]

You all act like you know every thing about CoA.
So pleass explain those stuff after I will answer to your questions.
-Why Enma is so different of Shusui or Sandai ? I mean he needed to be use to those swords right ? Thats mean they are also training tool ?

sandai is cursed, which is why zoro needed to get used to it. shusuis deal was being a black blade and having more power output.

enma is different in a way that it forces the users haki into the attacks if you are not accustomed to the blade, which is why zoro trained with it

Have you ever seen a training tool more hyped than the actual training ?

i dont see how this is relevant in any way


and the result of the training is whats hyped

They have two panel of zoro getting used to Enma and at least 10x more just to hype Emma. Moreover those two panels are focused to talk about an other future PowerUp.
Just compare to every training SH did get thats nothing for a training who is here to fight a Younko and his crew in a War.
Or compare it to Seastone cuffs Luffy gets they didn't get such

there is no question here

Also we call that a training but Zoro only said get use to this sword. By the way Hitetsu said this "training" was easier for Zoro since he have Wado.
Explain me how posses a sword help you to manage well your CoA with an other sword ?

Explain me this mechanics. You seems to know everything about CoA.

hitetsu already said why wado works, because its from the same blacksmith. you might actually want to read the manga

 

[True God Moe]

Excuses. Sanji was happy to marry a child.

Again, Sanji didn't know her age and not really age gap much compare to Zoro sleeping and being founded with an small little girl named Toko. Think if Yasu came in to see that. That just plain .

 

[M944]

sandai is cursed, which is why zoro needed to get used to it. shusuis deal was being a black blade and having more power output.

enma is different in a way that it forces the users haki into the attacks if you are not accustomed to the blade, which is why zoro trained with it

You agree those are PowerUp ?

i dont see how this is relevant in any way


and the result of the training is whats hyped

You dont see why the staging is important in a story ? Is it a joke ?
Explain why Enma staging is way better than the training one ?

The results of training hyped ?

The training gets only two panels. Those panels are shared with a conversation about Black blades.
People act like this training is so important while gave it Just two panels. I mean even Enma's name in chapter 953 have more place That's crazy.

there is no question here

Why this training hasn't the same built-up as all others training ?
Why the training tool is more hyped than the actual training ?

hitetsu already said why wado works, because its from the same blacksmith. you might actually want to read the manga

And Why having two swords from the same blacksmiths help you to manage you CoA better ?
Explain this mechanics ?

 

[nik87]

Why Enma is so different of Shusui or Sandai ? I mean he needed to be use to those swords right ? Thats mean they are also training tool ?
-Have you ever seen a training tool more hyped than the actual training ?
They have two panel of zoro getting used to Enma and at least 10x more just to hype Emma. Moreover those two panels are focused to talk about an other future PowerUp.
Just compare to every training SH did get thats nothing for a training who is here to fight a Younko and his crew in a War.
Or compare it to Seastone cuffs Luffy gets they didn't get such staging but they are also training tool ?
Also we call that a training but Zoro only said get use to this sword. By the way Hitetsu said this "training" was easier for Zoro since he have Wado.
Explain me how posses a sword help you to manage well your CoA with an other sword ?

Ok, i'll try to paint a simple picture for you.
Every sword that Zoro gets receives a moment of hype, something about it gets highlighted and Zoro needs to get used to it to bring it under control so it can behave how Zoro demands. Once those introduction hype moments are over, it never gets brought up again.

Not sure what do you mean with Why Enma is so different compared to Shusui and Sandai. It is different compared to Sandai that it is higher grade and it is different compared to Shusui that it is not a Kokuto, which means lower hardness grade despite the same ranking.
Both Shusui and Sandai had their own introduction hype gimmicks, just like Enma. Shusui was a heavy blade and was creating a larger slash by absorbing other slashes. Sandai is incredibly sharp and was cutting more than Zoro intended.

Enma is a better training tool than other swords but that is where Enma's hype ends. Once used to it, you can discard it and you lose nothing. Enma itself is not a power-up, it is a power-down, a liability for everyone who isnt used to it. It drains the user of his Haki way too fast and nobody wants that. When you get used to it, it is just a regular sword, no different to Ame no Habakiri.

Yes, Enma is a training tool and it can be discarded now since Zoro already got used to it and it no longer offers him anything.
Hitetsu said that Zoro is familiar to Enma because of Wado. That means that Wado probably has a gimmick too, one which we dont know of and that could be a reason why Zoro's haki mastery is good.
Did I satisfy your curiosity?