[FNZ] Salem of Lies Throne of lies: The battle for the Throne

[Reborn]

Yes she is...

Then nana is evil king because only evil king has ability to invest


Good king doesn't

 

[Zolo]

Then nana is evil king because only evil king has ability to invest


Good king doesn't

Nice... I wanted to hunt i dies but seems like I got someone even more worthy

 

[Ratchet]

She voted Pero first and was the one to provide her reasons first as well iirc. Also, she made this post:

Which I think was a nice call out against Pero. She parroted the least from what I can see. She looks slightly more townie than Light because of this.

Sure, we can get claims out of them both, I don't mind that.

I see. Well do remember that she's won several MVP's in this format, especially as Scum. She's pretty good and probably not a player who should get a pass for doing the bare minimum. Nevertheless, I'll take this on board.

 

[Zolo]

Vote lynch nana

 

[Reborn]

NAI means "Not Alignment Indicative". So you asking me why I think only Town could make that post is pointless, because I explicitly do not think that. My issue is that you've taken something I consider to be NAI, and apparently, so do you, and attempted to skew it towards being scummy on the basis if establishing a nefarious motive behind it, without ever actually demonstrating why that motive is more like to be in play than altruistic intentions.

You didn't get my point.


I do agree that it's not alignement indicative but that doesn't mean scum can't pull that which brings me to the point you raised

"you think I sub into a game as Scum and then spend an hour reading and writing that up just to come across as Townie, then you're not really thinking at all."

Why won't you as scum can pull this?

 

[Reborn]

Nice... I wanted to hunt i dies but seems like I got someone even more worthy

Vote Lynch Nana

 

[Dragomir]

She is investigative??



@Dragomir if I am right then only evil king has ability to invest and not the good king right?

That is correct, but relax, this doesn't mean Nana is scum. The King is a special class. Not investigative. The evil king having an investigative ability doesn't mean they'll show up as investigative. Zolo seems to be the princess. When that role investigative s someone, they get two class types of which one is the target's true class.

The king shows up as special and investigative to princess results.

@Zolo why did you investigate Nana? The results you were going to receive is obvious. You got no new information.

 

[Ratchet]

You didn't get my point.


I do agree that it's not alignement indicative but that doesn't mean scum can't pull that which brings me to the point you raised

"you think I sub into a game as Scum and then spend an hour reading and writing that up just to come across as Townie, then you're not really thinking at all."

Why won't you as scum can pull this?

In *this* game? It's probably unlikely. My point is it should, at the very least, earn me the benefit of the doubt. And of you agree that it isn't alignment indicative, why did you originally frame it as me trying to appeal to Townies via LAMIST?

 

[Ratchet]

Vote Lynch Nana

Why would we ever vote Nana here without getting a full claim from Zolo?

 

[Ratchet]

In *this* game? It's probably unlikely. My point is it should, at the very least, earn me the benefit of the doubt. And of you agree that it isn't alignment indicative, why did you originally frame it as me trying to appeal to Townies via LAMIST?

By this I mean, given in that one post alone I've probably put more time into the game than half the player list, I shouldn't really be getting it spun nefariously on that basis alone. While it's NAI, the time investment should make my standing better than the average, which is good enough for now.

 

[Dragomir]

Nana is not scum for the reasons you think she is. Y'all having a big misunderstanding over these results.

 

[Reborn]

That is correct, but relax, this doesn't mean Nana is scum. The King is a special class. Not investigative. The evil king having an investigative ability doesn't mean they'll show up as investigative. Zolo seems to be the princess. When that role investigative s someone, they get two class types of which one is the target's true class.

The king shows up as special and investigative to princess results.

@Zolo why did you investigate Nana? The results you were going to receive is obvious. You got no new information.

I know king is special class but point is will good king come as someone who can invest when good king doesn't even has such ability?

Why would we ever vote Nana here without getting a full claim from Zolo?

He came out in open without any pressure about result on someone. He is hinting a role.

What we need to do is put some pressure on nana.


Btw, hime hinted being the princess right?

 

[Dragomir]

I see. Well do remember that she's won several MVP's in this format, especially as Scum. She's pretty good and probably not a player who should get a pass for doing the bare minimum. Nevertheless, I'll take this on board.

Yeah, she's great at ToL and ToS. She's great as scum in general. I'm not gonna underestimate her. I'm leaning to her being scum rn at around 65% certainty. Light, on the other hand, is pushing it to 90% for me.

 

[Reborn]

In *this* game? It's probably unlikely. My point is it should, at the very least, earn me the benefit of the doubt. And of you agree that it isn't alignment indicative, why did you originally frame it as me trying to appeal to Townies via LAMIST?

Oh I did say "impressive efforts" in my first post itself

You can say I have some doubts but I didn't frame you or anything. I just wanted to see your thoughts process and without questioning you how can I learn of your thought process

 

[Dragomir]

I know king is special class but point is will good king come as someone who can invest when good king doesn't even has such ability?

What you need to understand is that the king will show up as special/investigative to princess results. It doesn't matter if they're the good king or evil king. Those are the princess results for the king.

 

[Reborn]

What you need to understand is that the king will show up as special/investigative to princess results. It doesn't matter if they're the good king or evil king. Those are the princess results for the king.

Wow


Anyway I wanna put some pressure on Nana.


Also, if I remember well then hime hinted being princess but zolo result show he is princess.

 

[Dragomir]

Wow


Anyway I wanna put some pressure on Nana.


Also, if I remember well then hime hinted being princess but zolo result show he is princess.

Wdym wow?

Why do you want to do that? What makes you think she's scum?

I don't remember Hime hinting princess.

 

[Reborn]

Wdym wow?

Why do you want to do that? What makes you think she's scum?

I don't remember Hime hinting princess.

Hmmm


Ratchet said that hime hinted being princess or something like that

And ekko liked that post and then quoted it to say "was it you?".

And, ekko even said that he belives hime is town

So I thought hime hinted being princess but there is nothing like that in her post

 

[Nana]

Nice... I wanted to hunt i dies but seems like I got someone even more worthy

what the hell u even talking about? 💀

What you need to understand is that the king will show up as special/investigative to princess results. It doesn't matter if they're the good king or evil king. Those are the princess results for the king.

That's a really dumb move then to invest a king who was just announced for everyone to see 💀💀

Reborn sure as hell jumped too fast without questioning any shit

 

[Ratchet]

Btw, hime hinted being the princess right?

No, I thought she could, plausibly, be the Princess. Ekko claims to have mechanics indicating that she's Town, so I duly retire my observation.

Yeah, she's great at ToL and ToS. She's great as scum in general. I'm not gonna underestimate her. I'm leaning to her being scum rn at around 65% certainty. Light, on the other hand, is pushing it to 90% for me.

Yes, that's fair. My impression was, even if she was one of the early Pero voters, the reasoning she gave wasn't anything new, but I am willing to compromise here. Just know that if Light does end up being Town the pressure on your slot will ramp up. You back yourself, ya?

You can say I have some doubts but I didn't frame you or anything. I just wanted to see your thoughts process and without questioning you how can I learn of your thought process

Well, you can learn my thought process by reading my posts, I tend to be fairly verbose when it comes to explaining how I arrived at various conclusions. My issue Reborn is that your position, that I could be pulling a case of LAMIST (Look At Me I'm So Townie - trying to make town-sided that don't actually hold much consequence for Scum to make) came entirely from nowhere, and since then you haven't really established consistency within this position either. You don't feel like you're responding to me to figure out my alignment.