Questions & Mysteries What Buggy did to become a Yonko?

Are Buggy's new crew / underlings, stronger than 3billion Kid or Law?

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#22
Luffy is already massively undervalued for fake dramatic tension/ government trying to quietly kill him quickly.
They viewed Luffy as a greater threat than Kaidou, and now he beat Kaidou even in a fight where he was growing (and so nerfed) for most of the fight.
 
#23
Wild take: Buggy devil fruit is a mythical zoan god fruit. Possibly god of weather/thunder/lightning. He unconsciously used it during Ed war to defeat Shiki and then mistakenly activated it at loguetown when he was about to behead luffy.

Buggy’s df is literally the opposite of luffy’s. Luffy is immune to blunt hits but can be cut. Buggy cant be cut but is affected by blunt hits.
 
#24
Now I will list what Blackbeard and Luffy needed to do to become a Yonko:

The list for what Blackbeard needed to do to become a Yonko:

(The world don't know Blackbeard doesn't sleep, or wounded Shanks's eye or killed 4th division commander Thatch, or that destroyed Drum Island, so it doesn't count)

1- Blackbeard become a Shichibukai by capturing 550 million bounty Prime Ace (Pre-prime Ace stalemated with Jinbe and Base Yamato, and burned WB's hand) by overpowering Ace's Island Size Flame Emperor, (which hyped Sabo vs. 2 Admirals).



2- Then Blackbeard invades Impel Down, easily defeats the guards, one-shotted 1000 men Bazooka squad, and puts Impel Down Warden Magellan into coma, and comes to Marineford without any scratch. (everyone knew Blackbeard did this, Big mom's quote proves this).




3- Blackbeard shows people that he made the most powerful Impel Down escapees his underlings, and even Shiryu, who is Magellan's equal. And declares in the marineford battle that he is no longer a Shichibukai in front of Fleet Admiral and other Admirals.




4- Blackbeard then kills Whitebeard (everyone knows BB killed WB which is why Bonney and Weevil blames Blackbeard, and wants revenge), and then BB steals Whitebeard's DF ability becomes the first man in history who can use 2 DF powers successfully.







5- Blackbeard then states he will sink Marineford island, and fought with Fleet Admiral Sengoku, later Hero Garp joined him, and they fought them + half of all Marineford forces (other half forces was fighting WB pirates), Blackbeard sends Tsunami from Marineford Island to Sabaody Island, and damaged Sengoku and Garp (they were covered in bandages after the battle).




6- Around their way, Supernova Jewelry Bonney attacks them, they easily captured Bonney.


7- Blackbeard conquers Whitebeard's new world territories easily according to Jinbe.


8- Then Blackbeard easily defeats the remnants of Whitebeard pirates, who were Marco, Jozu, Vista, Izo, Rakuyo and the rest of the commanders.


Only after all of these, they made Blackbeard a Yonko.

(Blackbeard also invaded Revolutionary headquarters, Baltigo and attack the island while Dragon and Sabo was on it, as well as BB made Aokiji his underling, however these were after Blackbeard become a Yonko, not before, so it doesn't count)

The list for what Luffy needed to do to become a Yonko:

1- Luffy defeats Shichibukai Crocodile, Shichibukai Moria and Strongest CP9 agent Lucci before the time-skip. (although they covered Luffy's actions in Alabasta they said Marines defeated Crocodile, and hided Shichibukai Moria's defeat, the world only know about CP9 and Ennies Lobby incident).

2- After the time skip, Luffy defeats Shichibukai Doflamingo, then they had a short clash with Admiral Fujitora. Because of his actions, the government decide to demolish the Shichibukai system, and Fujitora wasn't allowed to enter any Marine base until he brings Luffy and Law's heads.


3- Luffy then defeats Yonko commanders Cracker and Katakuri, escapes with saving Sanji. They declared Luffy as the Fifth Emperor, a new Yonko.


4- Luffy then awakens Joy Boy, defeats Yonko Kaido, and saves Wano. His wanted poster shows that Luffy is Joy Boy. Then they finally declared Luffy as fully fledged one of the Yonko.



We also know Law and Kid, despite defeating Yonko Big Mom together, and had 3 billion bounties each, couldn't become a Yonko.



So Buggy either did something bigger than defeating %50 of Big Mom (Law's and Kid's feat), or extremely powerful people, who are stronger than Law or Kid (not together, individually) joined Buggy, so Buggy's crew total bounty surpassed even Law's and Kid's 3 billion.


