General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet
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I want a formal apology from you @dizzy2341 @CarrotForNakama @Carrota Guco @CarrotNakama @Berry Rich @Random_Kurozumi
and @HA001 for pussing out the way he did instead of taking the L
and @HA001 for pussing out the way he did instead of taking the L
Not shocked you didn't bother actually reading my point. He's fighting for these people specifically (Pedro who died for the cause, the other 3, 2 of which you didn't bother to respond to btw, he specifically promised to help).
Yes he knows about her situation, and? That has no bearing on the argument here. You're the one fucking coping my guy. Unlike carrot (which you mentionned in another comment), Yamato expressed her desire to join, AND it makes narrative sense with her connection to Ace and her (admittedly stupid and annoying) Oden Wank shtick. Your argument about Luffy knowing Yamato's story in no way contradicts what I said, because you don't actually have a proper rebuttal for it which is not surprising in the least.
Keep coping nerd, Tama will be happy in Wano, Larrot is in the mud and Yamato joins.
Yes he knows about her situation, and? That has no bearing on the argument here. You're the one fucking coping my guy. Unlike carrot (which you mentionned in another comment), Yamato expressed her desire to join, AND it makes narrative sense with her connection to Ace and her (admittedly stupid and annoying) Oden Wank shtick. Your argument about Luffy knowing Yamato's story in no way contradicts what I said, because you don't actually have a proper rebuttal for it which is not surprising in the least.
Keep coping nerd, Tama will be happy in Wano, Larrot is in the mud and Yamato joins.
Why it isn't surprising that a Yamato fan can only rationalize someone wanting a character to join the crew by basing it on fetishism 
It's so funny that you keep repeating that like it was some sort of make or break argument.
You realize that you're powerscalling a character that doesn't even have a name or even a silhouette?
Buggy just became an emperor, and you still act like a title is a determining indicator of strength…
Adding to that, it seems I must repeat myself as well. Strength was never a factor to determine if someone will join.
I'm guessing this means Tama is already part of the crew then.
Good.
Dude tried to say Tama could tame a beast strong enough to take on a titanic captain to justify Tama's position
Shit is beginning to become way worse than anything C4N has ever spewed.
Shit is beginning to become way worse than anything C4N has ever spewed.
You realize that you're powerscalling a character that doesn't even have a name or even a silhouette?
Buggy just became an emperor, and you still act like a title is a determining indicator of strength…
Adding to that, it seems I must repeat myself as well. Strength was never a factor to determine if someone will join.
Nami was already apart of the crew, of course he'd act differently 
Good.
I want a formal apology from you @dizzy2341 @CarrotForNakama @Carrota Guco @CarrotNakama @Berry Rich @Random_Kurozumi
and @HA001 for pussing out the way he did instead of taking the L
and @HA001 for pussing out the way he did instead of taking the L
You realize that you're powerscalling a character that doesn't even have a name or even a silhouette?
Buggy just became an emperor, and you still act like a title is a determining indicator of strength…
Buggy just became an emperor, and you still act like a title is a determining indicator of strength…
In the past it didn't matter because they were not a yonko crew or even close to big shots, bearing the level of danger that comes with it. Why didn't Ace take her along again?
Not shocked you didn't bother actually reading my point. He's fighting for these people specifically (Pedro who died for the cause, the other 3, 2 of which you didn't bother to respond to btw, he specifically promised to help).
Yes he knows about her situation, and? That has no bearing on the argument here. You're the one fucking coping my guy. Unlike carrot (which you mentionned in another comment), Yamato expressed her desire to join, AND it makes narrative sense with her connection to Ace and her (admittedly stupid and annoying) Oden Wank shtick. Your argument about Luffy knowing Yamato's story in no way contradicts what I said, because you don't actually have a proper rebuttal for it which is not surprising in the least.
Keep coping nerd, Tama will be happy in Wano, Larrot is in the mud and Yamato joins.
Yes he knows about her situation, and? That has no bearing on the argument here. You're the one fucking coping my guy. Unlike carrot (which you mentionned in another comment), Yamato expressed her desire to join, AND it makes narrative sense with her connection to Ace and her (admittedly stupid and annoying) Oden Wank shtick. Your argument about Luffy knowing Yamato's story in no way contradicts what I said, because you don't actually have a proper rebuttal for it which is not surprising in the least.
Keep coping nerd, Tama will be happy in Wano, Larrot is in the mud and Yamato joins.
