Chrollo vs Ging

#61
Ging is in the top 5 nen users in the world and the dude has all his main abilities hidden, he only used amped version of the other nen users so far.
It does not matter how many second rate abilities Chrollo will use at the end of the day he is getting low diffed by Ging.
Lets not pretend that Chrollo wont be around Top 5...hes atleast Top 10.
 
#65
His ability is the ability to use the abiltiies in his book. Nobody knows all the Hatsus in his book. He has more unknown abilities than Ging.
Dude is hailed as top 5 nen masters with only what he showed so far.
Let me explain here what this top 5 contains potentially
1 gings father who is chilling in the dark continent, confirmed alive by the hunter association somehow.
2 Neteros son, hinted at being stronger than PRIME netero
3 Ging, master of the battlefield, iq like gods, never needed to activate his main abilities in the company of the zodiacs, strongest zodiac also.
Do you understand the quality of these fighters, they are godlike.
Chrollo will evolve in the dark continent, he is probably the only one making it alive from his troupe anyway.
 
#66
what does Chrollo have over Ging? Portrayal suggest Ging is both one of the smartest and strongest characters in the series
Strategy and ability to cohesively combine random Hatsu abilities with each other. Ging could also possibly do that but Chrollo atleast has shown it.
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Dude is hailed as top 5 nen masters with only what he showed so far.
Let me explain here what this top 5 contains potentially
1 gings father who is chilling in the dark continent, confirmed alive by the hunter association somehow.
2 Neteros son, hinted at being stronger than PRIME netero
3 Ging, master of the battlefield, iq like gods, never needed to activate his main abilities in the company of the zodiacs, strongest zodiac also.
Do you understand the quality of these fighters, they are godlike.
Chrollo will evolve in the dark continent, he is probably the only one making it alive from his troupe anyway.
- Don is 300 years old. Its unlikely for him to be alive and hes cetainly not Ging's father. Ancestor perhaps. Either way nobody has proof hes alive....thus he wouldnt be in Top 5 Nen users.
- Sure Beyond could be top 5
- Ging as well..

Thats what....2 ? Got anybody else ?

Chrollo literally negged Hisoka. Thats a crazy fricking feat. Sure him being able to neg someone that strong depends on intel and prep time...but still an insane feat. He also survived two grown Zoldycks assasins without intel, prep or bloodlust. He never tried against the Zoldycks and they still couldnt kill him. Thats another insane feat.
 
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Strategy and ability to cohesively combine random Hatsu abilities with each other. Ging could also possibly do that but Chrollo atleast has shown it.
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- Don is 300 years old. Its unlikely for him to be alive and hes cetainly not Ging's father. Ancestor perhaps. Either way nobody has proof hes alive....thus he wouldnt be in Top 5 Nen users.
- Sure Beyond could be top 5
- Ging as well..

Thats what....2 ? Got anybody else ?

Chrollo literally negged Hisoka. Thats a crazy fricking feat. Sure him being able to neg someone that strong depends on intel and prep time...but still an insane feat. He also survived two grown Zoldycks assasins without intel, prep or bloodlust. He never tried against the Zoldycks and they still couldnt kill him. Thats another insane feat.
Chrollo negged trolling Hisoka and then got negged by Kurapica.
Beyond and Ging are different types of beasts. Don Freecss could be alive also, Ging hinted at that, saying that Don is probably still writing his novels in the dark continent.
``He never tried against the Zoldycks and they still couldnt kill him.``- what is this agenda? Yeah chrollo never tried but so did the zoldycks members, chrollo himself confirmed that he wants to fight the grandpa solo in a serious 1v1.
Immo I dont get the feeling that Chrollo is even close to the top nen users in this series, I think that a Kurapica level fighter wont be able to neg diff people on that level, it would be comical, if this was the case.
 
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Chrollo negged trolling Hisoka and then got negged by Kurapica.
Beyond and Ging are different types of beasts. Don Freecss could be alive also, Ging hinted at that, saying that Don is probably still writing his novels in the dark continent.
``He never tried against the Zoldycks and they still couldnt kill him.``- what is this agenda? Yeah chrollo never tried but so did the zoldycks members, chrollo himself confirmed that he wants to fight the grandpa solo in a serious 1v1.
Immo I dont get the feeling that Chrollo is even close to the top nen users in this series, I think that a Kurapica level fighter wont be able to neg diff people on that level, it would be comical, if this was the case.
Trolling Hisoka ? You're saying Hisoka was trolling in their fight...And Kurapika ? What are you talking about.