My idea is basically Buggy managed to make 2 previous Shichibukai members join him, and then proceed to making Elbaf his territory.

Hmm some idea dump

- Elbaf arc. It's Buggy's territory since he he had earned Elbaf (their worshipped god, called "Eternal King") metaphorical blessing, through a specific trial in Elbaf kingdom. Their deceased King, Odin, designed the trial, but Buggy and his crew apparently get the success, something that hasn't been done since ever. Included in the rituals is also combat test, which Buggy and his crew breezed through...since apparently in Buggy's crew there is Edward Weevil who joined due to Buggy's deception.

- Loki's info network detected about Sabo's involvement in Cobra's death. Loki doesn't trust The Strawhats since Cobra is their friend while Luffy, the captain, is the lil bro of Sabo. Sanji wants to clear Luffy's name. Sanji vs Loki.

- At the same time Zoro barges in an Elbaf strategic meeting in which Buggy also participates. Zoro tells Buggy to help clear Luffy's name.

- Buggy says to Zoro that if Zoro wants help, he must defeat a certain crew member of Buggy who waits for him in the Elbaf tradition of Fighting Tournament.

- Zoro goes to the tournament, slashes and dices, arrives in the final. Apparently, a certain crew member of Buggy is a certain Dracule Mihawk.

- Mihawk joined Buggy as a temporary crew, thanks to Shanks who trolled Mihawk to have some comrades for once. Mihawk asked why not Shanks offered to join Red Hair Pirates instead? Shanks trolled Mihawk even more, taunting Mihawk's lack of confidence in social life and getting to know strangers, instead of being in a comfort zone of having Shanks as his comrade.

- apparently this is Shanks' deception since Shanks want to make both Mihawk and Elbaf a preserved hidden card to anticipate the final war against Imu, just in case Shanks die in the hands of Blackbeard.
 
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VisualKei

#25
Because Buggy-sama is Oda's favorite and when he get serious he could split atom and make a nuke because he's the bombastic clown
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#28
Luffy is already massively undervalued for fake dramatic tension/ government trying to quietly kill him quickly.
They viewed Luffy as a greater threat than Kaidou, and now he beat Kaidou even in a fight where he was growing (and so nerfed) for most of the fight.
Man the past couple chaps have been rough for you eh? Luffy is gonna surpass Kaidou sooner or later anyway, no need to worry.
 
#29
Man the past couple chaps have been rough for you eh? Luffy is gonna surpass Kaidou sooner or later anyway, no need to worry.
What do you mean lol?
King's fake hype "invulnerability" getting no diffed was great last chapter, and the current chapter was great hype for the CoC specialist agenda, and Luffy's confident smile and casual attitude supports him>> greenbull.
 
#31
Magellan the BB oneshotter joined his crew.
Magellan is underrated.He got fired from his job,not fair.
Post automatically merged:

Now I will list what Blackbeard and Luffy needed to do to become a Yonko:

The list for what Blackbeard needed to do to become a Yonko:

(The world don't know Blackbeard doesn't sleep, or wounded Shanks's eye or killed 4th division commander Thatch, or that destroyed Drum Island, so it doesn't count)

1- Blackbeard become a Shichibukai by capturing 550 million bounty Prime Ace (Pre-prime Ace stalemated with Jinbe and Base Yamato, and burned WB's hand) by overpowering Ace's Island Size Flame Emperor, (which hyped Sabo vs. 2 Admirals).



2- Then Blackbeard invades Impel Down, easily defeats the guards, one-shotted 1000 men Bazooka squad, and puts Impel Down Warden Magellan into coma, and comes to Marineford without any scratch. (everyone knew Blackbeard did this, Big mom's quote proves this).




3- Blackbeard shows people that he made the most powerful Impel Down escapees his underlings, and even Shiryu, who is Magellan's equal. And declares in the marineford battle that he is no longer a Shichibukai in front of Fleet Admiral and other Admirals.




4- Blackbeard then kills Whitebeard (everyone knows BB killed WB which is why Bonney and Weevil blames Blackbeard, and wants revenge), and then BB steals Whitebeard's DF ability becomes the first man in history who can use 2 DF powers successfully.







5- Blackbeard then states he will sink Marineford island, and fought with Fleet Admiral Sengoku, later Hero Garp joined him, and they fought them + half of all Marineford forces (other half forces was fighting WB pirates), Blackbeard sends Tsunami from Marineford Island to Sabaody Island, and damaged Sengoku and Garp (they were covered in bandages after the battle).