Look here when Luffy finds out that Kaido beat and imprisoned Yamato
Cope however you want, but Luffy cares more about Tama, Momo, Kinemon, and Pedro than he does Yamato. That's why she wasn't mentioned
Doesn't matter what Yamato wants. Oda's choosing to write Luffy this way and it's really fucking obvious that Yamato is unimportant to both him and the story as a whole
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>Failing to mention Momonosuke and the Scabbards as the protectors of Wano because it doesn't fit your narrative
>Yamato totally not saying she wants to go out at Sea but stay behind and defend Wano
>Yamato totally not saying she wants to go out at Sea but stay behind and defend Wano
- Yamato's not the one writing this story. Her desires are irrelevant
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When Luffy says this, who do you think he's talking about here?
Do you think he's talking about Yamato?
No he's talking about Tama because she objectively matters more to him
Cope however you want, but Luffy cares more about Tama, Momo, Kinemon, and Pedro than he does Yamato. That's why she wasn't mentioned
Now you're just talking out of your ass, and we both know it. Yamato has been shown to be incredibly important narratively to the story. Her connection to Ace was really emphasized during and after her flashback, so was her connection to Oden as her role model, her attachment to his journal and her desire to live freely and go out at Sea. And when I say "Yamato wants it" by proxy it means Oda wrote it you muppet, she isn't real, so obviously he wrote her in a specific way for a reason. You using both the "Yamato said something and it doesn't matter" and "Oda wrote Luffy to not care about her" in the same sentence is honestly ridiculous, both of these were his narrative decisions, you still haven't shown me a reason to exclude Yamato from the SHs other than "hurr durr Loofey angy because Tama saaaaaaaaaad", he literally reacts like that every Island when someone is hurting, that's who Luffy is.
Because. He. Made. Her. That. Promise.
The WHOLE POINT of that statement is to show Luffy kept his side of his promise to ensure Tama would be able to eat to her heart's content in Wano by ridding it of its oppressors, which literally just feeds into the point that Tama is not leaving with the SHs, you haven't listed a reason why she'd want to or why it would make sense for her to leave, or even a statement from her where she even expresses the desire to leave Wano to go out at Sea. Your arguments mostly revolved around grasping at moments in the manga, while Yamato expressing her desire to leave and her connection to Ace, Luffy's brother, are fact. You're the one coping my guy, you behave exactly like every other Nakama theorist out there, but less funny than most of them.
Never thought I'd say this, but god I miss C4N...
The argument was never that Luffy cared about Yamato enough to fight for her. He didn't fight Kaido for Yamato because he didn't really know her. Just like Franky with Lucci. Just like Sanji with Krieg, where he fought just to get out of doing chores for a year with no thought of helping Sanji. Remember that Chopper had no real interactions with Luffy either, he just thought the transformations were cool. This has no bearing on her chances of joining unless you think Luffy had a deep connection with generic zombie tree number 3 and Kinemon's disembodied ass. Since Yamato is the one asking to join, she just has to be cool enough for Luffy to say it's good. Which is exactly what happened with Robin. And considering all their good interactions since he woke up, and the fact that she has a significantly stronger case than Robin did (Luffy never said he hated Yamato like he did to Robin and the rest of the crew already approves of her), I'd say it's a forgone conclusion.
Inversely, Luffy NOT getting pissed off when someone is mocked or hurt means that they DON'T have a special connection to him
The fact that she was mentioned when Luffy was getting his second wind to pump himself back up tells us that she's one of Luffy's primary motivations here while Yamato isn't
And guess who also has a connection to Ace?
Tama and Jimbei
Of course. Oda made her want to join so that he could do a twist later on when she stays in Wano
Yes because Luffy's opinion matters more than Yamato's
Here's one: Yamato is too irrelevant to join and this is made clear by the fact that she contributed fuck all to the plot or themes and wasn't mentioned by Luffy in 1045
Luffy cared more about Tama after knowing her for one chapter than he did about Yamato 60 chapters after meeting her
Not Yamato apparently. He wasnt all that upset about her being chained up and beaten for 20 years
And he didn't make a promise to Pedro but he still mentioned him because Pedro matters more to him than Yamato
Correct. Just like how he fought Arlong after Nami asked for help, fought Kuro because Usopp asked for help, and fought Moria largely because Brook needed help
Not necessarily. Franky was set up to stay in Water 7 with the Franky Family until the very end of the arc. Attentive readers could see this coming however, given Franky bonding with Robin and Usopp. And don't you think it's strange that Oda's going through so much trouble to show us Tama organically bonding with Luffy, Zoro, and Nami? A luxury which he isn't extending to Yamato by the way
Sure, because Yamato's the only character who fits that description, right?