Yh and again Don wont be considered top 5...cause nobody knows if hes alive.

They did tho. Zeno claimed twice that Silva should try to kill him if it means killing Chrollo. They both were aiming to kill him. Whilst Chrollo was barely defending....let alone fighting back.

Theres no such thing as a Kurapika lvl fighter. Kurapika is an inconsistent self destructive fighter who trades his lifespan for power. He then creates another restriction to use his strongest ability on only one group of people. His PL changes dependant on the people hes fighting.

Kurapika against Chrollo would be lvl 100
Kurapika against Ging would be lvl 40

Why ?.....because Chain Jail is his most hax ability and he can only use it on the PT. Remove chain jail from Kurapika's aresnal and Chrollo neg diffs him with no prep needed. Heck Uvogin destroys him mid diff to.
 
#69
Trolling Hisoka ? You're saying Hisoka was trolling in their fight...And Kurapika ? What are you talking about.

Yh and again Don wont be considered top 5...cause nobody knows if hes alive.

They did tho. Zeno claimed twice that Silva should try to kill him if it means killing Chrollo. They both were aiming to kill him. Whilst Chrollo was barely defending....let alone fighting back.

Theres no such thing as a Kurapika lvl fighter. Kurapika is an inconsistent self destructive fighter who trades his lifespan for power. He then creates another restriction to use his strongest ability on only one group of people. His PL changes dependant on the people hes fighting.

Kurapika against Chrollo would be lvl 100
Kurapika against Ging would be lvl 40

Why ?.....because Chain Jail is his most hax ability and he can only use it on the PT. Remove chain jail from Kurapika's aresnal and Chrollo neg diffs him with no prep needed. Heck Uvogin destroys him mid diff to.
Lets agree to disagree, Chrollo is not at the level of Ging and Beyond
Prime Netero would no diff Meruem*according to Netero it wouldnt even be a fight.
Ging is on that Beyond level more or less.
Chrollo? Chrollo is yet to become stronger, beating hisoka after planing everything to defeat him(aka the Kurapika situation) its not an impresive feat for me, Kurapika did the same vs Chrollo.
And the zoldicks situation was described pretty well, Chrollo himself admitted that he can fight only one at a time in a serious fight, and then talked with the elder for a serious 1v1.
 
#70
Lets agree to disagree, Chrollo is not at the level of Ging and Beyond
Prime Netero would no diff Meruem*according to Netero it wouldnt even be a fight.
Ging is on that Beyond level more or less.
Chrollo? Chrollo is yet to become stronger, beating hisoka after planing everything to defeat him(aka the Kurapika situation) its not an impresive feat for me, Kurapika did the same vs Chrollo.
I have no clue where you got Prime Netero no diffs Mereum. Its not stated anywhere Its literally impossible to no diff Mereum....even Pre Rose Meteum. Prime Netero still gets his ass beat from Mereum. Remeber Mereum was restricting himself to snatching limbs. He couldve decapitated him the first chance he got....instead of taking his leg.

Kurapika only did because his specific ability worked only on the PT. Chrollo's Hatsus work on anyone. That specific restraint on Kurapika's power and also the lifespan restaint....is what makes him so powerful. If he didnt make such self-destructive restaints....Chrollo bodies him. Heck if Kurapika just lost Chain Jail against Chrollo( since its an ability that only works on 7-8 people in the entire Nen population)....Chrollo negs him.
 
#71
I have no clue where you got Prime Netero no diffs Mereum. Its not stated anywhere Its literally impossible to no diff Mereum....even Pre Rose Meteum. Prime Netero still gets his ass beat from Mereum. Remeber Mereum was restricting himself to snatching limbs. He couldve decapitated him the first chance he got....instead of taking his leg.

Kurapika only did because his specific ability worked only on the PT. Chrollo's Hatsus work on anyone. That specific restraint on Kurapika's power and also the lifespan restaint....is what makes him so powerful. If he didnt make such self-destructive restaints....Chrollo bodies him. Heck if Kurapika just lost Chain Jail against Chrollo( since its an ability that only works on 7-8 people in the entire Nen population)....Chrollo negs him.
Chrollo is Kurapika level fighter at best, he isnt lasting long vs the big boys of the verse, he has to much to learn in the nen verse, his chances to survives in the dark continent are close to 0. Beyond will own tho.
Chrollo isnt even beating the guards of Meruem let alone fking with the top 5 nen masters in hxh. Beyond and Ging can scale from the weakest top 5 to strongest(if Don is alive, he is gonna be the nr 1 human nen master probably, unless Ging and Beyond are just that good).
Ging is a living legend, Chrollo is a high tier thief.
If they fight it would be a stomp, Ging wont even use his main arsenal(who you could assume already that it will be broken).
 
