Spoiler One Piece Film "RED" Spoiler Discussion Thread.

Film Red is probably 100% canon tbh. If you look at the map in the latest chapter, the SHs traveling southeast to get to the next island means that they aren’t progressing any further into the NW since the next island is directly above Wano. So there’s plenty of room for it to fit into the story
Everything that happens in this movie is non-canon lmao. How is it cope to say it isn't?
 
Well if that's true then damn.

That solidifies the Good World Noble Shanks vs Bad D. Family Teach speculation.
Eh, wouldnt be so sure he's "good" on that level, considering the Gorosei didn't intend to kill him like they did Cobra (or if they even could, but their meeting was amicable).

The vol 4 Billion book implies he has his own agenda for the New Age.
 
Film Red is probably 100% canon tbh. If you look at the map in the latest chapter, the SHs traveling southeast to get to the next island means that they aren’t progressing any further into the NW since the next island is directly above Wano. So there’s plenty of room for it to fit into the story
Every time a movie comes out people start speculating if they are canon and they never are:zosleepy:
 
1. introduced later
I don't really do the introduced later thing, akainu was technically introduced before kizaru.
3. the marines are a stronger force now than ever, and seeing how Fuji is not near Akainu/Aokiji level, Gb should at least be ~ Aokiji
Is fuji not on the level of akainu/kiji we don't know, GB seems to be paired up with sanji a lot.
That might still be the case anyway, Fujitora has a more solid character fit of a high position, but in overall strength Gb might still be better. This Shanks haki bs might have overcomplicated things that's all.
This is fair, but I don't think its complicated, shanks was in close range with kizaru and fuji, while gb freaked out though he was exaggerating a lot.
 
Events of a film have nothing to do with personal abilities or obligatory facts of canon.

The actual events aren't canon, but nobody is arguing that abilities aren't either.
The relationship of Uta and Shanks plus Shanks family will be canon material even though something this important should be reserved for the manga
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Shanks feat against Kizaru is the same of Old Rayleigh lmao
 
Oda is a perfect machine? I just found out.
Oda answers SBS, he doesn't write them.
According to your logic origin, height, blood type, haki types, birthdays and rewards are not canon for being revealed mostly in VC no? The level of ridiculousness they have to go to in order to denigrate Mihawk is not normal.
Lol, height, blood type are irrelevant to the story. Besides, when did I say VC is complete shit. VC is relevant when it doesn't contradict manga events. However, it is null and void the moment it contradicts manga evidence. VC are born from the manga, not the other way around.

So according to you, Zoro didn't have CoC because VC states that he has only two haki variants. And chapter 1035 is non canon because VC didn't say Zoro has CoC. Hope other Zoro fans accept you.

And irony is thinking that VC is 'perfect' when it is written by somw human being just like author while thinking that original manga written by author himself is non canon than VC.

This is the level of ridiculousness that 100% brain users going to gaslight Mihawk is even more abnormal.
 
It's always the same thing, people did the same with Strong World, Z, Gold and Stampede, treating them as if they're canon.
Crazy that people don't understand that only the supplemental books are. Vol 0, 1000, 777, 10089, and 4 Billion all have canon information on the main villains/characters of the last 5 films that Oda creatively was a part of. The villains + Shanks' pasts and abilities are effectively canon, but the present films are not.

And yes, Z, Tesoro and Bullet all have not been directly referenced in the story, but they all did things or were a part of canon events:

- Zephyr trained many past Marines and apparently lost his arm to a Shichibukai (possibly Weevil or Mihawk, not sure). A "certain marine scientist" gave him his arm and the newer Pacifistas.

- Tesoro was a CD slave who escaped when Fisher Tiger released everyone and he became a rival Underworld leader to Doflamingo

- Bullet was on Roger's ship and a former Level 6 inmate when BB broke people out.

Just like Chapter 0 being canon and Shanks finding Uta. These things can be treated as canon, but their film events aren't. That's all.
 
The infos & abilities of RHP are canon
  • Shanks having CoO counter, fs and also burning attacks...
  • Yassop CoO range
  • Benn CoA & skills
  • Roo skills and the rest of RHP
  • Shanks past : bounty ,noble lineage ,...

Movie feats aren't canon

we know Shanks CoC can affect admirals in the manga, we know yassop CoO will be top.
Oh yeah Katakuri's range is canon too.
 
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Events of a film have nothing to do with personal abilities or obligatory facts of canon.

The actual events aren't canon, but nobody is arguing that abilities aren't either.
With how much time Oda has spent on this movie, don’t be surprised if he makes it fully canon. I don’t remember Oda personally advertising hyping up any of the other movies this much, and he also included a lot of details that have to be canon (Shanks backstory, RHP abilities, BM being alive, etc). Oda already made Uta canon, and as far as I’m aware, there’s nothing that makes the movie impossible to fit into the timeline
 
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