Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1053 Spoilers Discussion

[MarineHQ]

3 admirals above Shanks ... sure ...

dude ... if you think Oda respects Green Bull more than Shanks I can't respect your opinion any more

Oda definitely respects him more than Bm though and he threw Kaido in a Lava pit and supposedly let him die in it which is kinda ehh

 

[Cross_Marian]

Show me Greenbull pls


I can’t wait until Thursday

 

[Best_Biscuits_5]

Well her was in Nerf State.

She still had her physical strength
Yonko's being hyped for their physical strength, yet, Big Meme did nothing of note with it

 

[Buusatan94]

Wasn't Luffy a week with Bandages after MF?

That's by far the longest he has been in bandages, and the injuries he substained should have kept him hospitalized for months at the very least, and he certainely wasn't in bandages for a week after Alabasta, Enies Lobby, Dressrosa WCI and here.

The only time a Straw Hat was truly out of commission and needed a while to recover from his wounds in a somehow realistic way was Zoro after his encounter with Kuma.

 

[Julius]

I feel betrayed, sanji bros, did y'all really think GB would be a fraud and that sanji would fight him for that reason?

No Sanji fan thinks that, besides @Jackteo

 

[blackjack]

Zoro had every bonein his body broken and Luffy literally died

nice try tho

The winners got BTFOd harder than the people they BTFOd......what? Someone explain that to me?

 

[Roo]

Katakuri would never get dogged down by an admiral offscreen like that, just saying

Worse, he’s getting dogged off screen by a YC1

 

[Ninjashadow0209]

Bro the admirals were there to win, not to measure dick sizes.
Kizaru was casually handling WB, you’d be a moron to think he couldn’t do the same to Larco

Him couldn't he even say that Marco scary.

Only Garp was the one to able to injure Marco.

Garp>Admirals.

 

[Geo]

I think with stating that Aramaki merely finished of "weakened" commanders (something we don't even know) you guys are undermining how much this chapter changes the power perception in Op and the community as a whole.

For years this stupid YC1 being anywhere close to an Admiral been thrown around which turned out to be an epic fail. A shit ton of arguments were run with that premise backing it up.

I think it should be clear now that any YC duo is no match for an Admiral and we aren't even talking about the guy that in canon stands above Ryokugyu

I think the issue stems from some people trying to divide top tiers into low, mid and high.

The fact is, a character is either a top tier or they are not. Top tiers are so closely matched that there isn't any level separating them.

What is surprising is how most are claiming that Greenbull defeating two Ycs is hype for admirals. It shows how much most underestimate Admirals.

Kaido and Big Mom as top tiers are able to defeat their entire crew. It is ridiculous to think that an admiral (who is a top tier) defeating 2 commanders is hype

 

[NAMELESS]

That's by far the longest he has been in bandages, and the injuries he substained should have kept him hospitalized for months at the very least, and he certainely wasn't in bandages for a week after Alabasta, Enies Lobby, Dressrosa WCI and here.

The only time a Straw Hat was truly out of commission and needed a while to recover from his wounds in a realistic way was Zoro after his encounter with Kuma.

He awakened a mythical devil fruit,his recovery should be off the charts now.What makes no sense is Zoro being up right now.

 

[comrade]

Clear cut case of Doffy being delusional. He's getting murked by a YC1 let alone two commanders or someone that beats two commanders. Overconfidence is a thing.

But even the overconfident Doffy understood that Kaido would murk him.

This chapter proves how the Yonkou title is not strength related

I mean, it was all these decades, because the Yonko happened to be the strongest too. Caramel said that Big Mom would be the strongest shield the Celestials could imagine, being (fleet) admiral in terms of ranks, and Kaido > Big Mom. And no, that doesn't mean "only if she received proper training and a top tier DF". Because Caramel assessed her power solely based on her performance. If she needed "proper training" and a "top tier DF" for that, it in turn would mean, that child admirals without a DF and training could already show (fleet) admiral potential. Also, her DF was top tier.

 

[MarineHQ]

Katakuri would never get dogged down by an admiral offscreen like that, just saying

You're right. Sentomaru is enough for him.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

This is Kaido and Big Mom's successor guys

 

[SkySanji]

So you basically create your own condition of what beating a character truly means like speedblitzing and everything else doesn't mean anything because it doesn't fit in your category of how you see a dominating performance?

This reeks off much bias. This hax shit doesn't mean anything. I could label all devil fruit users as hax users and talk their feats down. Once ability can't be downgraded as hax as it's literally their ability.

What's aramaki supposed to do. Beat King and Queen bare knuckle?

Not creating anything, I'm giving you an example of what complete dominance is, beating someone with cheap unavoidable hax isn't that.

Context matters a lot, and how he beat them is very important, not only was it off-screen which heavily hurts your argument, but we're explicitly told that he beat them by sucking out their nutrients, that isn't complete dominance by any stretch.

If he had brutalized them physically then yes, that would have been crazy and you could wank that as much as you like, but beating them with unavoidable bullshit hax isn't impressive, a fucking newborn with his devil fruit could arguably do the same.

 

[Best_Biscuits_5]

Greenbull now has the best feats of any Admiral outside of Akainu and maybe Aokiji lol

He's equal to Fujitora, so Fujitora gets the same level of hype
And Kizaru isn't that much far off

 

[Ninjashadow0209]

he has feats cool
but we didn't see that
any admiral
enough for marco
it's simple
king+Queen>marco
gb zero diff>King+Queen
any admiral low diff marco
in marine is was just a clash

Clash? Akainu couldn't pass trhough to get Luffy.

Kizaru with Help couldnt kill him even Marco woth Seastone Cuffs.

 

[LuffyTheGOAT]

He beats none of them

Mihawk fans really think he can beat an Admiral when he got stalled by YC3 Vista.

Meanwhile Greenbull here casually no diffing YC1 and YC2.

 

[IsaziSempi]

Kizaru vs Sanji is as credible as King vs sanji

Well I mean King hit Sanji and did no damage. He even nerfed himself and defeated Queen quite easily who is at the very least extremely close to king. Literally a Yonkou commander couldn't even see how fadt Sanji was moving. so thinking current Sanji couldnt beat King is kinda funny.

 

[Buusatan94]

He awakened a mythical devil fruit,his recovery should be off the charts now.What makes no sense is Zoro being up right now.

It didn't made any sense for Zoro to be even able of fighting during Arlong Park arc, or for him to ever get up during his fight against Mr. 1 after all the injuries Mr 1 gave him.

 

[Mansex]

Buggy as Yonko makes sense. Think about it, marine can capture him easily and say to the public that they imprisoned a Yonko. After they can't cover BM and Kaidos fall and the Nika thing anymore, WG needs a win to not loose face.