#72
Chrollo is Kurapika level fighter at best, he isnt lasting long vs the big boys of the verse, he has to much to learn in the nen verse, his chances to survives in the dark continent are close to 0. Beyond will own tho.
Chrollo isnt even beating the guards of Meruem let alone fking with the top 5 nen masters in hxh. Beyond and Ging can scale from the weakest top 5 to strongest(if Don is alive, he is gonna be the nr 1 human nen master probably, unless Ging and Beyond are just that good).
Ging is a living legend, Chrollo is a high tier thief.
If they fight it would be a stomp, Ging wont even use his main arsenal(who you could assume already that it will be broken).
Wtf is a Kurapika lvl fighter. What even is that. Hisoka bodies Kurapika. Heck he beats him low-mid diff.

Everything else you said is baseless.
 
#74
Headcanon, actually top 5 nen users are weaker than Netero since he researches the ultimate fighter to give him the greatest fight of life, Netero is clearly above any human in HxH and he isn't on par with RGs let alone Meruem in terms of aura.

Meruem rapes any human not named Netero and it's not even a debate.

Nothing suggest he can use abilities from G.I outside the island but okay.

Mmm no, Netero was not even stated to be top 5 nen users. Being top means he is an extreme damn god fighter. As it was already stated that Nen hunters users use some sort of combat power.

And all the Zodiacs were chosen by Netero so he could spar with them all, his favorites were Pariston and Ging. So Netero indeed fought them all. Seeing how Hisoka rated them and was extremely interested on Ging, we can asume Ging is the strongest of all of them. Ging's information is top classified even between the top clasified archieves.

Netero literally said that Pitou was stronger than him, so he wasnt on their level, he might defeat them with extreme diff and seeng how Gon with full potential unleashed was able to defeaet Pitou, we can assume Gon was stronger than Netero.

Mereum raped Netero lol.

Believe me, Netero was not the strongest and not top 5.
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Dude is hailed as top 5 nen masters with only what he showed so far.
Let me explain here what this top 5 contains potentially
1 gings father who is chilling in the dark continent, confirmed alive by the hunter association somehow.
2 Neteros son, hinted at being stronger than PRIME netero
3 Ging, master of the battlefield, iq like gods, never needed to activate his main abilities in the company of the zodiacs, strongest zodiac also.
Do you understand the quality of these fighters, they are godlike.
Chrollo will evolve in the dark continent, he is probably the only one making it alive from his troupe anyway.
Yeah, so much screentime of Chrollo and he was never mentioned to be a top 5 or top 10. He had to make a god tier prep to defeat Hisoka, which is a great feat, yet still had to gain extra abilities from his troup to do so.

IMO, the top 5 nen users has not been even presented and maybe just Beyond Netero is part of this top 5. And Ging's grandpa is not even part of this top 5, no one knows if he is alive, it was just a theory of Ging.
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Trolling Hisoka ? You're saying Hisoka was trolling in their fight...And Kurapika ? What are you talking about.

Yh and again Don wont be considered top 5...cause nobody knows if hes alive.

They did tho. Zeno claimed twice that Silva should try to kill him if it means killing Chrollo. They both were aiming to kill him. Whilst Chrollo was barely defending....let alone fighting back.

Theres no such thing as a Kurapika lvl fighter. Kurapika is an inconsistent self destructive fighter who trades his lifespan for power. He then creates another restriction to use his strongest ability on only one group of people. His PL changes dependant on the people hes fighting.

Kurapika against Chrollo would be lvl 100
Kurapika against Ging would be lvl 40

Why ?.....because Chain Jail is his most hax ability and he can only use it on the PT. Remove chain jail from Kurapika's aresnal and Chrollo neg diffs him with no prep needed. Heck Uvogin destroys him mid diff to.
Kurapika indeed has the counter to the Spiders, yet still could capture Chrollo with a mere plan where he closed his eyes for a second. It was off guard indeed, but still.