Come on you surely you can come up with some better insults than that
I'm not convinced that Tama will join, but come on she's got a better shot than Yamato
Well you'll be here coping and seething with him when neither Yamato or Carrot join
Like, just admit that you only want Yamato to join because you're a coomer
The fact that she was mentioned when Luffy was getting his second wind to pump himself back up tells us that she's one of Luffy's primary motivations here while Yamato isn't
And guess who also has a connection to Ace?
Tama and Jimbei
Of course. Oda made her want to join so that he could do a twist later on when she stays in Wano
Yes because Luffy's opinion matters more than Yamato's
Here's one: Yamato is too irrelevant to join and this is made clear by the fact that she contributed fuck all to the plot or themes and wasn't mentioned by Luffy in 1045
Luffy cared more about Tama after knowing her for one chapter than he did about Yamato 60 chapters after meeting her
Not Yamato apparently. He wasnt all that upset about her being chained up and beaten for 20 years
And he didn't make a promise to Pedro but he still mentioned him because Pedro matters more to him than Yamato
Correct. Just like how he fought Arlong after Nami asked for help, fought Kuro because Usopp asked for help, and fought Moria largely because Brook needed help
Not necessarily. Franky was set up to stay in Water 7 with the Franky Family until the very end of the arc. Attentive readers could see this coming however, given Franky bonding with Robin and Usopp. And don't you think it's strange that Oda's going through so much trouble to show us Tama organically bonding with Luffy, Zoro, and Nami? A luxury which he isn't extending to Yamato by the way
Come on you surely you can come up with some better insults than that
I'm not convinced that Tama will join, but come on she's got a better shot than Yamato
Well you'll be here coping and seething with him when neither Yamato or Carrot join
Like, just admit that you only want Yamato to join because you're a coomer
If Oda can make Luffy like Tama enough to give her his hat only one chapter after meeting her, what was stopping him from having Luffy fight for his supposed future crewmate?
Franky actually bonded with Robin and Usopp in a meaningful way. Yamato on the other hand hasn't done that with any Strawhat, including Luffy
He also wanted Sanji to join his crew silly. He had been pestering him for a while about it actually
Did you forget the scene where Luffy protected Hiriluk's flag from Wapol?
And just like Yamato that tree didn't join the crew.
You realize you shot your argument in the foot here, right?
Besides it's not as though Luffy doesn't fight for his future crewmates. He does all the time actually
You're forgetting that Luffy isn't the one writing the story here
Bro Yamato's and Luffy interactions after he woke up are on the same level as WCI Carrot
And just like Carrot, Yamato isn't joining
Franky actually bonded with Robin and Usopp in a meaningful way. Yamato on the other hand hasn't done that with any Strawhat, including Luffy
He also wanted Sanji to join his crew silly. He had been pestering him for a while about it actually
Did you forget the scene where Luffy protected Hiriluk's flag from Wapol?
And just like Yamato that tree didn't join the crew.
You realize you shot your argument in the foot here, right?
Besides it's not as though Luffy doesn't fight for his future crewmates. He does all the time actually
You're forgetting that Luffy isn't the one writing the story here
Bro Yamato's and Luffy interactions after he woke up are on the same level as WCI Carrot
And just like Carrot, Yamato isn't joining
What makes me doubt Yamato chances the most is how much her character feels detached from the emotional core of the story. Even when Luffy wasn't fighting for those characters you mentioned, their stories were deeply connected to the emotional payoff/climax of the arc in which they joined. Yamato's struggles are never lingered on or given any attention by the narrative. The contrast with Tama is jarring.
The only real exception is Robin, but she got that afterwords in ennies lobby. So unless you believe Yamato will get an emotional character arc in a future arc, you must agree that she doesn't seem to be written as a crew member normally is. The fact that Oda could have had that with luffy knowing about how much Yamato had suffered or with Yamato witnessing Kaido's defeat, but choose not to, feels really dissonant with her then saying she'll join.
The only real exception is Robin, but she got that afterwords in ennies lobby. So unless you believe Yamato will get an emotional character arc in a future arc, you must agree that she doesn't seem to be written as a crew member normally is. The fact that Oda could have had that with luffy knowing about how much Yamato had suffered or with Yamato witnessing Kaido's defeat, but choose not to, feels really dissonant with her then saying she'll join.
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