6- Around their way, Supernova Jewelry Bonney attacks them, they easily captured Bonney.


7- Blackbeard conquers Whitebeard's new world territories easily according to Jinbe.


8- Then Blackbeard easily defeats the remnants of Whitebeard pirates, who were Marco, Jozu, Vista, Izo, Rakuyo and the rest of the commanders.


Only after all of these, they made Blackbeard a Yonko.

(Blackbeard also invaded Revolutionary headquarters, Baltigo and attack the island while Dragon and Sabo was on it, as well as BB made Aokiji his underling, however these were after Blackbeard become a Yonko, not before, so it doesn't count)

The list for what Luffy needed to do to become a Yonko:

1- Luffy defeats Shichibukai Crocodile, Shichibukai Moria and Strongest CP9 agent Lucci before the time-skip. (although they covered Luffy's actions in Alabasta they said Marines defeated Crocodile, and hided Shichibukai Moria's defeat, the world only know about CP9 and Ennies Lobby incident).

2- After the time skip, Luffy defeats Shichibukai Doflamingo, then they had a short clash with Admiral Fujitora. Because of his actions, the government decide to demolish the Shichibukai system, and Fujitora wasn't allowed to enter any Marine base until he brings Luffy and Law's heads.


3- Luffy then defeats Yonko commanders Cracker and Katakuri, escapes with saving Sanji. They declared Luffy as the Fifth Emperor, a new Yonko.


4- Luffy then awakens Joy Boy, defeats Yonko Kaido, and saves Wano. His wanted poster shows that Luffy is Joy Boy. Then they finally declared Luffy as fully fledged one of the Yonko.



We also know Law and Kid, despite defeating Yonko Big Mom together, and had 3 billion bounties each, couldn't become a Yonko.



So Buggy either did something bigger than defeating %50 of Big Mom (Law's and Kid's feat), or extremely powerful people, who are stronger than Law or Kid (not together, individually) joined Buggy, so Buggy's crew total bounty surpassed even Law's and Kid's 3 billion.


Buggy went after captain john treasure and found an ancient weapon or he somehow got Elbaf to join him.
 
#38
Think u guys are overthinking about it, its just the Buggy gag of he falling upwards.

People need to remember that besides Adventure and Action, the third genre of OP is Comedy. OP isnt a edgylord manga that try to look overly serious.


But if u want to see it from a in world perspective, just look at it as how a normal citzen of OP world would see Buggy.

-Former member of Roger Pirates
-"Brother" relation with Shanks
-Mastermind behind the escape of hundreds of prisioners from Impel Down
-Take part in Marineford War
-Allied with WB, survived the Admirals and Mihawk and helped SH escape
-Take command over the former prisioners, a lot of them with over 100m bounties
-Become a Warlord
-Control over some territories in the NW
-Become a big shot in the Underworld
-Take over the void left by Doffy in the Underworld
-Survive the abolition of the Warlords

We the reader know that most of those things arent really wht happend, but the average OP citzen dont know it.

I've been saying since Doffy was defeated that Buggy and Luffy were the biggest Pirates besides the Emperors, as they seemed to be the only ones with territories, fleets and influence on the NW.
 
#40
Think u guys are overthinking about it, its just the Buggy gag of he falling upwards.

People need to remember that besides Adventure and Action, the third genre of OP is Comedy. OP isnt a edgylord manga that try to look overly serious.


But if u want to see it from a in world perspective, just look at it as how a normal citzen of OP world would see Buggy.

-Former member of Roger Pirates
-"Brother" relation with Shanks
-Mastermind behind the escape of hundreds of prisioners from Impel Down
-Take part in Marineford War
-Allied with WB, survived the Admirals and Mihawk and helped SH escape
-Take command over the former prisioners, a lot of them with over 100m bounties
-Become a Warlord
-Control over some territories in the NW
-Become a big shot in the Underworld
-Take over the void left by Doffy in the Underworld
-Survive the abolition of the Warlords

We the reader know that most of those things arent really wht happend, but the average OP citzen dont know it.

I've been saying since Doffy was defeated that Buggy and Luffy were the biggest Pirates besides the Emperors, as they seemed to be the only ones with territories, fleets and influence on the NW.
Buggy had better military force than Doffy actually
Plus adding more fighters again.

It make senses he's Yonko if you factor all these stuff he has while Kid and Law are individually stronger than Buggy
 
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