And you are just wrong with his battle with the Zoldycs, Chrollo had to use a move to neg damage and was aiming to rob their abilities. He was not going for the kill, but was serious to to rob them.
 
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#75
Ging kicks his shit in anyone who says otherwise is tripping.
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Lets agree to disagree, Chrollo is not at the level of Ging and Beyond
Prime Netero would no diff Meruem*according to Netero it wouldnt even be a fight.
Ging is on that Beyond level more or less.
Chrollo? Chrollo is yet to become stronger, beating hisoka after planing everything to defeat him(aka the Kurapika situation) its not an impresive feat for me, Kurapika did the same vs Chrollo.
And the zoldicks situation was described pretty well, Chrollo himself admitted that he can fight only one at a time in a serious fight, and then talked with the elder for a serious 1v1.
While it wasn't explicitly stated I'm pretty fucking certain it can be extrapolated that Netero was included in the top 5.
 
#76
Mmm no, Netero was not even stated to be top 5 nen users. Being top means he is an extreme damn god fighter. As it was already stated that Nen hunters users use some sort of combat power.

And all the Zodiacs were chosen by Netero so he could spar with them all, his favorites were Pariston and Ging. So Netero indeed fought them all. Seeing how Hisoka rated them and was extremely interested on Ging, we can asume Ging is the strongest of all of them. Ging's information is top classified even between the top clasified archieves.

Netero literally said that Pitou was stronger than him, so he wasnt on their level, he might defeat them with extreme diff and seeng how Gon with full potential unleashed was able to defeaet Pitou, we can assume Gon was stronger than Netero.

Mereum raped Netero lol.

Believe me, Netero was not the strongest and not top 5.
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Yeah, so much screentime of Chrollo and he was never mentioned to be a top 5 or top 10. He had to make a god tier prep to defeat Hisoka, which is a great feat, yet still had to gain extra abilities from his troup to do so.

IMO, the top 5 nen users has not been even presented and maybe just Beyond Netero is part of this top 5. And Ging's grandpa is not even part of this top 5, no one knows if he is alive, it was just a theory of Ging.
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Kurapika indeed has the counter to the Spiders, yet still could capture Chrollo with a mere plan where he closed his eyes for a second. It was off guard indeed, but still.

And you are just wrong with his battle with the Zoldycs, Chrollo had to use a move to neg damage and was aiming to rob their abilities. He was not going for the kill, but was serious to to rob them.


Netero said himself he wanted to face the strongest opponent when he fought Meruem. There is no human who could face Netero in HxH outside adult Gon let alone 5, it wouldn't make sense cause Netero would have fight them. Zodiacs are just his favorites partners to spare with them, he didn't recognized them as great challenge lol.

Like I said before, Netero reseached the greatest opponent that is able to beat him, he never find him until Meruem appeared in KA arc which means no one can defeat Netero.

Old Netero stomps every human and that's a fact.

Gon has nothing to do with top 5 nen users and yes he's above Old Netero in aura. Each RGs is above Netero in aura but Kannon makes the fight very different.
 
#77
Netero said himself he wanted to face the strongest opponent when he fought Meruem. There is no human who could face Netero in HxH outside adult Gon let alone 5, it wouldn't make sense cause Netero would have fight them. Zodiacs are just his favorites partners to spare with them, he didn't recognized them as great challenge lol.

Like I said before, Netero reseached the greatest opponent that is able to beat him, he never find him until Meruem appeared in KA arc which means no one can defeat Netero.

Old Netero stomps every human and that's a fact.

Gon has nothing to do with top 5 nen users and yes he's above Old Netero in aura. Each RGs is above Netero in aura but Kannon makes the fight very different.
Nah Prime Maha is above Netero....so Netero has found someone stronger than him that he couldnt beat. But of course Maha isnt in his prime anymore.
 
#78
Nah Prime Maha is above Netero....so Netero has found someone stronger than him that he couldnt beat. But of course Maha isnt in his prime anymore.
At no point in story it was said that Maha was stronger, they clashed equally and moved on, heck you can say that Netero had the superior portrait, because Maha tried to kill him, but couldnt.
 
#79
At no point in story it was said that Maha was stronger, they clashed equally and moved on, heck you can say that Netero had the superior portrait, because Maha tried to kill him, but couldnt.
You can literally see the connotations by the way its stated...



Being able to survive Maha is an impressive feat for Netero.
 
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